Definitions
Time Realm (renamed form "astral" to be more self explanatory if that's cool): The universe that our physical realm exists in. This realm also has the dimensions of motion throughout time. Has non-linear time.
I would almost call this a timeless realm, astral works, non-physical, etc. Calling it by what its not is kind of sloppy, but its a working title.
How about we call the "Physical Ream" a "Linear Realm", because its key trait is that it functions linearly. Otherwise one has to wonder what "physical" means. I think that the dualism between mind and matter is itself an illusion. Look at the first hermetic principle: "all is mind". "Physical" implies that it is somehow more real than "Non-Physical", which would be incorrect.
I agree on the poor name choice. I was mostly referring to "Physical" as in x,y,z (physical space), and "Time" as in time dimensions. Though, I guess "time" implies linearity in the general use of the term.
"Astral" would work, but most think of the astral as less "real" than "Physical". Non-linear isn't properly descriptive either. Non-linear makes me think of changes in slope, but it doesn't imply concurrent processing.
How about this for new definitions:
Physical Realm = Linear Realm
Time Realm = Concurrent Realm
I like the term Linear, because it reminds me of a thread / line (rather than the word "sequential", which is very similar). The Concurrent Realm is like a pool of threads (Linear Realms).
Also, I made a mistake:
Physical Realm: The universe that exists within our three dimensions of physical space. Has linear time.
Works for me.
Not our three dimensions of space. All possible dimensions of space, including the ones we cannot perceive. Not x,y,z but x,y,z,a,b,c,d,e,f,...
There could be a potentially very large, or even endless number of spatial dimensions.
Closed system argument
This is tricky and relies heavily upon personal bias/beliefs/etc. I am not sure about this. First lets start with "The Physical Realm is a closed system". Why is this the case? I can see the totality of all the planes being a closed system. I guess the fundamental question is can something exist that is non-human that is an observer. I believe we both agree this can be true. Then if it is non-human, does it have to exist on the physical plane? (Ghosts/Gods/Demons/Angels/Alien Intelligence/Higher life forms/etc) If an entity can both be a non-human observer, and exist on a plane other than the physical, then this closed system idea is no good.
I actually had an argument that wasn't really biased. Maybe I failed to explain it. The basis behind the Internal Causation Rule was to see our Linear Realm like the main function of a program. In programming, for one process to access the memory of another program, data handles need to be passed. The operating system won't even let one process see the same memory addresses as another process. They are totally separated. My reasoning was that if our Linear Realm is like a main thread, then anything that can affect us must have been given access by us. We have to give data handles to other threads, or else they can't "see" us. Our thread has to explicitly call another thread into existence (by "collapsing" its state, by writing to it), and pass shared data handles in order for data transfers to occur.
I meant that our Linear Realm is a closed system in the sense that it has to explicitly support data transfers between itself and other Linear Realms. Because of the memory ordering issue, when we access another Linear Realm, it's less like we're actually accessing another solid place, and more like we're collapsing a myriad of possible Linear Realms into the one we are after. It's not like there's two rivers that meet at given points. It's like there's one river, but at certain points its water flows down alternate routes before flowing back into the main river. We aren't accessing other discrete Linear Realms so much as we're calling "Create Thread" from our own realm. There's still concurrent processing going on even if one thread controls the other threads.
Yes, something can definitely exist that is not a human observer. If you can dream, then you know that this is possible (as you don't have your body during a dream). This is 90% of the difficulty with observers. They hold data, but are basically impossible to target because they aren't data. If you want to target a specific observer, you have to know what data is in it. If we treat observers as an origin of force, this strangely reminds me of dark matter. Things that appear to be causing forces (mass), and even be bound to a certain areas of space, but don't actually have a specific position, nor a representation, so they can't be seen. An observer doesn't even have to be like a camera at a specific point. The observer could be receiving visual data from Europe, and be hearing at South America.
"Physical", to me, does not imply any level of space coherency. While we have time dimensions at the Concurrent Realm, at the Linear Realm, we could have any large number of spatial dimensions other than the usual x,y,z. "Physical" just means that interactions are occurring without memory ordering issues that come with concurrency. "Physical" means that causation is forced to function in a sequential way. In the more or less standard interpretation of "planes" where creatures can live in more or less spatially separate realms, you could treat x,y,z as the spatial coordinate system of each "plane", and then switch planes with another spatial coordinate like "p" (x,y,z,p,...) The planes are all still within the same "physical" realm because they are all functioning according to the same linear time (they all work on the same "clock"). Linear Realm dimensions can have any amount of spatial complexity (x,y,z,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,...), and the Concurrent Realm just adds a few dimensions on top of the linear ones, so we get (x,y,z...,t1,t2), where t1 = time on linear realm, and t2 = which linear realm.
