Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
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Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
And actually , Crowley's saying :
Love Under Will , was a code ;
Will = 8
Love = 13
8 divided by 13 = .6153846
21 = I Am
13 divided by 21 = .6190476
Keep going you shall reach the Phi Ratio...the Golden Mean ,
which ties life together through a mathematical formula...
It is not just the words , it is the code beneath the words... [thumbup]
Love Under Will , was a code ;
Will = 8
Love = 13
8 divided by 13 = .6153846
21 = I Am
13 divided by 21 = .6190476
Keep going you shall reach the Phi Ratio...the Golden Mean ,
which ties life together through a mathematical formula...
It is not just the words , it is the code beneath the words... [thumbup]
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Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
Every number is infinite; there is no difference.
- AL I:4
The book of the law itself, in the fourth line, states that numerology is meaningless.
- AL I:4
The book of the law itself, in the fourth line, states that numerology is meaningless.
"You look up into the night sky - whether as a child or an adult - and if you open yourself honestly, then it is a gateway to mystery, to the unknown."
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And Crowley himself wrote the "Book Of Lies" , which
was a play on words as it was to him a book of truths...
It was also the book which got him his position as Outer head of the O.T.O....
Further , Crowley used gematria more than anyone dreams , though it is
well known by many he used it extensively , and it is one of the main
methodologies of exploration within the O.T.O...
More , I can show how he used it to write the *formulas* such as :
93 ( Ninety Three )
Holy Guardian Angel
Crossing The Abyss
As well as many others , the symbol sets they secretly relate to , the deeper
multi levels of meaning , where the unicursal hexagram came from , why it
is important , and the keys ( literally ) hidden in it's shape , and what symbol
sets that relates to , the A∴A∴ , and what that secretly stands for , and how
it relates to both the Obri / Hebrew and Runic languages as one code , how the
word gematria itself , is a code for the two languages working together , etc...
Anyone who takes the Book of the Law just as scripture...Aha !
Crowley got them , hook , line , and sinker... [wink]
For instance , here is a link to a prominent man , involved with the O.T.O. ,
who expanded Crowley and Bennet's work with the gematria and Sepher Sephiroth...
I do not know where you get your information , O.O.S. , but I would suggest you do
a little more research , and exploring... [thumbup]
http://www.billheidrick.com/index.htm
http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm1.htm
I can supply you with quite a few more links , showing those within his organization ,
knew and know the value of gematria , and use it extensively , including to decode the
Book of the Law...
Do I really need to go through Uncle Al's book with you , ( as we affectionately call him )
and show you the references to number blatantly in the word phrases ?
https://hermetic.com/legis/ccxx/index
Best to you on your path...I myself have set a few stepping stones , for those who shall
come after...codes , my friend , all codes...not the words...the code beneath the words... [thumbup]
was a play on words as it was to him a book of truths...
It was also the book which got him his position as Outer head of the O.T.O....
Further , Crowley used gematria more than anyone dreams , though it is
well known by many he used it extensively , and it is one of the main
methodologies of exploration within the O.T.O...
More , I can show how he used it to write the *formulas* such as :
93 ( Ninety Three )
Holy Guardian Angel
Crossing The Abyss
As well as many others , the symbol sets they secretly relate to , the deeper
multi levels of meaning , where the unicursal hexagram came from , why it
is important , and the keys ( literally ) hidden in it's shape , and what symbol
sets that relates to , the A∴A∴ , and what that secretly stands for , and how
it relates to both the Obri / Hebrew and Runic languages as one code , how the
word gematria itself , is a code for the two languages working together , etc...
Anyone who takes the Book of the Law just as scripture...Aha !
Crowley got them , hook , line , and sinker... [wink]
For instance , here is a link to a prominent man , involved with the O.T.O. ,
who expanded Crowley and Bennet's work with the gematria and Sepher Sephiroth...
