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If a person does his or her homework, they'll find interlocking relationships between CIA MK-ULTRA, NAZI and NEO NAZI underground fascists, intelligence groups, both governmental and private, international pedophile/snuff rings that traffic in little boys and girls all the way down to 3 years of age, blackmail using little brutally tortured children on various members of police at the state, local and federal level, judges and congress people also. Mind control technology extremely advanced, and also very powerful and advanced secret technology that can kill without a trace..........and often connected to the Knights of Malta, Jesuits and Opus Dei, the last being the most brutal and perverse of the child rapists/torturers/killers.......all of this being covered up at the very highest levels of all governments.

Read the material on the following site:
http://www.whale.to/c/reality6.html

Read about what Dr Steven Greer of the DISCLOSURE PROJECT has found out about secret technology, aliens, mind-control and international companies with private INTELL who control these types of technology.

Read about Lt Col Michael Aquino and the Wewelsberg Castle and the NAZI SS who had Satanic rituals held there and how Aquino received a purported communique from Satan/SET called COMING FORTH BY NIGHT and his links to pedophilia, US INTELL and MInd-control, and his connections to THE FRANKLIN COVER-UP by John deCamp.

Read about how Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), now called Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is used to create total Mind-controlled children with rape, torture, magical ceremonies, hypnosis, electroshock, drugs, and torture to eventually use them for prostitution, blackmail, drug-running, assassination, and other operations where they have no conscious memory afterwards and even have a secret "alter" identity that commits suicide if caught "in the act".

Read about FBI and DEA cover-ups and involvement with international drugs and arms dealers, narco-terrorists and massive amounts of money made in secret operations that are rarely revealed.

Understand the reasons and cover-ups behaind the Kennedy assassinations, Dr Martin Luther King, John Lennon and others the FBI and the covert fascists wanted eliminated, besides the massive cover-up described by John deCamp in the FRANKLIN COVER-UP which describes a nationwide Satanic human sacrifice/pedophilic, mind-control, snuff and blackmail operation all the way up to the then President.

Then, realize how the same kinds of activities are going on all over the globe, and the links to the Catholic Church and how long pedophilia, secrecy and mind-control has been within the Catholic Church for possibly centuries, and you can see the parts of a vast puzzle coming together.
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What you're talking about above is a worldwide conspiracy towards the foundation of the New World Order and creation and empowerment of the New Atlantis, collectively perpetuated by the Illuminati. If you think about it, they've already succeeded, and their next step is the One World Order. Of course, they've been associated with demonology by conspiracy theorists as well. Some say that the leaders collect annually at the Bohemian Grove.

If you think of earth as an MMORPG, it becomes quite obvious that at some point or the other there will be a guild of players stronger than and dictating the actions of all the rest.

There's nothing new here.

Oh and aliens don't exist - at least in the they-come-from-another-planet form. You'll want to consider the Fermi Paradox. Keep in mind that mind-control itself includes creation of conspiracies palatable by the general public.
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MAZOHIR, what do you think about Teal Scott's story of Satanic ritual abuse?
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As someone who has studied satanism for over 20 years. I disagree with the statements done in this thread.

From my experience satanists can't even agree on their own agenda. Pulling of something as an international 'take over the world' agenda would simply be impossible with satanists.

You need god-fearing people to do something like that.
If NWO or Illuminati existed, they would surely be christian. Christianity is the biggest religion on earth. It would be the easiest way to manipulate people using christianity then using the exact opposite that would only scare people off.

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Desecrated wrote:As someone who has studied satanism for over 20 years. I disagree with the statements done in this thread.

From my experience satanists can't even agree on their own agenda. Pulling of something as an international 'take over the world' agenda would simply be impossible with satanists.

You need god-fearing people to do something like that.
If NWO or Illuminati existed, they would surely be christian. Christianity is the biggest religion on earth. It would be the easiest way to manipulate people using christianity then using the exact opposite that would only scare people off.
The Illuminati are in fact Christian.. although many a conspiracy theory say they're the Jews.