Watchers, aliens, etc., are all "physical" (in linear time). If humans are not linking to other Linear Realms and dealing with memory ordering, it is entirely possible that aliens, or any other race, potentially not even on our x,y,z, but on higher spatial dimensions, could be calling concurrent processes into existence, and be handling memory ordering problems. I make no assumptions on what invitations already exist. But it makes sense to me that invitations are in fact required.
Another question to ask ourselves, does reality, in the absence of observers, move forward based solely on the ramifications of the big bang and chaos theory (deterministic butterfly effect)?
If causation is caused by the interference of observers, then there can be no concept of causation in the sense of the big bang, etc. Realistically, without observers, there would be no gravity-like force that we know as time, and there would be no reality, because there would be no one to observe it into existence. First hermetic principle: all is mind. However, if we assume that the universe can exist without an observer, given the lack of a direction for time, I would think that all permutations of reality would exist at once, instantaneously, eternally.
OR, is reality the sum of all of the million million nudges at any given moment from all entities than can be considered an observer?
That would seem to be the case. No observers = No causation = No data
What are the minimum requirements to be an observer? Sentience?
I would define an observer as anything capable of holding data, so yes, sentience is the only requirement. Intelligence is unnecessary.
multi-threaded access protocols
Yes, relaxed memory ordering was what I was getting at in particular. It would seem that the universe's multi-threading would by default use the loosest ordering, and that any extra restrictions would be optional.
Perhaps the existence of sequential ordering within or Linear Realm is part of the reason we seem to have a fixed pace clock. Apparently sequential ordering is slower than relaxed.
If we assume that the object is say a rock, and the read request is observation, then the observer cannot read the object at an earlier stage than the last time it was read, and since that is shared across observers, it would account for linear time (movement towards entropy).
Exactly.
Servitors as Observers
This one is going to depend heavily upon whether we consider Servitors to actually be independent. The major difference in my opinion of a Servitor and some other Entity, is that a Servitor is a semi-autonomous extension of yourself. I think of them as subroutines or services/daemons. In fact that is how I initiate, edit configurations, save, execute, and background them.
It depends on if the servitor is limited to your Linear Realm or is run asynchronously on a different Linear Realm, and is then interfaced through a mutex or through the use of atomics.
Mutex (mutually exclusive object):
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/345 ... is-a-mutex
Atomic vs Non-Atomic:
http://preshing.com/20130618/atomic-vs- ... perations/
I'm not sure what operations in our reality, would be atomic, and which would not be. We could probably say that singular bits of data are atomic (a single color), whereas a group of things might not be atomic (a car).
So, based on your definition, a servitor is a task that operates within the Linear Realm (using some sort of task scheduling to allow for effective multi-tasking), whereas an entity is on a different Linear Realm?
I'm not sure I agree on your word choice. We should be more specific. A ghost could be on our realm, or in another Linear Realm. Either way, it's still a ghost. Perhaps we should differentiate by using keywords such as local and non-local, to be explicit about where the processing occurs.
As for the forget and let your subconscious handle it, I have an issue on this a bit. I have a photographic memory, I literally cannot forget things that I invest my attention. So every time I call my recall the sigil for my servitor I immediately remember all of the aspects of it, confirm its identity and then background it again. So I dont know how others would handle that. At this time I have only one. It is complicated, has 4 major tasks, and 2 subtasks.
Other people have to manually recall the servitor's traits, in order to properly target it. It's a lot more difficult. I have a very good memory, and it's still hard for me (not quite photographic, but if I walk through a large corn maze, I can walk through it again perfectly the next time.) For some people, they'd probably need to log changes to the servitor over time, with the use of a journal.
As to servitor self empowerment, as we have said in a closed system there is a standard level of MP roaming, I summoned it and focused on tapping the ambient MP. Each time that I summon the Servitor I reconfirm/rewrite the config/commands, and then execute and background.