I do not know where you get your information , O.O.S. , but I would suggest you do
a little more research , and exploring... [thumbup]
http://www.billheidrick.com/index.htm
http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm1.htm
I can supply you with quite a few more links , showing those within his organization ,
knew and know the value of gematria , and use it extensively , including to decode the
Book of the Law...
Do I really need to go through Uncle Al's book with you , ( as we affectionately call him )
and show you the references to number blatantly in the word phrases ?
https://hermetic.com/legis/ccxx/index
Best to you on your path...I myself have set a few stepping stones , for those who shall
come after...codes , my friend , all codes...not the words...the code beneath the words... [thumbup]
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
The code beneath the words is... What these words individually and collectively say. Its just codes.
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No , not at all , my friend...
The codes lead you to the secret of methodologies to accomplish things ,
such as opening portals , working with the astral currents carried by the
telluric current of earth , certain places of great geomantic power , how
to call certain entities forth , etc...
However , one only knows that , through learning the code , working with
it long enough , then applying the techniques hidden in the code , and then
testing them , again and again , over time... [thumbup]
The codes lead you to the secret of methodologies to accomplish things ,
such as opening portals , working with the astral currents carried by the
telluric current of earth , certain places of great geomantic power , how
to call certain entities forth , etc...
However , one only knows that , through learning the code , working with
it long enough , then applying the techniques hidden in the code , and then
testing them , again and again , over time... [thumbup]
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
Please tell us what opening these portals and working with these powers has provided to you
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
That's a great question. The one we don't usually like asking it to our self, or answering it honestly, usually both.inMalkuth wrote:Please tell us what opening these portals and working with these powers has provided to you
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With respect , speak for yourself , Cerber... [thumbup]
I have no problem answering honestly...
Knowledge , ( via streams of information , like data download ) , Power ,
( like tapping into an electrical current ) , Interdimensional Contact ,
( otherworldly beings in vision and sonics ) , and some limited ability to
see into the far past , and future...
Just a few things , off the top of the head... [thumbup]
I have no problem answering honestly...
Knowledge , ( via streams of information , like data download ) , Power ,
( like tapping into an electrical current ) , Interdimensional Contact ,
( otherworldly beings in vision and sonics ) , and some limited ability to
see into the far past , and future...
Just a few things , off the top of the head... [thumbup]
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
So to put it into simple language, what doing this has given you is the license to do what you wilt.
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
I sort of was, actually. Philosophical observation.Shawn Blackwolf wrote:With respect , speak for yourself , Cerber... [thumbup]
Almost like internet. I got Wikipedia (written by anybody and everybody) with all the knowledge there is in the world, power to order food substitute in a plastic box for a meal, intercontinental contact with all cat videos servers, and I now able to predict weather one week in advance fairly accurately. I'm transcended [yay]Shawn Blackwolf wrote: Knowledge , ( via streams of information , like data download ) , Power ,
( like tapping into an electrical current ) , Interdimensional Contact ,
( otherworldly beings in vision and sonics ) , and some limited ability to
see into the far past , and future...[thumbup]
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Already had a license... [thumbup]inMalkuth wrote:So to put it into simple language, what doing this has given you is the license to do what you wilt.
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Is it not a common misconception that "Do what thou wilt" means do whatever you like? That's a very literal interpretation based on the meaning of the words but I think Crowley meant will as a greater destiny or purpose, and that it's the individual's goal to become in touch with that true will.
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Absolutely , Chowderpope...chowderpope wrote:Is it not a common misconception that "Do what thou wilt" means do whatever you like? That's a very literal interpretation based on the meaning of the words but I think Crowley meant will as a greater destiny or purpose, and that it's the individual's goal to become in touch with that true will.
And one of our symbol sets , equals 894...