Anyway, when discussing these things, remember to keep it civil or I'll be forced to lock the thread.
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First of all as a guy who is really up to these kind of things, many people dont really understand what is the real illuminati. Illuminati was created in Bavaria, Germany( aaaahh Deutschland, I love Deutschland) in respone to organize a scientific organization against the pope and the church who were being dominant over everything. And they were ATHEISTS. Their real logo was Mithra's Owl (It sybolized knowledge since Owls can see in night) not a one eyed creepy triangle. In addition their being atheists means not only they dont believe in god but also they dont believe in demons! And believe me people may think freemasons are controling this world but actually freemasons dont really work together. They are only obidient to their lodge which means If they dont recognize any other lodge then the freemasons in these lodges wont have any masonic affilaction. And again one point to remeber, economy doesnt have a single value against life threating. Neither Illuminati nor freemasons control the world. If freemasons were that powerful their lodges wouldnt be turned into ruins by american citizens who thought Freemasons were anti-christ.

Ps. These conciparcies actually date back to first world war. When a german guy thought Germany lost the first world war becouse of Jews and Freemasons. Plus If you have read Mein Kampf you can see Adolf Hitler himself is really effected by that guys theory. He also states that Jews and freemasons caused them to lose the first world war. Also Benito Mussolini thought the same, since freemasonry is originated in England he thought freemasons in Italy would be English spies and leak strategical information. Ps. Benito Mussolini killed those freemasons in Italy and only few were able to run away. Which brings to my question If freemasons are that powerful why did they let Hitler and Mussolini come in power and didnt kill them in the first place? Dont believe in these kind of idiotic theories and use your neurons for something useful. The thought that Jews and Freemasons or İlluminati rules the world dates back to facist regimes and facist people. So by supporting these kind of theories you are also supporting those facist idiots.
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Atzmuth wrote:Their real logo was Mithra's Owl (It sybolized knowledge since Owls can see in night) not a one eyed creepy triangle. In addition their being atheists means not only they dont believe in god but also they dont believe in demons!
Did someone say owls?

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This doesnt proof that illuminati is real. Powerful people always meet with each other. A big example of this is "the G8 point". And if this is meant to be hidden and if they are this powerful, how we are able to expose them. Dont be ridiculous...
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Atzmuth wrote:This doesnt proof that illuminati is real. Powerful people always meet with each other. A big example of this is "the G8 point". And if this is meant to be hidden and if they are this powerful, how we are able to expose them. Dont be ridiculous...
Apparently, this is how. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_G ... iltrations

Of course, it's mostly a party and not a place where they make actual plans for anything. "Weaving spiders don't come here" or something.
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LOL............nice fotos..........aliens do exist, hundreds of thousands of individual sightings and many verified fotos of UFO's by doctors, lawyers, hi-Military and Intell......just do your homework.
Plus, there is something "new here", because of the technology we have today makes the ability for world domination much more probable than ever before in history.
Just keep studying, it's there if you investigate.
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Mithra's owl???

Mithra has a bull, Athena has an owl.

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MAZOHIR wrote:LOL............nice fotos..........aliens do exist, hundreds of thousands of individual sightings and many verified fotos of UFO's by doctors, lawyers, hi-Military and Intell......just do your homework.
Plus, there is something "new here", because of the technology we have today makes the ability for world domination much more probable than ever before in history.
Just keep studying, it's there if you investigate.
According to my interpretation of the Fermi Paradox, aliens don't exist.. and conspiracy theories are created to feed conspiracy theorists while completely hiding something even worse.
Matter of perspective. There is nothing to study. It's all "there". True secrets are never just "there".
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THE FRANKLIN COVERUP, written by Ex Senator John deCamp, details witnesses, and victims of "satanic ritual pedophile and snuff" killings at the Bohemian Grove, and other locations across the USA. He names the names, given to him by the victims, which also had been given to the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies, which would have placed him a various precarious situation legally, if they'd ever have been shown to be false. There are quite a few different investigators and researchers who have found this type of activity at the highest levels of world governments, and it's always covered up, concealed and hidden from the public, especially by agencies such as the FBI, CIA and other law-enforcement agencies.

There may be technology developed from NAZI work on peculiar systems of flight technology, but I think there exists way too much evidence that real alien craft and races are visiting the earth and have been for some time. A recent YOUTUBE video by a Karen Hudes, a highly placed World Bank executive, along with a number of other whistle blowers, has recently come out with information that she says can be researched and shows that a different race, whom she calls HUMANO CAPENSIS, is at the top of the deep manipulations of society world-wide. There are, no doubt, skeletons or at least skulls, of which there are a number of online photos one can view, that in fact, are quite different from human skulls, going at least back to the time of Akenaten. I have personally seen some very advanced and strange craft at different times, although I cannot say for sure what exactly they are. Both of these subjects are very controversial.