Alright, so if there is a standard amount of MP roaming, we could infer that there must also be a standard amount of roaming observers (as MP and observers are basically equivalent). Using "ambient MP" would be like placing a servitor on a higher dimension than our typical x,y,z in order to put it closer to less spatially restricted (easier movement, unlike people) observers. Therefore, we can infer the existence of things like ghosts. We could probably split a Linear Realm into higher and lower sections based on how easy it is for observers to move around (which correlates to less restricted MP flow).
Concurrent Realm (t1, t2)
{
Linear Realm
{
Mental (d,e,f,...)
Astral (a,b,c,...)
Physical (x,y,z)
}
}
External Entities
So for the sake of Gods, lets say they are widely (to a varying degree) known entities that are generally revered and petitioned for tasks. I see this as unintended Servitors, that get fed by attention and could be potentially channeled into action. The trick is that depending on how powerful they are, they have probably adopted mannerisms and sentience, so petitioning an entity would be rife with difficulties. However, their MP would be off the charts.
Side note: the god might only be powerful in relation to those that are observing it. It could be like a train man thing. If you've ever seen the Matrix Revolutions, Neo loses his god-like power after he ends up on a fringe of the matrix (his power is based on where he is.) The god might have a lot of MP in relation to us, because like an object with gravitational potential, it is "high above" us (and has a lot of distance to fall). To itself, it might be pathetically weak, because there is no "voltage difference" between itself and itself. In order to power a load (turn MP into force), it might be necessary for there to be some sort of mathematical "distance" between the MP and the source of it.
Perhaps intelligence, as developed by natural selection in our observable world, also happens at a faster rate on less spatially restricted dimensions of our Linear Realm. The force output by each observation of an entity, could be seen like throwing neurons at a brain. It stimulates the order into chaos, which results in faster development. It would be very interesting to think of there being species of things on higher dimensions. There could be food chains. That could be relevant in making sure that your servitor is not absorbed/eaten by whatever predators might exist. I'm not sure why I'm thinking of higher dimensions as being so different from this one.
As for sentience, maybe that occurs when an MP blob gets enough attractive force that it can force an "ambient observer" to see through its "eyes". If observers are making the MP through observation, it would be plausible that some of them could forget themselves and get trapped / assimilated by the MP blob's configuration. Kind of like falling asleep. Who says we're even the same observer every time we sleep and wake up? What if the body just attracts a random one, and you can't tell the difference?
Gods
These entities (gods) wouldn't exist on the physical plane, so the linearity of time wouldn't even be a concern, and they might even have trouble understanding such a lowly creature that is asking for something.
Example: Might magician opens communication with a God, petitions for wealth. Perhaps the God, not understanding the linearity of time to which the petitioner is enslaved, kicks off a massive magick effect that isnt seen in the petitioners life time. Or perhaps they do not truly understand wealth as we know it. First it has changed many many times over the years, and second they were never human, so perhaps wealth as we know it has no meaning, and you end up with a lot of rock salt instead.
I would say that any gods would definitely be able to understand linear time. Time, in my opinion, is always perceived linearly. Though both you and the god are perceiving linear time, you might both be in separate Linear Realms, so anything you try to send to it might come across as gibberish because of memory ordering. Without a protocol such as the acquire/release memory ordering, the god might receive a message at your t=10, then, during their processing time, your time may have advanced to t=99999. The address to respond to (the time) must be sent with the message, or else the god would be unable to return anything back to the sender. If we assume linearity of time in daily life, and only put spatial addresses on our letters, perhaps it is necessary to put spatial as well as a time addresses on inter Linear Realm communication. That would be similar to an acquire/release memory ordering. The difficulty is that our time address is constantly changing. It's very difficult to mail something to someone if they are constantly moving.
Data will definitely have different meanings in different Linear Realms. I agree with the rock salt thing. Even if they were human, it is known that culture, value, etc., changes over time. This just gave me an interesting idea. What if it were possible to contact a magickian from ancient China (or some place that used to use rice as money). Because of the past ambiguity principle, it would be reasonable to think of this past as a completely separate Linear Realm. Even if you both were human, perhaps this person sends you rice instead of gold? Because you weren't specific enough about what you wanted.
Corporate Branding
In a lot of ways I think corporate branding can start this sort of thing off, but without conscious reverence I dont see them aspiring to sentience, perhaps more like a child or animal. Harder to upset or cajole, power would be unfocused, but potentially just as much MP as a God.
Agreed.
Gravitation Fields
F=(GMm)/(r^2)
The gravitational force between two large objects will be greater than the gravitational force between two smaller objects (at the same distances).
