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One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:15 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
I've noticed that while we have a fair amount of people here who talk about the One Year Manual and the quality of what it offers that there hasn't been a dedicated thread so far.

The overall idea of the book is pretty simple - twelve sets of exercises are to be performed over twelve periods, the minimum suggested time being a month each but you can choose to go longer with some based on your own individual sense of need. I'll follow up in this thread as I move through my own regimen. Anyone else is welcome to offer their own pointers on how their work went or what they might suggest as options to those starting on certain steps.

To run down the list real quick:

I - Body Awareness - 2 x 10 minutes daily
II - Relaxation - 2 x 2 minutes jump rope followed by qi-qong'ish breathing exercise and 30 minutes progressive relaxation.
III - Rhythmic Breathing - 2 x 10 minutes breath mantram
IV - Mind Awareness - 2 x 30 minutes talking your thoughts out into a recording
V - Concentration, Use of Mantram - 2 x ?? (10 minutes seems suggested but latitude for longer given) or breath mantram - same time and place, more deliberate focus
VI - Developing the Will - Gnana yoga with shock buzzer, exercise is perpetual
VII - The Rose Cross Ritual - practice cross and then perform twice daily for entire month or phase.
VIII - The Middle Pillar Ritual - Intense description noted, no quantity per day suggested which suggests minimum of once with twice optional
IX - Symbol of Devotion - Bhakti yoga - lavish attention on divine symbol.
X - Practice of the Presence of God - Meditation on the spatial emptiness of matter and ether interpenetrating everything.
XI - Unity - All is God
XII - Invoke Often! Inflame Thyself with Prayer


Correct me if I'm wrong, and I realize that I just skimmed to try getting times for the later four exercises, but it seems like he does less time setting and more of leaving it up to the user of the manual to determine what's right for them. After all the first several months seem to be aimed at cultivating enough self-awareness for the person to be able to figure out what they need.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:39 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
My current plan as of today:

I've been taking some advice since I started, mainly by way of something I gleaned from Mark Stavish's lectures, that I might consider taking 40 to 42 days (ie. the alchemical month) to properly cement each exercise in. to make it easier to keep track of time I decided to make it a full month and a half for each exercise.

So far I'm nearing the end of Step IV.

Some notes on my own experience of these:

I - Useful entry practice. It was good for gaining discipline over my body and being able to sit still on demand.

II - This I noticed the most profound impact from. Your mind won't be injecting nearly as much noise as usual because it's dedicated to relaxing each muscle group that you're visualizing. Rather than thinking of it as necessarily vessel dilation and blood flow your rather quickly get to know what the feeling is like and it takes on the sense of something more akin to an energy work of sorts. That said this one is a whole 70 minutes of your day usually, asks that you do imaginary jump rope for two minutes before hand, so it's probably the most time and effort prohibitive. If you have a busy month though just tell yourself that you'll wake up early, get it done for a month (or however long you want to do it) and get it done.

On a side note - it's good to make a sound track for this. If you can grab a cheap wave editor, start with an empty audio track that's a little over 30 minutes long (enough lead in, maybe 20 seconds, to get settled) and at intervals after your bumper margine place a sample of some type to let you know when you've passed the 10 minute mark, 20 minute mark, and reached completion. I found that with this schema I was somewhere on my neck (either sides or back) if I had this timed right for the first 10 minute marker and that I was around my lower back or obliques on the 2nd marker.

III - Having some quaint amount of musical ability I actually made a beat for this one. It was a a two-part 4/4 beat with 7 ticks and a hard pause at the end, using some sistrum samples and little bit of other kodo'ish stuff I readied the mantrum 'Lady of ten thousand names" on my inhale, "Lead me to thy sacred flame" on the exhale. As far as the results of this exercise - I felt a little bit of something with regard to my lungs but nothing profound enough to be super-memorable. I pondered taking longer on it but realized that with this stuff you never know how it will work, whether something will work as expected, so I decided to let it go and see if this progresses into a more notable result in step V.