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Frumens, sorry I haven't been online here for quite some time. Teal Scott's story of Satanic ritual abuse? I haven't read it, but I'll check it out. Do you know who THE FINDERS were, and MARION PETTIE, the head of the FINDERS close to Langley, Virginia? I know his neighbor personally. From Culpepper, Virginia.
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I really dislike this aspect of the occult, Illuminati, conspiracies...

Sorry, but this is just hokem and distracts from the true value of occult practices - a personal spiritual evolution.

As for extra-terrestials, well, it is statistically highly likely there is other intelligent life in the universe.
However, the reality of physics makes it highly improbable (or even well nigh impossible) for them to visit other intelligence-bearing planets. Let's take a reasonably simple example:

1) E=MC(sq) which means your mass will increase the faster you travel, ie the closer you get to light-speed

2) The speed of light is 3x10exp8 m/s, or 300,000,000 metres per second
(and there is nothing faster, let's not get into discussions of CERN and alleged theoretical faster-than-light particles unless you believe you can rewrite the whole of current physics understanding)

3) The nearest star system to us, Proxima Centauri is unlikely to be able to support an intelligence-bearing planet, but let us pretend for our simple example that it could. It is 4.2 light years distance (40,113,792,000,000,000 km)

4) Currently our fastest NASA craft is a sluggardly 16,260 m/s at launch velocity, we'll call this Speed A
but we can increase that to 45,000 m/s by sling-shotting around the sun The speed is unsustainable, but let's pretend we could keep it up indefinitely for the sake of our example and we'll call it Speed B.
In 2018 NASA hope to achieve an unparalled 200,000 m/s for Solar Probe Plus so we'll include that too for reference purposes and call it Speed C

So, this gives us a journey time to Proxima Centauri of:
Speed A 78,229 years
Speed B 28,267 years
Speed C 6,360 years

But let's imagine our potential neighbours are ten times more advanced than our currently theoretical interstellar technology that still means a journey of 636 years. It isn't going to happen is it? Even if these beings had a 200year life span that's still many generations being born, living and dying on board a spacecraft - any intelligent race would be insane after this.

OK, let's pretend they're 100 times more advanced and can do the journey in 63.6 years. What would that do to
any living organism or their mental faculties? Even if they had cryostasis (like in all good sci-fi movies) and the journey seemed short, what would they do when they got here? What would we do to them?
Who would give up everything to travel in space? Assuming they got back to their own planet, what would they find? Everyone they ever knew would most likely be dead, even assuming the hypothetical 200 year life span.
What kind of intelligent society would finance and support an objective with no apparent benefit to them other than as an intellectual, scientific and engineering event of pioneering spirit?

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Cygnus wrote:I really dislike this aspect of the occult, Illuminati, conspiracies...

Sorry, but this is just hokem and distracts from the true value of occult practices - a personal spiritual evolution.

As for extra-terrestials, well, it is statistically highly likely there is other intelligent life in the universe.
However, the reality of physics makes it highly improbable (or even well nigh impossible) for them to visit other intelligence-bearing planets. Let's take a reasonably simple example:

1) E=MC(sq) which means your mass will increase the faster you travel, ie the closer you get to light-speed

2) The speed of light is 3x10exp8 m/s, or 300,000,000 metres per second
(and there is nothing faster, let's not get into discussions of CERN and alleged theoretical faster-than-light particles unless you believe you can rewrite the whole of current physics understanding)

3) The nearest star system to us, Proxima Centauri is unlikely to be able to support an intelligence-bearing planet, but let us pretend for our simple example that it could. It is 4.2 light years distance (40,113,792,000,000,000 km)

4) Currently our fastest NASA craft is a sluggardly 16,260 m/s at launch velocity, we'll call this Speed A
but we can increase that to 45,000 m/s by sling-shotting around the sun The speed is unsustainable, but let's pretend we could keep it up indefinitely for the sake of our example and we'll call it Speed B.
In 2018 NASA hope to achieve an unparalled 200,000 m/s for Solar Probe Plus so we'll include that too for reference purposes and call it Speed C

So, this gives us a journey time to Proxima Centauri of:
Speed A 78,229 years
Speed B 28,267 years
Speed C 6,360 years

But let's imagine our potential neighbours are ten times more advanced than our currently theoretical interstellar technology that still means a journey of 636 years. It isn't going to happen is it? Even if these beings had a 200year life span that's still many generations being born, living and dying on board a spacecraft - any intelligent race would be insane after this.