Thelema = 133
Law = 240
True = 255
Will = 267
= 895
The counterpoint set of symbols to that , equals 1318 :
Common Person's = 34
Law = 611
Restriction = 672
= 1317
Those who have truly read Crowley's work ,
know what he said about restriction... [thumbup]
This code is where he got his statements , based in gematria... [wink]
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
Actually Crowley never said he created this book, he actually denied that it happened to him and fought with it for years. He didnt premeditate the gematria of it. It was a received work that wasnt his design. Also you arent including every word in your translation, only certain words from the phrase... so it actually isnt quite as accurate as you think.
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Are you referring to the Book of the Law ?
None of what I posted there came from that...you are familiar with how many works he wrote ?
And InMalkuth , you keep thinking I am a beginner...
I read Crowley's works in the late '70s , early '80s...
I know what he said...I taught Thelemites , and still occasionally do...
When I said "work" , I was referring to his larger body of work...
Please do some research , okay ?
I am *not* translating anything...I am showing where things he referred to *really* came from...
Just like the eight symbols in our "mother" column , make the shape of the human body , when
fit together...and add to the high value for the Obri / Hebrew number for Blood ( Dam )...
Yet , they also equal the value for "Holy Guardian Angel" , and our "father" column , adds to the
value of "Internal Light" ( 190 + 201 ) , yet as well "Portal"...
I am trying my best to share some normally hidden tradition... [thumbup]
( One of Crowley's statements was : "The Only Sin Is Restriction" , thus the "common man" lives by the Law
of that , whereas a Thelemite , as he was trying to teach our code , lives by the Law Of True Will ...this is why
"Law" has two number values in my above formulas )
None of what I posted there came from that...you are familiar with how many works he wrote ?
And InMalkuth , you keep thinking I am a beginner...
I read Crowley's works in the late '70s , early '80s...
I know what he said...I taught Thelemites , and still occasionally do...
When I said "work" , I was referring to his larger body of work...
Please do some research , okay ?
I am *not* translating anything...I am showing where things he referred to *really* came from...
Just like the eight symbols in our "mother" column , make the shape of the human body , when
fit together...and add to the high value for the Obri / Hebrew number for Blood ( Dam )...
Yet , they also equal the value for "Holy Guardian Angel" , and our "father" column , adds to the
value of "Internal Light" ( 190 + 201 ) , yet as well "Portal"...
I am trying my best to share some normally hidden tradition... [thumbup]
( One of Crowley's statements was : "The Only Sin Is Restriction" , thus the "common man" lives by the Law
of that , whereas a Thelemite , as he was trying to teach our code , lives by the Law Of True Will ...this is why
"Law" has two number values in my above formulas )
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
Shawn Blackwolf wrote:@ Violetstar
If you remember me talking about that arrangement of symbols in the other thread equaling 1008 ,
and there were two columns of nine symbols , thus eighteen in total...
The sum of 1 to 18 , inclusive , is 171 ( 1 + 2 + 3 + 4...)
Snake = 171
We have another arrangement of symbols , equaling 1788 , which Crowley knew ;
Now , first , in gematria :
Do = 375
What = 45
Thou = 90
Wilt = 246
= 756
Sephiroth , Numbers , Emanations = 756
However :
Do What Thou Wilt = 756
Shall Be = 30
Whole = 440
Of = 150
Law = 240
+
171
= 17
There were reasons , as there always are for occult sayings , often based in gematria...
And yes , the ideal of that above , is different in application , due especially to space time placement... [wink]
Actually wow i see love under will and here you took dowhat thou wilt what i noticed was you didnt include "the"
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.......................................................................................................................................................................inMalkuth wrote:Shawn Blackwolf wrote:@ Violetstar
If you remember me talking about that arrangement of symbols in the other thread equaling 1008 ,
and there were two columns of nine symbols , thus eighteen in total...
The sum of 1 to 18 , inclusive , is 171 ( 1 + 2 + 3 + 4...)