IV - I'm about 35 days into this now. Truthfully I can't tell anyone how to do this one right because I have no clue how to do it right myself. I've done it to the best of my ability twice daily, my only exception actually being this weekend where I was out of town from Friday evening until Sunday morning with friends and didn't have the facilities to follow up. I used a headset, opened up a blank wav in Goldwave, and began talking into the headset as thoughts came up.

My steepest challenge with this exercise; when i stop thinking manually I literally stop thinking. The exercise as Regardie describes it seems to be geared along similar lines to Franz Bardon's thought-watching exercise in IIH Step I. I my case, whether it's a fluke of biology or something else, I hardly get a thing when I stop thinking. This lead me to do the best I could with what I have and treat this as a stream of consciousness where instead of necessarily waiting for autonomous thoughts to come up I either let myself muse on the thoughts, concerns, or ideas that came to mind as I was sitting and to some extent I just let a sort of ADD run. If sitting perfectly still was a necessity I don't think I followed this one to a T, partly because letting my mind run like this encouraged me to get as comfortable in a position as I could for as long as I was still comfortable, to get into a more comfortable position if the situation demanded, etc.. and there were plenty of times I found myself checking my time on the recording program. At first I was using a stopwatch but this exercised seemed to get increasingly lenient over time and if anything it caused some minor problems with some of my other meditations, that is while staring at my tarot cards for BOTA I found myself getting ADD, talking my thoughts out loud, and realizing somewhat embarrassed that I was setting habits in this exercise that were spreading out into other meditations.

As it is I don't know that I'll be continuing this exercise (ie. Step IV) past the end of the month - I was already an expert at laying in bed or lounging in my computer chair, staring at the ceiling, and talking to myself, God, my dog, or whoever on the unseen would listen. Taking deliberate action with this exercise might have continued to help depressurize my subconscious and I see some signs of diminished intensity, ie. it's like my private space, as I experience it on waking and sleep, got 'darker', a bit like a lot of the clutter in my inner-space started red-shifting out on me.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:54 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
On a side note there is one radical departure from the program that I'm considering.

I'm toying with the idea of adding an exercise of my own between step VI (ie. Gnana yoga) and step VII (Rose Cross Ritual). It's the Triple Cypher exercise from Chapter 2 of William G Gray's Magical Ritual Methods. A few reasons I'm considering this: 1) I was that impressed when I read it and the implications of what it could offer 2) It seems like it would be a great segue between the Gnana yoga and the hermetic ritual section of OYM 3) It looks like it would offer a lot of support and intensity to both the Rose Cross Ritual and the Middle Pillar.

Thus my upcoming regimen might look like this:

...
V - Concentration, Use of Mantram (April 1st - May 15th)
VI - Developing the Will (May 16th - June 30th)
VI-A Triple Cypher (July 1st - August 15th)
VII - The Rose Cross Ritual (August 16th - September 30th)
VIII - The Middle Pillar Ritual (October 1st - Novermber 15th).
...

No idea if that schedule will match reality 100% as I'm willing to extend any of these exercises in the interem if needed. My biggest lingering question actually is probably the one most people will have who are relatively new rather than veteran practitioners - ie. how do you tell the difference between an exercise not doing a whole lot just based on personal neurotype vs. needing to extend it outward for additional months? That's one that I'm still wrestling with, trying to apply intuition toward it as best I can but I realize that's an imperfect tool and really depends on experience with these kinds of things.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:52 pm
by Matrozs
I think one should persevere with every step for as long as one thinks it a necessity . Regardie does not state any benchmarks from where the practicioner should move on to the next step , a big fault compared to other systems (if you consider Regardie's One Year Manual as a standalone system) is the obvious lack of any signs of progress .
Regardie does set a predetermined amount of time for the practice of each exercise , yet one should wonder if every person can adhere to his standards . As we all know , every person is different and the time span needed for the fruition of every exercise is dependent on the individual . If one has success with one exercise , by doing it for 3,4 or even 5 months then he succeeded and he should move one. Moving foward prematurely is not only a waste of time , but of effort as well .
I also think Regardie wrote this treatise for the complete beginner or as a side practice for a more well rounded system.