OK, let's pretend they're 100 times more advanced and can do the journey in 63.6 years. What would that do to
any living organism or their mental faculties? Even if they had cryostasis (like in all good sci-fi movies) and the journey seemed short, what would they do when they got here? What would we do to them?
Who would give up everything to travel in space? Assuming they got back to their own planet, what would they find? Everyone they ever knew would most likely be dead, even assuming the hypothetical 200 year life span.
What kind of intelligent society would finance and support an objective with no apparent benefit to them other than as an intellectual, scientific and engineering event of pioneering spirit?
I'm going to preface this by saying I have no real opinion either way on the whole question of whether aliens have visited Earth (physically or otherwise), but your reasoning is pretty flawed. You can't just take our current level of technological advancement, randomly pick levels of advancement, remove an equivalent order of magnitude off the travel time and call it a day. You're leaving out a fair few major factors.

The first is that technological advances take place exponentially (at least they have so far for humanity, and it seems reasonable to speculate that they would also do so for sentient species which have developed elsewhere - although it is, and can only be, speculation).

The second, and more important, is that there is no solid "laws" of science, only theoretical models backed up by experimental evidence which we utilize to further our scientific understanding and technological growth, put together into a rough approximation of a worldview within which we function. Which is awesome, generally, as this worldview allows us to discover and invent cool things (although a lot of what we do with those things isn't so awesome). The issue is that as our understanding advances, this worldview shifts.

Assuming that the speed of light absolutely cannot be surpassed or bypassed just because we currently don't know how to do it is absurd - any brief study of the history of human development will show that every generation has had it's ideas of what is and is not possible, it's worldview, only to have that worldview morphed or shattered by a deepening understanding of the universe as we progress as a society. Look at the shift from creationism to evolutionary theory, or from Newtonian to Quantum physics. Massive paradigm shifts nobody would have predicted until they actually took place and completely restructured how we view a certain aspect of reality.

Hell, look at this forum - if you were transported back in time a thousand years and had to explain computers and phones and the internet and electricity and the million other things we take for granted right now which are making this discussion possible, you wouldn't be able to do it. It would just be completely beyond the comprehension of the people you're speaking to - not because they're less intelligent per se, but because they lack the basic assumptions about reality necessary. At best you'd end up with a highly distorted understanding resulting from projecting your explanation through their own worldview.

Another good example is early scifi media - look at the way people 100 or 50 or even 30 years ago thought society would look where we are now (or where we will be in the future), compared to where we actually are now. The predictions are so far off it's laughable (both in the things they assumed would happen which didn't, and the things which they never even thought of which we take for granted in hindsight).

The reality is we just don't know. We have no clue what an alien society would look like or be capable of or what their motivations or worldview would be, just as we have no idea on the same for humanity even 20 or 30 years from now, let alone centuries, so any opinion on the matter is pure speculation. History has proven over and over that we're atrocious at predicting the path that technological and social development will take.
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@cyberdemon: whoah, you need to resize those pics.
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Cygnus wrote:As for extra-terrestials, well, it is statistically highly likely there is other intelligent life in the universe.
However, the reality of physics makes it highly improbable (or even well nigh impossible) for them to visit other intelligence-bearing planets. Let's take a reasonably simple example:
Theoritical physics does not exclude the possibility of ''wormholes'' which could serve as shortcuts to travel from point A to point B a lot more faster.

Wormholes are mentioned in Einstein's works: http://www.space.com/20881-wormholes.html

There are just too many things we don't know about the Universe to make definitive statements on this subject. That being said, the documentation on UFO sightings and Alien abduction is very exhaustive, thanks to pioneers like J. Allen Hynek, Jacques Vallé and John E. Mack. These phenomena fall squarely in the 'Occult', aliens or not.

