How would you construct a spell to work on a bisexual guy?

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How would you write a spell/word/construct a spell so it would work on a bisexual man?

the man I want to cast it on when I first got to know him he was gay and had no interest in women,we had a big blow up and went our separate ways,and he started seeing a guy and last year out of no where he contacted me on facebook,and I was nice enough to aleast hear him out and we mended things and became friends again,and it was shortly after getting to be friends with him again that I foudout he had started giving it a try with girls and likes guys and girls.

So anyway I have never did a spell on a bisexual guy before and am wondering how should I word it,etc,etc?

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The same way you would for anybody else.

What is it that you want the spell to accomplish?
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RoseRed wrote:The same way you would for anybody else.

What is it that you want the spell to accomplish?

To basically catch his attention in a big way and get a relationship under way [thumbup]

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Flashy colours! Flashy colours always grab attention.
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Ramscha wrote:Flashy colours! Flashy colours always grab attention.

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Have you tried a 'notice me' glamour?
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I see no one here has pointed out it is extremely bad form (using magic) to influence others to your will. If one wishes to gain love or attention, use a form of magic that has no specific target. In other words, do not limit the universe to one person, and force them to be the "one". Leave your options open, and create a spell in which you simply evoke the attention and love that not only you require, but one who suits you requires as well. This way, both participants win, and not only you.

Needless to say, any magic "forcing" someone to be with you, doesn't lasts very long. It is usually these forced encounters and artificial relationships break down in due time anyway, and can hardly be seen worth the time and effort in the end. There are plenty of fish in the sea, and there is hardly a reason to limit your vision upon one person.

In any event, just to answer the question, one's sexual orientation should not have any say in one's magical choices.

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Lord Ferocia wrote:I see no one here has pointed out it is extremely bad form (using magic) to influence others to your will. If one wishes to gain love or attention, use a form of magic that has no specific target. In other words, do not limit the universe to one person, and force them to be the "one".
Well this should be rather obvious and is pointed out in nearly any other thread... what was that about morals?
In any event, just to answer the question, one's sexual orientation should not have any say in one's magical choices.
Agreed, except for the points when the roles are clearly pointed out and one follows the tradition. Classical Crowley psychodrama for example...
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I see no one here has pointed out it is extremely bad form (using magic) to influence others to your will. If one wishes to gain love or attention, use a form of magic that has no specific target. In other words, do not limit the universe to one person, and force them to be the "one".

Well this should be rather obvious and is pointed out in nearly any other thread... what was that about morals?
I haven't seen it pointed out here, which was my point. It isn't always obvious to many beginners.

Morals have nothing to do with it, consequences do. Conditions evoked are conditions evoked regardless of moral standards. One does not call placing their hand on a hot stove "morally wrong", yet it is obvious it would bring about undesired consequences.
In any event, just to answer the question, one's sexual orientation should not have any say in one's magical choices.

Agreed, except for the points when the roles are clearly pointed out and one follows the tradition. Classical Crowley psychodrama for example...
Not sure I follow you here. What roles are you talking about and what tradition uses these "roles" (i.e. bisexual etc.) as a deciding factor in spell making? Crowley uses no such criteria within his magical methods. Psychodrama may be used in other regards outside the scope of making "love spells" etc. No account of ones sexual orientation is used in the formulation of magic rituals.

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Not sure I follow you here. What roles are you talking about and what tradition uses these "roles" (i.e. bisexual etc.) as a deciding factor in spell making? Crowley uses no such criteria within his magical methods. Psychodrama may be used in other regards outside the scope of making "love spells" etc. No account of ones sexual orientation is used in the formulation of magic rituals.
I talk about the roles a male and a female take in a certain system or at least in a certain operation. It is not exactly about the sexual orientation, more about the gender role.

An example (first page):
http://www.otonewzealand.org.nz/files/L ... 0Legis.pdf

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Considering that the morals of 'love spells' has been discussed ad naseum here - a simple forum search will bring those threads up.

It's not my place to dictate morals to others but, by all means, feel free. People do what they do and hopefully, learn from some things along the way.

Ah, yes - but you're not talking about morals. You think it's a bad idea and therefore, no one should do it. Did I miss your point?