I also have problems with watching my thoughts when ''not thinking''' . If one has achieved some success in mental discipline , he finds that he doesn't have much to see .

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:16 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
Matrozs wrote:Moving foward prematurely is not only a waste of time , but of effort as well .
I'd love to see if we can shake some of that out as the thread progresses.

A good example is with the breath. I often hear that you can get higher than a kite with enough rhythmic breathing experience, just that I don't have a context as to just how much mastery is needed as a basis for each of the next step in this particular program. He made some comments about the Middle Pillar - that people clearly wouldn't master this one in a month or even six months and that's fine if a person can go through the course, get the results they're supposed to on step twelve, and go back and properly put in the years that they'd need to master the Middle Pillar. Otherwise anyone practicing this one implicitly would be trying to pack 20 years of isht in a one or two year bag - complements of the author's general suggestion that it's a one or two year system.

I'd agree with you though that if you tried doing this alone for a year you'd get thoroughly bored. It's like starting AMORC - the payoff may be decent by the time you finish your 9th or 12th temple degree but there's so much tedium and hang-time in the voyage to get there that you'd really rather have some other material you're working on or another order you're working with that dishes out lesson plan in a more intense manner while treating the first as a supplementary to the second.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:31 pm
by Matrozs
When I was contemplating the notion of the One Year Manual being a side practice for another system I could not skip over the obvious issues of compatibility .
Although there are obvious eastern influences in this particular work , one may wonder if the serious yoga practicioner can , or rather , should use this system .
The fact that many yogic systems are complete on their own and one can achieve their goal through the practice of a sole system (from the perspective of a western magus) is up to debate and are out of the scope of this thread .
If Regardie ment it as a side practice , or at least was thinking of such a posibility , one should ask whom whas it written for . When this work was written yoga in the west was not yet a thing and Regardie being directly influenced by Crowley seeked to introduce in his system these not so popular concepts. It is clear that Regardie's system is one for raising awarness (only?).
Now, what I am arguing about is the prospect of these exercises slowing and hindering the progress made in another system . I find that there should be none of these problems for a system like the one used by AMORC ( as you said ) , but attemptimg to raise kundalini and doing intense internal alchemy whilist doing the Middle Pillar and then yogic practices I find disruptive. A system is something delicate and combining two can be rather harsh on the practicioner . (I realise I am not so directly talking about the exercises as you were hoping , but since this is a discussion about the One Year Manual it still fits in . I wrote a little too much , but still did not include some points , perhaps some other people can pop in as well .)

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:51 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
They're still thoughtful comments though and that's always appreciated.

In my own boat what I'm trying to do is clear some of the thatch that's in my way on this particular path. I still find myself not 100% sure whether I really believe that there's a 'supernatural' component to this stuff or whether what comes of this is simply wiring new and novel forms of chemical cascade together in the brain. With my own experiences so far, a couple of the more interesting ones being things like the experience of a glow at the top of my head and a cascade of energy or seeming entrance of an external consciousness down through the soles of my feet, it's very difficult to tell with certainty whether that's solid evidence of dealing with an entity or something that nerves, neurotransmitters, and subconscious can accomplish on their own with no spooky action either up close or at a distance required. Unfortunately our scientific knowledge of subjective experience is so poor at this stage in the game that people can say almost anything about what they brain is capable of (especially how much data the brain can hold) and get away with it and credulity in both idealistic and materialistic directions abounds to some crazy orders of magnitude. To go with Novella or Hameroff? It seems like a decision one can't educate themselves enough to make unless by having their own experiences to validate one or the other.

