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Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:44 pm
by violetflame
Does anyone have any idea what the origins of either of the attached documents are? I believe the language in the first document is some form of latin but I wasn't able to translate all the words. The runes at the bottom of the second document translate to either "Rork Helena," "Rorik Helena," or "Rori Helena," I can't quite tell with how the last letter of the first word is written. Unfortunately I can't say where I got these from as I simply forget, I've had them on my computer for years. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:58 am
by Hound
Looks similar to the Book of Kells.

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:37 pm
by ErebusNamtar
Hard to read copies but top is definitely Latin, some runes interwoven and the bottom main text is one hundred percent Old German. I can clearly read some words though the copy makes my eyes hurt as the letters sort of "dance" around as they are doubled up and vague. If there was a larger and clearer print I could read it no problem!
Just let me know if you have one and that mystery will be solved.

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:51 am
by violetflame
Hound wrote:Looks similar to the Book of Kells.
This is correct, it is the 15th plate to be specific and is the first of three parts of the genealogy of Jesus Christ. http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/bok/bok19.htm
ErebusNamtar wrote:Hard to read copies but top is definitely Latin, some runes interwoven and the bottom main text is one hundred percent Old German. I can clearly read some words though the copy makes my eyes hurt as the letters sort of "dance" around as they are doubled up and vague. If there was a larger and clearer print I could read it no problem!
Just let me know if you have one and that mystery will be solved.
I may be able to acquire a higher resolution version, I'll let you know soon.

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:14 am
by Shawn Blackwolf
"it is the 15th plate to be specific and is the first of three parts of the genealogy of Jesus Christ. http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/bok/bok19.htm"

Supposed genealogy of some supposed person...let's be real here , not buy into some possibly created mythology... [thumbup]

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:43 am
by ErebusNamtar
Shawn Blackwolf wrote:Supposed genealogy of some supposed person...let's be real here , not buy into some possibly created mythology... [thumbup]
That explains the little text I can read at the bottom one which goes on about some supposed King and loyal service to a Royal family.

@violetflame; hope you are able to get it. My partner is a paper conservator and we both love reading the texts on old documents.

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:02 pm
by Shawn Blackwolf
Just to be clear...

You believe a person called Jesus Christ actually existed ?

I have Templar Blood from southern France , mixed with
Celtic bloodlines...we know the code the whole story came
from , and don't believe it was real , one bit... [wink]

All an invented mythology , to change a paradigm... [thumbup]

Re: Need Help Identifying Strange Documents

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:32 am
by ErebusNamtar
If you were referring to me...nope, not one bit. I'm an atheist and do not believe in deities at all.