Snake = 171
We have another arrangement of symbols , equaling 1788 , which Crowley knew ;
Now , first , in gematria :
Do = 375
What = 45
Thou = 90
Wilt = 246
= 756
Sephiroth , Numbers , Emanations = 756
However :
Do What Thou Wilt = 756
Shall Be = 30
Whole = 440
Of = 150
Law = 240
+
171
= 1787
There were reasons , as there always are for occult sayings , often based in gematria...
And yes , the ideal of that above , is different in application , due especially to space time placement... [wink]
Actually wow i see love under will and here you took do what thou wilt what i noticed was you didnt include "the"
Correct...
Normally , "the" is inferred as I have found over the years...
As I say , and have said , here and elsewhere , explaining the code , I did *not*
invent the code , I am unfolding it , like a hypercube...a native elder called it
"unfolding the medicine bundle"...
"And" , is valued , yet normally , "the" is not...Obri / Hebrew has quirks like that ,
as well the Runic comparison...an exception seems to be when it is referring to
something specific and important , though not always...
Example :
I Am = 21
The = 601 ( high value )
Fall = 141
Of = 150
Atlantis = 96
= 1009
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))) progress stabilization levels are appreciated however it depends on the cig buts at 3 am.... lolol..
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Thats very true CJcactusjack543 wrote:))) progress stabilization levels are appreciated however it depends on the cig buts at 3 am.... lolol..
Woe if I reveal,Woe if I do not reveal...
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Unless you do not smoke and are violently allergic to it... [wink]violetstar wrote:Thats very true CJcactusjack543 wrote:))) progress stabilization levels are appreciated however it depends on the cig buts at 3 am.... lolol..
Then it is dependent on how many winks it takes to get to sleep...
And how many dreams you have with thirty winks... [thumbup]
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Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
The problem with gematria is that we arent numbers...
there is form, and there is content.
there is form, and there is content.
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There is a matrix of meaning...inMalkuth wrote:The problem with gematria is that we arent numbers...
there is form, and there is content.
That can be considered "content" , I agree...
However , anything physical can be described , defined , and understood mathematically...
What I find ridiculous , hilarious , yet very sad , is when any criticize gematria , before they
spend at least seven years , minimum twelve hours a day , studying it , practicing it ,
and making it practical in their magical methodologies , and understanding of the reality
they exist within...total , and complete immersion into that "universe" , without any
pre - judgement...
In the multi - universe theory , there is even a posit that a mathematical universe is the
root of all other ones... [shock2] ... [thumbup]
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1119 ... _of_Limits
Just one great book which illustrates form and number
Re: Do What Thou Wilt and learn.
Im not discounting or prejudging the value of it. I understand how it works and why its good. I dont need to study it for 7 years to assess what 7 years of study does, you represent that to me. What you say is that "Do What Thou Wilt" doesnt actually mean that, and that those who take it literally arent aware of what you are aware of. Im saying this is untrue. Im pointing out that you say that do what thou wilt isnt what we learn, and then you dispute my observation that gematria makes us negate any literal meaning to be false (even though your argument states otherwise).
So back to the original statement that Do What Thou Wilt isnt what we learn... do you still want to disagree?
Im frustrated at how you run in circles.
So back to the original statement that Do What Thou Wilt isnt what we learn... do you still want to disagree?
Im frustrated at how you run in circles.
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I could be frustrated with your posts as well...
but it is not worth it , no disrespect intended... [thumbup]
And I can't even figure out what you are saying or *accusing* me of now ,
cause as I read your post , I did none of those things...
Make a coherent post , showing each step of what you are saying and
accusing me of , and I *might* take the time and effort to answer...
I will think about it , and see if it feels right to do so... [wink]
but it is not worth it , no disrespect intended... [thumbup]
And I can't even figure out what you are saying or *accusing* me of now ,
cause as I read your post , I did none of those things...
Make a coherent post , showing each step of what you are saying and
accusing me of , and I *might* take the time and effort to answer...
I will think about it , and see if it feels right to do so... [wink]