I'm hoping if I don't notice some very particular results of the variety that Israel Regardie is suggesting by the end of these that I'll at least pick up another system - whether Bardon or something else along those lines - where I can flush this out and feel like I'm on firmer ground without the feeling that I need to wall off facts with faith in favor of either pantheism or materialism.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:48 pm
by CCoburn
Cybernetic_Jazz wrote: I still find myself not 100% sure whether I really believe that there's a 'supernatural' component to this stuff or whether what comes of this is simply wiring new and novel forms of chemical cascade together in the brain.
I almost feel the same way, but for me it's more of believing in a Supernatural component(s).
But then i'm left still with the question of how much interaction(from this world) I can have with it.

A really intense and coherent audio or visual manifestation would seal it for me.

I've had much moderately engaged phenomena both within and without.
But in a way, I am also left wondering at times. Coincidence? Etc.

When my experience is taken as a whole, I am almost 100% convinced,
and it's more than enough to keep me going. Not sure why your practice hasn't generated
any external phenomena, or have never heard it mentioned, or don't recall. For me it's been a little
over a year now.

H.P. Blavatsky gives some good arguments in the Secret Doctrine as to why the Supernatural is
needed. A lot to do with our solar system.

Einstein was a Deist,
Cheers

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:14 am
by Cybernetic_Jazz
Quick update:

I decided to change things up a bit.

I had a new job start in April that was sketchy enough that I didn't dare attempt the Jnana yoga in the normal sense (ie. cutting or shocking). I decided for the clemency of the situation to go with the Triple Cypher instead from mid-May thru the end of this past month. It's a very short ritual, takes maybe 5 minutes per iteration (I perhaps could have drawn it out but I'm not sure if that's necessarily the ticker or not). I enjoyed working it and I seemed to develop my own analogies to what filling a sphere of Azoth could look like if my subconscious tried to translate it into visual terms (which I'm sure it could never do completely being that it simply isn't a paradigm of this world). Having the inside of the sphere darken a bit and almost have a hard drop at the edges into normal air seemed like it communicated the idea effectively.

I'm maybe a week into doing the Rose Cross ritual twice daily. I have a lot of expensive computer hardware in my room and since I realized it wouldn't be good for me to be lighting incense twice daily I've gone more toward doing that in the evening before sleep (when the air conditioning is off) and at other times using a rose-scented candle while working with the remainder of one of the incense sticks from the previous night. Israel Regardie mentioned to take this one slow, I don't know if it can really be drawn out much longer than ten minutes however (ie. between first and last prayer) - I mean that just because there's only so long you can hold an intonation and the rest of the process will keep flow with that. This then leaves 20-25 minutes for the four-fold breath.

If anyone has any thoughts or comments share as always - again, whether I'm doing it or wrong (feel free to opine if I've got it all arse-backward :) ), I'm hoping to get some 21st century guideposts together. While I really doubt this needs the kind of exegesis that IIH got between Rawn Clark and Fr. Veos it still seems like the kind of book that people are likely to take in splitting the difference between, say, Bardon and something like Modern Magick. It also seems like it would be a great adjunct to College of Thelema.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:57 am
by Cybernetic_Jazz
As of today I'm a couple weeks from competing Step 9.

To say something about Step 8 briefly - Middle Pillar twice daily, I was able to do that for about a month and it was around that time on a particular Monday where at lunch time it seemed like the whole weight of my subconscious was saying 'Do you want to end up in the ER? If not stop doing this exercise". Even toward the end of that month, even just doing the four-fold breath at a reasonable pace I felt like I came close to passing out several times. I'm not sure what all of that means; I'm sure part of that might have been how I was intuitively synching up the breathing, just that I'd have to venture a guess that if I go back to doing MP regularly I'd probably make it a point to just do it once per day instead.

