What are your spiritual views on pornography?
What are your spiritual views on pornography?
What are your spiritual views on pornography?
Lets face it: Sexuality is one of the most powerful forces driving mankind. In my view we have watered down on of the most basic of human needs into a form of low and shameful forms of entertainment until the point we cant even talk about it. Is this why women dress like prostitutes and act like shameless gold diggers and men get medicated and whatnot for reacting to it sexually as though that was the end goal of the former/latter?
In ancient culture, SEX (yes i said it god damn it), wasn't considered dirty or weird but something inherent in human nature and therefore had to be embraced as something sacred and spiritual (that means abuse of it would be considered evil or heretical, like rape for instance), and not something you go to youporn, pornhub, xvideos, redtube and other shady parts of the internet or redlight district or whatnot to get a quick fix like you were a heroin or crack dealer or something.
You know what? I choose to fucking embrace it. I dont care, this is what it is. Music videos on TV are bordeline softcore pornographic, kids everywhere are getting younger and younger facing internet porn and sexuality, and people are getting secretly more and more perverted despite our best efforts to conceal the interaction of the jade caves and the unsheathed spear. I dont give a fuck. Even though i couldn't and ant, and probably wouldn't dare to speak about it in public, and tell that hot chick what the fuck i would like to do to her hypocrite g-string barely covered tight ass and tits without people in white coats rushing towards the scene within 15 minutes, because of the systematic suppression of this phenomena, i fucking admit it. I wanna fuck. Does it matter? You don't wanna fuck? Have you been castrated? No? Then you do. I don't care if the world ends, i don't care who gets dragged in, this is your fucking problem, not mine, it's the truth, deal with it. Unless you live in a monastery, everyone needs to STFU or say it like it is and stop being two-face about it.
As my math teacher once wisely uttered: There are two types of people in this world, the ones that admit to have watched porn, and the ones who don't.
Bonus question: What is the difference between the consequences for females and males from the industrialization/capitalization of humans wanting-to-do-it and the cheap pornogrophization of human nature. What will the long term consequences be and in which different ways will each gender suffer or benefit from it?
Lets face it: Sexuality is one of the most powerful forces driving mankind. In my view we have watered down on of the most basic of human needs into a form of low and shameful forms of entertainment until the point we cant even talk about it. Is this why women dress like prostitutes and act like shameless gold diggers and men get medicated and whatnot for reacting to it sexually as though that was the end goal of the former/latter?
In ancient culture, SEX (yes i said it god damn it), wasn't considered dirty or weird but something inherent in human nature and therefore had to be embraced as something sacred and spiritual (that means abuse of it would be considered evil or heretical, like rape for instance), and not something you go to youporn, pornhub, xvideos, redtube and other shady parts of the internet or redlight district or whatnot to get a quick fix like you were a heroin or crack dealer or something.
You know what? I choose to fucking embrace it. I dont care, this is what it is. Music videos on TV are bordeline softcore pornographic, kids everywhere are getting younger and younger facing internet porn and sexuality, and people are getting secretly more and more perverted despite our best efforts to conceal the interaction of the jade caves and the unsheathed spear. I dont give a fuck. Even though i couldn't and ant, and probably wouldn't dare to speak about it in public, and tell that hot chick what the fuck i would like to do to her hypocrite g-string barely covered tight ass and tits without people in white coats rushing towards the scene within 15 minutes, because of the systematic suppression of this phenomena, i fucking admit it. I wanna fuck. Does it matter? You don't wanna fuck? Have you been castrated? No? Then you do. I don't care if the world ends, i don't care who gets dragged in, this is your fucking problem, not mine, it's the truth, deal with it. Unless you live in a monastery, everyone needs to STFU or say it like it is and stop being two-face about it.
As my math teacher once wisely uttered: There are two types of people in this world, the ones that admit to have watched porn, and the ones who don't.
Bonus question: What is the difference between the consequences for females and males from the industrialization/capitalization of humans wanting-to-do-it and the cheap pornogrophization of human nature. What will the long term consequences be and in which different ways will each gender suffer or benefit from it?
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As you have wisely said it is a strong force here.
Just know who is the master and who the slave. Does it drive you or do you use it?
Just know who is the master and who the slave. Does it drive you or do you use it?
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There's nothing inherently wrong with sexuality. It is demonised because social conventions seek to control it, as it is such a powerful force and can cause people to run wild. As LoneWolf has said though, if you seek to get the most out of the occult, and actualise your true potential you need to focus on the eternal subject, what is within your own conciousness. Sex is an external object, and external objects shouldn't be chased after.