Maybe you could put the Mega-Events in pairs. We know that our current world must have an absurd amount of MP to be as stable as it is, so we could call the universe itself a Mega-Event.
Then, whatever has the next highest MP will be the other Mega-Event: entropy. We could see time as the progression from one Mega-Event to another. It's speed would then be equivalent to the gravitational force of the universe and entropy, minus resistance caused by Micro-Events (that's what I'll call the minor events, in order to follow your naming scheme).
The analogy of gravity to explain magick works much better than electricity. It means that a ground is unnecessary. But still, going back to electricity, if you had a Mega-Event which was inline with your intentions, you could use it as a ground to give your minimal MP more force (because the gravity formula looks at both the Micro-Event and the Mega-Event in question). Along these lines, with a stretch, you could see electricity as a special case of gravity.
These events would take the form of the observers expectations, but would serve as a cyclic balance for MP on any given plane.
I don't think expectations have anything to do with force exerted by an observer. It has to do with what they're watching. Maybe if they are expectant in an "absorbed in fear" sort of way it would do something.
Cyclic balance. Gravity is basically a circuit that works in a straight line. The force is dependent on both masses. They are both each other's subjective "hot" (and neutral). That's interesting.
So if an observer were to desire an action that interfered with a Mega-Event, the cost of such an act would be on par with how much it interferes. The Mega-Event has amassed a large pool of MP, to which greats this gravitational field, which would distort efforts to change or modify it.
Agreed.
Now what if someone could determine/observer/perceive the likelihood of such an event based on the gravitational distortion. Essentially this would account for divination.
Agreed. This theory makes divination quite simple actually. You just make a Micro-Event, lock onto it, then watch it progress towards the biggest Mega Event. Of course, there's a margin of error in this, because the Micro-Event wouldn't move in a straight line the whole time, as there is more than one attractive force.
Further yet, what if one or more persons made efforts to initiate these events before they go so big that it would put reality as we know it under strain, or have a massive disruption in life as we know it.
I think we can assume that all Mega-Events should start off as Micro-Events and then accumulate MP over time. The trick to a disruptive new Mega-Event would be to make it in such a way that the biggest Mega-Event could not absorb it. You'd have to be accelerating it against interfering gravity as you were building it. Which would be slightly difficult because the attractive force between it and entropy would be increasing as you increased the MP on your own competing Mega-Event. You'd need some kind of insulator such as is done with electricity, to block the gravitational force between your Mega-Event and entropy, otherwise you'd never be able to make your Mega-Event overpower entropy (only slightly bend it before being absorbed). I'm not sure how to solve that problem right now.
Deductive Targetting
This is an experimental method. It's conjecture. Try to find flaws and improve if you can.
There's an inherent difficulty in targeting observers, because they do not have spatial locations, but are instead composed of data themselves. They are formless, even though they can cause force.
Because they cause force, it is imperative that they can be targeted in order them to be practically used. It is imperative that a magickian can locate them without pre knowledge of them, especially for banishing purposes, and also especially for re-identifying observers that have been programmed to work on background tasks.
Use of both MP attraction as well as memory ordering is necessary to identify an observer (especially if it is on a non-local Linear Realm).
You can use probability to deduce an observer based on minimal known knowledge. Because your observation causes a build up of MP, if you know roughly what data an observer contains, and lightly hold said data in your observation, your focus will be attracted to the target observer (and vice versa). You can use this to "scan" for observers, by imagining what data they would have, if you were them. Keep in mind that space is not a factor here, only data similarity. There could be many rooms that look alike, but if you want to find the observer in one of those look alike rooms, you'll have to know what the surrounding rooms (not alike) are like, in order to narrow down a search.
Because of relaxed memory ordering, bits of data identified on an observer need not fit with other bits of data on the observer. If an observer's data was based on a rule such as y = x + 2, if you read x to be 5, y would not have to be 7. You have to continuously read data over time until you get the "most recent" values. However, once the target observer has been targeted a bit, the observer with the known variables, would gravitate towards you (as you are at least partially focusing on it, which causes MP, which causes attraction.) Effectively, you initially lock on using some kind of mutually known value (could be a call sigil, etc.) that at least one of you will always keep in observation. Once you have that lock on, you begin to "collapse" all the other variables associated with the observer through gravitation. So, with low attraction, if y = x + 2, and x = 5, y does not have to equal 7, but with high attraction, y has to equal 7. If a sigil is not enough to deduce a unique observer, along with other information that should be known about the observer's programming, it might be necessary to perform continuous reads on incoherent data in order to build up attraction and cause a "collapse".
