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Sure there are shades of grey. But in evolution and cooperation or competition it is black and white. We may flip from one to the other rapidly in some cases but we can only do one or the other. I see no grey in this. I am asking this to show believers that they cannot help but do evil and that if ...

It is entirely possible to avoid doing evil simply because the notion or definition of what is evil is entirely subjective. That is to say that there is no universally definitive list available which categorizes the totality of human behaviour into good and evil; and furthermore, when those cultura...

It works better if you imagine yourself living where there is no social safety net. What do you mean? Like third world country? [confused2] Treat people like animals and they'll work like animals... I was not referring to that at all. What I was trying to get across is that where there is no social...

First of all I think this thread is kind of messed. None of those links you posted at the beginning works the way it was intended I believe. A person will feel they are doing evil as long as that person fails to adapt to their environment and body. Don Juan says the universe tests us and the only w...

Of course I did. I just tried to make it very simple. I'd rather die out than "compete" if it would be considered "evil" to destroy the other person or being. But I take it that you are not talking about just life and death. To use your example, I don't see competing for a job a...

Did you even read the O P friend? As an evolving creature, do you not have to both compete or cooperate at all times and if you let the others win all the times you compete, will you not die out? Think in terms of your job and how you competed for it. You won out over others and thus gained resource...

Can you help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you? And if you cannot, why would God punish you? Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by putting forward their free will argument and placing all the blame on mankind. That usually sounds like ----God gave us fre...

Like an artist whose personality is present in his work, traces of the Divine can be seen in Its work. The question is what is Its work? Certainly not nature as we live in it. For every flower that unfolds beauty there's a maggot which, after climbing into the ear of a spring lamb, eats away at its...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV8BNgcBnq8 SImple Messiah Complex: Signs of the Times....? Is this God's perfect work? It kind of links symbology to pyramids and obelisks and stuff. The star of david comes from snake scales? Any thoughts? sorry i am a n00b [yay] A messiah is as a messiah does. I se...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell "The New Testament maintains a distinction between Sheol, the common "place of the dead", and the eternal destiny of those condemned at the Final Judgment, variously described as Gehenna, "the outer darkness," or a lake of eter...

The problem is the huge contradiction between the way god is described in the new testament and the way he acts in the old testament. OT god is jealous and angry and spiteful, NT god is all loving and caring and and protecting and all that. They're almost polar opposites. The problem started when C...

Where have you read up on a benevolent God? Certainly not the bible God. Regards DL The benevolence of God is all throughout the New Testament: "God is love."--1 John 4:16. Thats merely one example - there are hundreds of cases where God is said to be love, light, peace, etc. If God is in...

I dont follow scripture to in depthly, but to understand perfect is that nothing is innately evil (seriously give me anything I'll ninja it to having good qualities, because im bad ass like that), but get attributed as such by humans. Good and evil are just words created by humans and perfection ex...

This question is proven false through scripture above, namely 'Mat 7;18 "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."' If a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit, then all things cannot be created perfect, unless you are saying that c...

We did get off a bit.

Did you not care to have a go at the question of your birth?

Regards
DL

Yes. I see you like to argue for the sake of argument. Not my style. I argue to show MPOV and to see if it can be refuted. If not, or if it is, I expect and or give acknowledgment. We are going all over the map though. Too many issues will just confuse. Please give an answer to the question of your ...

I am sorry that I could not get the program here to accept the quote function or stop it from bouncing all over the place or not accepting my first post to you. I will make this one more readable. “Sorry about this, but I disagreed with just about everything you just posted... Whoever said anything ...

You are correct. I was in more of a Gnostic Christian mode than a Gnostic one. The O P was speaking only of the bible God and not of the Gnostic view. Remembering that Gnostic did not take their scriptures any more literally than the older Christian sects, let me restart. To me, the demiurge is just...

When you say "Father of God" you're basicly refering to the actual creator God's opinion of the demiurge, right? In that case, i'd have to say that this mighty actual creator would be incapable of both pride and shame. If you veto that, then I think the actual creator would be pretty... p...

I'm also aware of gnosticism beliefs that there is an evil material god of the earth, and a higher power god of the spirit world. The suffering on earth right now is a good example of this. Bible stories are not. That being said, do you support the beliefs of riding the world of it's materialistic ...

I would be curious what other books you are using, besides the Bible in support of your view on Gnostic Christianity. I have read many other Words from the various religions but since 95% of who is around where I go, I mostly stick to the Christian Bible. To me, they are all just books of wisdom. N...

On growing up to be, as God says, one of us. Gen. 3 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, If God were here, he would tell you that if you do not do as shown belowe and conquer God, you will never have an apotheosis and begin to mirror his thinking. That is the only way to...

We'll play god for a second. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you were god? Any God who wants relevance must be here and now. God is not. he is hiding in the bush. I mean, if we want to talk about morality, you could just make a world where evil could never happen. If evil cannot happ...

God or not. If not moral then he is garbage.

I am not sure where you wish to go from here.

Regards
DL

Well.... I more or less believe as you do I suppose. I like to think that religion was created to justify the moral standings of man. Religion gives meaning to the words good and evil. I believe in the Creator. No religious deity. The actions which are "evil" are labeled so because they c...