I would tell anyone to specifically not follow directions and to just do it once a day, just that I'd emphasize listen to your body as you're doing it and put your ego aside in doing so even if you feel a bit embarrassed at having to do so (it's really a race with yourself not anyone else).

The other thing - Step 9 has been the toughest for me to keep up with and it's partly because there's no set meditation - it's really about building enough pairings to build a habitual base of reverence for a symbol. Somewhat sadly I get the impulse to remember maybe two, three, or four times a day. The trouble is that my life is quite busy, I'm typically staying cognitively engaged with one activity or another, so consequently my spaces between activities can be tough to recognize and fill because they'll usually be rather short and my mind will still be going on whatever task I was just doing. If I were going to give anyone advice based on what I feel like I'm doing wrong with this - make it a force of habit perhaps to envision your symbol or target on awakening, on going to bed, and at meals - that makes a pattern of at least four or five times gratis, and slowly bring in other regular activities like your ride or drive to or back from work, making your morning coffee, etc. etc.

I'll try to follow my own advice for the next few weeks and see if I can squeeze better out of myself.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:38 pm
by Abyss
Cybernetic_Jazz wrote:As of today I'm a couple weeks from competing Step 9.

To say something about Step 8 briefly - Middle Pillar twice daily, I was able to do that for about a month and it was around that time on a particular Monday where at lunch time it seemed like the whole weight of my subconscious was saying 'Do you want to end up in the ER? If not stop doing this exercise". Even toward the end of that month, even just doing the four-fold breath at a reasonable pace I felt like I came close to passing out several times. I'm not sure what all of that means; I'm sure part of that might have been how I was intuitively synching up the breathing, just that I'd have to venture a guess that if I go back to doing MP regularly I'd probably make it a point to just do it once per day instead.

I'll try to follow my own advice for the next few weeks and see if I can squeeze better out of myself.
Hi Cybernetic_Jazz, this is a very interesting thread and thank you for taking the time to share your experiences. This seems to be a lot of work and commend you on your determination. Have you felt any internal shifts? For self have found that meditation is so important in any discipline, meditation is also considered prayer in many ancient writings. Know that many practices say to do this and that to quiet the mind, but actually quieting of the mind is changing consciousness (second attention if Shamanism) and becoming more aware. One may think less but more efficiently, thoughts flow and is not based on actually thinking of the physical mind. Focusing on the now experiences of your day, is an excellent way of becoming more aware. Just my two cents, spend wisely. [smile]

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:10 pm
by Cybernetic_Jazz
I have felt shifts but it's in a particular zone that I really don't see as commonly until I'm in deep meditation - then it becomes particularly noticeable. Also, just last night at my AMORC group, I noticed a relative change in myself and where I am in terms of group dynamics in terms of getting the answers I always wanted about the universe (I think where this really jumped out at me was when I discussed the panpsychism that was nested in the lectures that I shared in Reason and Unreason a couple days ago).

The other part of course - I'm in the middle of switching professions and I think I'm waking up to a new set of rules, social dynamics, etc.. that might have been previously a bit beyond my local reach for analysis and now they're right in front of me. Lots of positive changes coming. I just have to keep the 2 of Pentacles action going well and leverage every challenge and perceived existential threat as a stepping stone of sorts for my own growth.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:57 pm
by Shinichi
Cybernetic_Jazz wrote:To say something about Step 8 briefly - Middle Pillar twice daily, I was able to do that for about a month and it was around that time on a particular Monday where at lunch time it seemed like the whole weight of my subconscious was saying 'Do you want to end up in the ER? If not stop doing this exercise". Even toward the end of that month, even just doing the four-fold breath at a reasonable pace I felt like I came close to passing out several times. I'm not sure what all of that means; I'm sure part of that might have been how I was intuitively synching up the breathing, just that I'd have to venture a guess that if I go back to doing MP regularly I'd probably make it a point to just do it once per day instead.

