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What is it?

Yes, physically it is a means to reproduce to further the species. But I assume there is more to it than that, ya?

What is it on a spiritual level, an energetic level, a magical level?

What is an orgasm?

I'm not talking in a funny or obvious sense... but it a deeper, behind the scenes way. Anyone have opinions or insights?
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I do a secondary post as to not take away from the main topic, but for me they are tied, though I hope to not distract.

What occult, energetic, spiritual reasons would cause a muted orgasm. This has happened to me, seemingly out of the blue and has been consistent for many weeks now. I'm more curious than worried by it. It is similar to a sneeze that winds you up and then disappears without the satisfaction of it's release.

Energetically speaking... it doesn't make it up my spine and out the top of my head. It disperses into nothing on it's way up like a balloon whose air is let out, even when I focus on it's direction.
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Energetically, the orgasm can be viewed as a yang vortex energetic dynamic through which Yuan Qi is gathered from the parents and brings about a yin creative physical manifestation. All fetal development begins at Mingmen, which is the physical point from which all other organs grow. The act of sex itself can be seen in a variety of ways according to Chinese meds and such. The energetic value of it depends on the state of the practitioners. Ideally, sex is a union on the deepest levels of our physicality as well as energetically. Physically, it is our sole purpose. Energetically it can be used for a variety of both beneficial or destructive purposes. It is unfortunate that so many tend to gravitate toward the latter. These are just my thoughts and certainly not everything that can be said on the subject.

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manofsands wrote:I do a secondary post as to not take away from the main topic, but for me they are tied, though I hope to not distract.

What occult, energetic, spiritual reasons would cause a muted orgasm. This has happened to me, seemingly out of the blue and has been consistent for many weeks now. I'm more curious than worried by it. It is similar to a sneeze that winds you up and then disappears without the satisfaction of it's release.

Energetically speaking... it doesn't make it up my spine and out the top of my head. It disperses into nothing on it's way up like a balloon whose air is let out, even when I focus on it's direction.
There can be several reasons for this. Does it occur around the same time each day? consider other factors such as stress, diet, fatigue, or simply that you may not be focusing mentally. You would be well advised to visit your acupuncturist in this regard. The problem is common and discussing it with him or her can help you narrow down some specifics and begin to treat them. Regular exercise often helps with this as well.

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Orgasm regulates energy metabolism in the body and is characterized by involuntary pelvic contractions and temporary loss of conciousness. If that's not happening, it's most likely due to muscular armoring (tightness) which has become chronic and is blocking the flow of energy in the body.
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It can be a rather intense means of sending up a spark into the universe or of achieving gnosis for a working, if you are of a mind to want to do so.
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manofsands wrote:I do a secondary post as to not take away from the main topic, but for me they are tied, though I hope to not distract.

What occult, energetic, spiritual reasons would cause a muted orgasm. This has happened to me, seemingly out of the blue and has been consistent for many weeks now. I'm more curious than worried by it. It is similar to a sneeze that winds you up and then disappears without the satisfaction of it's release.

Energetically speaking... it doesn't make it up my spine and out the top of my head. It disperses into nothing on it's way up like a balloon whose air is let out, even when I focus on it's direction.

Assuming you're a man, the intensity of your orgasm is usually dependent upon the amount of semen you're ejaculating.

Increasing the pressure can increase the intensity.

Try not having sex or masturbating for 7 days. Eat food that promotes the production of semen.


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Sex is an act of creation, an act of defiance. The wrong and the right, duality. It's the completion of a circuit, which was previously a set of potentials.

Creation comes at the junction of opposites.

I think my personal issue comes from being disconnected from my source,... but not.
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manofsands wrote:Sex is an act of creation, an act of defiance. The wrong and the right, duality. It's the completion of a circuit, which was previously a set of potentials.

Creation comes at the junction of opposites.

I think my personal issue comes from being disconnected from my source,... but not.
So are you incapable of orgasm? Or is it that your orgasm is unsatisfactory?

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I have orgasms, but they deflate. The usual reverse waterfall, the energy that had started at the root and shot up my spine... 'deflates' on its way up,.. like there is a hole in the column... and disperses before barely getting started.

The change came with no physical or mental change (that I can attribute). I feel fine and I'm not stressed. I have no problem achieving, the results have just changed, hence my wonder of the occult/energetic side.
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This is a critical topic for me because I'm trying to figure out ways to weave sex drive, sexuality, and self-development together. I look at our world and so many of our problems come from not having sublimative or positive outlets for urges, sexuality seems like it's easily the most potent drive we have if not very close second or third. It makes me wonder - people have all kinds of advice on how a person can get their house in order on all kinds of psychological levels but any concrete up, down, etc. when it comes to the application of sexuality is a place where you seem to have utter silence out in the working/secular world, any kind of philosophic or humanistic mentoring material is dealing with veneer issues at best, and apparently the answer to this on the occult level is one that the mysteries are too concerned with the ramifications of teaching in more open forum.
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I'm not well-versed enough to objectively tell you what sex is on those levels, and you will probably get a different answer from every person so perhaps you should figure out what it means to you, but i think it can be used as a way to build a lot energy if done in a certain way.
I've been practicing having an orgasm without ejaculating with varied success, and i've found that i have more energy at my disposal and my mind becomes very clear, and longer i have sex the more i start to go into an altered state as if I was in a deep meditation, or like I had taken something mind-altering.

Just my experience with an aspect of it.

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Another thing I keep thinking about, particularly for those single on the Hermetic and wiccan/neopagan paths who want to use their sexuality and turn it inward, aren't there other ways of using it than on incubi/succubi? It's the most well known topic for course on these lines, just that I'm aware that it's the sexual version of curing boredom with athlete's foot.

Aren't there other kinds of paramours? Can't something akin to sexual tantra be used as a form of meditation for really drawing down the other worlds or finding ones self a tour-guide and teacher of preference on the inner planes? Part of why I bring this up is I started playing with this line of exploration before I even really understood what it was or what I was doing and it's exactly how I obtained most of my transcendental experiences. To say this is the dirty corner of the bathroom floor seems arbitrarily Catholic when its esotericists discussing the matter.
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This brings up a question immediately off of last post - has anyone played with or put attempts into obtaining orgasm strictly by imagination and repetition of selected imagery? Did any interesting results accompany it?
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Cybernetic_Jazz wrote:This brings up a question immediately off of last post - has anyone played with or put attempts into obtaining orgasm strictly by imagination and repetition of selected imagery? Did any interesting results accompany it?
I think thats called a wet dream ;)

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What is an orgasm?

It is the end of innocence.

I would suggest a good way to share " love or sex " is to have a special prepared oil for the spinal cords if active.

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Twinights wrote:I'm not well-versed enough to objectively tell you what sex is on those levels, and you will probably get a different answer from every person so perhaps you should figure out what it means to you, but i think it can be used as a way to build a lot energy if done in a certain way.
I've been practicing having an orgasm without ejaculating with varied success, and i've found that i have more energy at my disposal and my mind becomes very clear, and longer i have sex the more i start to go into an altered state as if I was in a deep meditation, or like I had taken something mind-altering.

Just my experience with an aspect of it.

I can agree on this. From my experience, delaying orgasm has many benefits, whether it is more energy, clearer mind, or longer duration in bed. Altered states? Maybe one time, when I got into a no-mind state and lost consciousness of what was happening for few seconds.

But what I have read somewhere on the internet, it can be used for many different things (charging sigils, items, talismans, giving this energy to yourself etc.). Exploration starting point is to get rid of all the entertainment, be it your mind, magazines, videos, and observe meditatively (without judgement, thoughts) while you masturbate.

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