Keep note that by using this deductive targeting method, you actually become the observer as attraction increases. This is the same kind of technique as a point shift (which is used in astral projection).
This may or may not be wanted. It is likely ideal to deductively target the observer in mind, up until a certain maximum "proximity" (level of sameness) is reached, then to apply MP to the observer by imagining them being different to how they are (for editing) Without a proper lock on though, it is likely that applying MP will simply cause the creation of a new entity, which could cause clutter in reality's "namespace".
Amplification Ritual
Instead of making servitors to do things, I'm fiddling with the idea of literally splitting consciousness into various perspectives in order to amplify MP.
Rather than evoke a non-local entity (outside of the current Linear Realm), I try to use concurrency to point shift myself to multiple places at once.
It's a bit incomplete, but you might find the concept interesting.
1. Pick a direction to be "front". This is arbitrary, but necessary, as consistency must be maintained across all selves in order to ensure that they are all in the same place. (Places with identical data ARE identical.) I based this ritual on the LBRP, so I'm going to use East as my front.
2. Draw a circle around yourself laterally, and at the height of your abdomen. You need to be able to see the circle almost as if it's there. The more you can visualize it solidly, the better (more MP). Also draw a circle longitudinally that cuts through the floor. The idea is to outline a sphere around yourself. You should be inside of a wire frame sphere.
3. Draw a desired pentagram (used an earth banishing one) at the East, then South, then West, then North (clockwise), on the circle's longitudinal circumference. Then draw a hexagram on the top and bottom poles of the sphere. The hexagrams should be the same orientation if you're looking from above or below. Make sure that all of the pentagrams and hexagrams are drawn in a neutral color (grey), are observable, but not distracting.
4. Inside of each pentagram, imagine a colored orb which represents the eye of an observer. At east, make the orb green. At south, make the orb red. At west, make the orb blue. At north, make the orb yellow. Inside of each hexagram, there will also be an orb. At the top hexagram, put a white orb, and at the bottom hexagram, but a black orb (sun shining on darkness, to help with memory). The colors and directions are taken from the elements to act as a memory aid.
5. Now, you have to point shift into each of the orbs to give them MP. While point shifting, imagine that your head is at the orb, and that you are facing towards the sphere's center. The idea is to focus multiple observers on the center of the sphere, so that the sphere can act as an amplified work area. When you point shift to each orb, you have to observe through it as if the work to be amplified has already been done. If you plan to make a ball of static or something, make sure that the observer sees the static ball before you make it once you return to being the magickian. The idea is that the observers add "gravitational" force towards the magickian's objective. Do not turn at all during this part. Face east the whole time, so that the observers are all agreeing on what the interior the sphere looks like. If you turn each time you point shift, you'll add interference. By doing it this way, it also solidifies that each eye is at a different position, because there is more data different between each eye (the white sees the head, black sees the feet, green sees the face, etc.) Make sure that each eye also sees the pentagrams, hexagrams, other eyes, and circle lines, but be sure that the magickian is allowed to obstruct certain things from vision with their body. The point of the colored eyes it to make it easier to keep track of view orientation through color coding directions. Make sure each eye also sees the room outside of the sphere.
6. Now that you have finished point shifting, perform the magickal act. Personally, I just did a modification of the Qaballistic Cross. I imagined light moving through my heart in lines, for invigoration, on each cardinal direction. Up/Down, Left/Right, Forwards/Backwards.
7.Reabsorb all of the eyes. Deductively target each of them, and visualize the room being already banished for each one. The eyes should not see the circle, pentagrams, each other, etc. (No color help this time). Hold each observer for a certain amount of time to gather MP towards clearing the room. Then, from each eye, slowly move the perspective back to your normal one. It feels a lot like waking up from a dream. It's also extremely disorienting, and to me, seems to make my body move towards a state similar to psychosis. The brain doesn't seem to know what to do with the information of being elsewhere, so it starts messing up the internal model of things.
8. From your normal perspective, stop seeing the circle, pentagrams, etc.
Could be a placebo, but I noticed a rather quick drop of the pentagrams. It had a "candle blown out" feel. I also noticed a bit of a static like feeling throughout the ritual.