I do happen to agree that love spells are usually a very bad idea. And, in fact, the OP is looking more for a notice me or lust spell. And in case you didn't notice - my suggestion was a 'notice me' glamour on him/herself. The difference being - I made a suggestion - I didn't bark orders at some stranger on the internet.
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Lord Ferocia wrote:I see no one here has pointed out it is extremely bad form (using magic) to influence others to your will. If one wishes to gain love or attention, use a form of magic that has no specific target. In other words, do not limit the universe to one person, and force them to be the "one". Leave your options open, and create a spell in which you simply evoke the attention and love that not only you require, but one who suits you requires as well. This way, both participants win, and not only you.




Needless to say, any magic "forcing" someone to be with you, doesn't lasts very long. It is usually these forced encounters and artificial relationships break down in due time anyway, and can hardly be seen worth the time and effort in the end. There are plenty of fish in the sea, and there is hardly a reason to limit your vision upon one person.

In any event, just to answer the question, one's sexual orientation should not have any say in one's magical choices.

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( depends on ones tradition and or culture too. while I do not practice Vodou/Voodoo or even Hoodoo I have friends that do and when they lived near me they talked about some of it and that's where I learned that not every tradtion or practice sees it as wrong.)

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depends on ones tradition and or culture too. while I do not practice Vodou/Voodoo or even Hoodoo I have friends that do and when they lived near me they talked about some of it and that's where I learned that not every tradtion or practice sees it as wrong.

I hardly doubt that within the mentioned traditions (or any that I know of) the sexual orientation is important. This is all I am saying. "Gender roles" are not at all comparable to suggesting how to manage a spell for someone of a specific sexual orientation. One may choose to "play" any of the roles if they see fit. This is about the extent of it.

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Lord Ferocia wrote:
depends on ones tradition and or culture too. while I do not practice Vodou/Voodoo or even Hoodoo I have friends that do and when they lived near me they talked about some of it and that's where I learned that not every tradtion or practice sees it as wrong.

I hardly doubt that within the mentioned traditions (or any that I know of) the sexual orientation is important. This is all I am saying. "Gender roles" are not at all comparable to suggesting how to manage a spell for someone of a specific sexual orientation. One may choose to "play" any of the roles if they see fit. This is about the extent of it.

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In hoodoo there are root workers that do tailor spells to the sexual orientation.

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In hoodoo there are root workers that do tailor spells to the sexual orientation.
I admit I am not familiar with Hoodoo. However, this is quite different than most systems I am speaking about and am familiar with. I feel regardless one could still be effective without needing to tailor anything. Just my humble opinion.

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Lord Ferocia wrote:
In hoodoo there are root workers that do tailor spells to the sexual orientation.
I admit I am not familiar with Hoodoo. However, this is quite different than most systems I am speaking about and am familiar with. I feel regardless one could still be effective without needing to tailor anything. Just my humble opinion.

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I decided to just write my own spell ,use it and see what happens and if I have to modify anything about it. [thumbup]

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Personally written spells are usually the best.
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RoseRed wrote:Personally written spells are usually the best.

true [thumbup]

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I know this was weeks ago, but your exposure to Hoodoo certainly has exposed you to candles specifically designed for these sorts of things? The old Adam/Eve candle has gotten updated in previous decades and one can now find Adam/Steve figure candles. Also, nothing grabs the attention of a man more than what grabs the attention of his libido. A phallus candle inscribed with his name and burned along with the spell (Hoodoo or not) would garner some attention. And some of these candles can be quite...*ahem*...large...>.> <.<...let's leave that one alone...so I guess that would also factor into the psychopomp of your spell work to get his attention in a "big" way. ;)

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so I guess that would also factor into the psychopomp of your spell work to get his attention in a "big" way. ;)
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Psychopomp--pageantry associated with psychological methods of lowering intellectual skepticism and doubt during ritual to bring about heightened states of awareness more easily. It's something I used to engage in with much of my practice when I first started, but don't rely on any more except in the most extreme circumstances. I view it as more a training tool than anything else until you can get your mind and your spirit through the veil more easily without it, but it can also be applied as a sociological/anthropological label to the pageantry and theatrical expressionism associated with more elaborate ritual, a la GD, Gardnerian and Alexandrian Wicca, Reconstructionism, etc.

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That's just pomp.

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You may want to consider accepting him for who he is and on terms based on mutual respect and dignity. As Rosebed asks; what do you want from him? Some of the most powerful spells of attraction are the ones we use on ourselves.

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What you need is to just cast a love spell on him, connect your energy well and don't even think of him as a guy but rather someone that your truly love, with that approach, you can even make him to stop being a gay and stick with you.

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