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There is a world of difference between sexuality and pornography.Daud wrote:There's nothing inherently wrong with sexuality. It is demonised because social conventions seek to control it, as it is such a powerful force and can cause people to run wild. As LoneWolf has said though, if you seek to get the most out of the occult, and actualise your true potential you need to focus on the eternal subject, what is within your own conciousness. Sex is an external object, and external objects shouldn't be chased after.
If sex is an external object, you're doing it wrong.
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Sex, and the desire for sex is one of the hungers. It is classified as an external hinderance... Pornography is usually attributed to the desire for sex, and quelling it.
Sexual energy can be used to attain higher states, but that's not about sex, it's about channeling and transforming the energy.
Sexual energy can be used to attain higher states, but that's not about sex, it's about channeling and transforming the energy.
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Y'all funny to me sometimes.
In ancient cultures
...oh really?people are secretly getting more and more perverted
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If by sex you mean fucking, then yes. It's just energy and release.Daud wrote:Sex, and the desire for sex is one of the hungers. It is classified as an external hinderance...
Sexual energy can be used to attain higher states, but that's not about sex, it's about channeling and transforming the energy.
What I'm talking about is making love to a partner that you trust, respect and deeply love. Something that grows out of years. That transcends far beyond some basic biological function.
But yes, according to buddhism it is a hindrance. But then again, he abandoned his family and thought that women where just lustful, sinful beings that couldn't be trusted.
In the end, it comes down to personal choice. I would rather make love to my wife then sit under a tree for a decade to achieve enlightenment. But that's probably because I don't believe in reincarnation and all that stuff. If this life is all we have, we might as well seek out that which makes us feel most alive.
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It's a very "modern" way of thinking. Because upper class Victorian England and puritan America was somewhat sexually repressed, it as sometimes viewed as all of history being were modest about sex and pornography. And the 20th century is often seemed as a sexual revolution or at least individual progress. Every generation believes that they are the latest evolution in human behavior and that we are somehow in uncharted territory.the_spiral wrote:Y'all funny to me sometimes.
In ancient cultures...oh really?people are secretly getting more and more perverted
The amount of pornography produced in ancient time is enough to make most modern blush. Especially when we consider homosexuality and prostitution is still being looked down on in many societies. Not to mention pedophilia, bestiality and all other sorts of acts that makes us uncomfortable today. And of which there is no lack of in ancient cultures, art and religion.
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The original question was about porn, not about sex. Porn's boring full stop. When you've seen one porn film you've seen them all. It's only half arousing and even then only for about five minutes. Spiritually, porn is bad for you. A person who uses it regularly is like someone who drinks beer too often. They're not going to make progress. It's a morass to get sucked into and caught by.
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What? Makes sense to me. If you don't have the lower parts covered, you won't have time or energy for the higher parts. There is a name for that pyramid, it's like the hierarchy of human needs or something.
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It doesn't make sense. Why would there be any hierarchy? Pyramids just create a dissolution of ONE, a false perception some parts of ONE are higher than others, some are more important than others. And when your "higher" spiritual self disassociates from physical self, you are not ONE, your are just collection of loosely attached parts and that is not right. I believe. Strongly. And passionately.chowderpope wrote:What? Makes sense to me. If you don't have the lower parts covered, you won't have time or energy for the higher parts. There is a name for that pyramid, it's like the hierarchy of human needs or something.
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I see what you mean. I don't think the pyramid represents a split of the self necessarily, but just a ranking of human needs. Like, I am not going to read Shakespeare if I haven't eaten all day. First I'm going to go eat. Wait, then I have to shit. Well, I will take the book into the bathroom to read. So eventually I get to read my book, but not before my more primal needs are met.
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But you can prioritise. You can suppress and ignore "primal" needs for the time being for some other more important needs. You just prioritise food and shitting over reading some book. Do you actually NEED to read that book?chowderpope wrote:I see what you mean. I don't think the pyramid represents a split of the self necessarily, but just a ranking of human needs. Like, I am not going to read Shakespeare if I haven't eaten all day. First I'm going to go eat. Wait, then I have to shit. Well, I will take the book into the bathroom to read. So eventually I get to read my book, but not before my more primal needs are met.
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You don't have to prioritize things according to that pyramid, but if you don't your life may suffer in one area or another. I actually really like that pyramid, it puts things in perspective.
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I really don't like pyramids, I've never seen them anywhere in any settings, "hell or heavens", in any form or shape, except once, and that one time was a very negative encounter.chowderpope wrote:You don't have to prioritize things according to that pyramid, but if you don't your life may suffer in one area or another. I actually really like that pyramid, it puts things in perspective.
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