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cyberdemon wrote:Oh and aliens don't exist - at least in the they-come-from-another-planet form. You'll want to consider the Fermi Paradox. Keep in mind that mind-control itself includes creation of conspiracies palatable by the general public.
But out of billion-millions of other places or planets? Why would we not be the only ones? Shouldn't it be far more likely that there is atleast some kind of life out there? Afterall where do the sources of the millions of new souls on Earth originate from?

Also what about the CERN Hadron Collider that is said to be able to tear a hole in the fabric of our current reality? They already plan on doing it and want to create a "mini-black hole".

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Liberator wrote:
cyberdemon wrote:Oh and aliens don't exist - at least in the they-come-from-another-planet form. You'll want to consider the Fermi Paradox. Keep in mind that mind-control itself includes creation of conspiracies palatable by the general public.
But out of billion-millions of other places or planets? Why would we not be the only ones? Shouldn't it be far more likely that there is atleast some kind of life out there? Afterall where do the sources of the millions of new souls on Earth originate from?

Also what about the CERN Hadron Collider that is said to be able to tear a hole in the fabric of our current reality? They already plan on doing it and want to create a "mini-black hole".
See, I've two trains of thought here.

Since my last post in this thread I've actually gone and watched several of Dr Steven Greer's lectures. I'm still not convinced on aliens however. Let's get into this from Dr Greer's, for a start. What he does is use meditation or as he calls it "sequencing of coherent thought", that thought basically being "here we are, show yourself". Doesn't that strike a bell? Meditation is what WE as occultists rely on primarily or secondarily to call down our associated entities.

This is where you can merge aliens and spirits together as a whole. Then sure, it works.

The second idea is that aliens would have to be physical, in which case they should be strewn all over the universe. So far we have no concrete proof of them (nor spirits for that matter) actually existing.

Right now it's a bit of Schrodinger's Cat. Until you see them, they both exist and not exist at the same time. I personally prefer to take the lack of evidence as proof of non-existence, when it comes to aliens.

Now, to address the main part of your question.
First of all, I'm inclined to think that the entire space program is a hoax. So if there really are billions of planets, I can ask you the same thing. Where are they? If there's a real firmament above the earth then space is a projection on a screen. Conspiracy theories? Look up the Lunar Wave, for example.

The source of millions of souls? Even if Earth is the ONLY playing field, it's easy to have a "reservoir" somewhere to host all the non-playing souls. 8 billion humans and say 12-18 billion other animals, for a nice round number lets just say 33 billion souls in total. Still not a lot if you go down to compare how many atoms are there in one human body. Or an object. Or anything. And all these singular atoms come from somewhere. Another dimension. Vacuum space. The outside of the universe, which already contains everything and more and more.

Y'know, what CERN is looking for is officially this "outside the universe", or at least they're trying to create a portal that opens long enough to glimpse into. Can that turn into a black hole and rip everything apart? Sure it can. But that's a consequence, not truly a reason.
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cyberdemon wrote:If you think of earth as an MMORPG, it becomes quite obvious that at some point or the other there will be a guild of players stronger than and dictating the actions of all the rest.
If you look at the world this way then who would the "devs" be and the people who care about the "storyline"? Would the second be us seeing as how we try to pry into the unknown and unknown knowledge or figure out what is gonna happen next?

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Liberator wrote:
cyberdemon wrote:If you think of earth as an MMORPG, it becomes quite obvious that at some point or the other there will be a guild of players stronger than and dictating the actions of all the rest.
If you look at the world this way then who would the "devs" be and the people who care about the "storyline"? Would the second be us seeing as how we try to pry into the unknown and unknown knowledge or figure out what is gonna happen next?
The highest god (eg. YHWH or Krishna or Allah and so on) would be the admin and all the demigods, angels and demons would be moderators. It's nice how in traditional demonology a fair amount of demons are said to control legions of lesser demons, have specific tasks and abilities and so on..

We as the players of course ought to be interested in storyline.. Yet how MMORPGs work is that the interactions between players, between players and the setting, etc. dictates the storyline. And of course then there are special events, like free items or storyline update.. So far we haven't gotten any free items, but we've had several events. Some of these events were player-sponsored. In fact I don't think an admin endorsed event had happened on Earth in a long, long time.
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