I would tell anyone to specifically not follow directions and to just do it once a day, just that I'd emphasize listen to your body as you're doing it and put your ego aside in doing so even if you feel a bit embarrassed at having to do so (it's really a race with yourself not anyone else).
It sounds like you almost hit burnout.

From the rest of your posts it seems you tend to struggle believing in the supernatural, but energywork doesn't really have anything to do with anything "supernatural." Energy is perfectly natural. Energy is energy. E = Energy. It is both physical and nonphysical, and influences the body, soul, and mind simultaneously. So when you do an intense exercise like the MPR without proper preparations, or without going slow enough to adjust to the new changes, you put certain stresses on your body that can have a wide range of side effects.

I've hit burnout before. The first time was when I first learned how to transfer my internal energy into other people to make their aches and pains better. I did it all day until I was tired, then I did it more because I thought it was neat and so did everybody else. Then something snapped, and I wasn't able to get out of bed for three days because of the exhaustion and pain, and it took a fair bit more than those three days before I was really back to normal.

And it can get a lot worse than that. Do some research on Kundalini Sickness, or Qi Gong Sickness. Most traditions talk about the dangers of incorrect training, and I think Regardie or Crowley or one of them talked about it too in one book or another, but Yoga and Qi Gong are most popular these days so the side effects of them are most discussed (easiest to find with a quick google search).

The benefits of such training is just as extensive and I highly recommend training the internal energy (especially working towards achieving what Yoga calls the Purification of the Nadis; Nadi Sadhan), but it is something that must be done carefully.



~:Shin:~

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:40 am
by Cybernetic_Jazz
Shinichi wrote: It sounds like you almost hit burnout.

From the rest of your posts it seems you tend to struggle believing in the supernatural, but energywork doesn't really have anything to do with anything "supernatural." Energy is perfectly natural. Energy is energy. E = Energy. It is both physical and nonphysical, and influences the body, soul, and mind simultaneously. So when you do an intense exercise like the MPR without proper preparations, or without going slow enough to adjust to the new changes, you put certain stresses on your body that can have a wide range of side effects.

I've hit burnout before. The first time was when I first learned how to transfer my internal energy into other people to make their aches and pains better. I did it all day until I was tired, then I did it more because I thought it was neat and so did everybody else. Then something snapped, and I wasn't able to get out of bed for three days because of the exhaustion and pain, and it took a fair bit more than those three days before I was really back to normal.

And it can get a lot worse than that. Do some research on Kundalini Sickness, or Qi Gong Sickness. Most traditions talk about the dangers of incorrect training, and I think Regardie or Crowley or one of them talked about it too in one book or another, but Yoga and Qi Gong are most popular these days so the side effects of them are most discussed (easiest to find with a quick google search).

The benefits of such training is just as extensive and I highly recommend training the internal energy (especially working towards achieving what Yoga calls the Purification of the Nadis; Nadi Sadhan), but it is something that must be done carefully.
TY.

The Step 9 work thankfully doesn't employ anything nearly as strenuous so between the end of my middle pillar routine and the end of this step I'll have had a two month vacation from any particularly intense energy work.

As for where I'm at on the actuality of this stuff I'd almost want to handle that as a side-discussion or on its own thread just because I know I've got too much to say on that topic and it could derail this thread pretty easily. Suffice to say I'm sure you're right on the point about energy and I have little doubt that energy work is precisely that.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:49 am
by Cybernetic_Jazz
Cybernetic_Jazz wrote: I would tell anyone to specifically not follow directions and to just do it once a day, just that I'd emphasize listen to your body as you're doing it and put your ego aside in doing so even if you feel a bit embarrassed at having to do so (it's really a race with yourself not anyone else).
Ick, I just saw a pretty fierce typo in this. I *wouldn't* tell anyone to specifically not follow the directions. You'll probably be able to gather that from context but it was a little jarring for me on re-read.

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:52 am
by Shinichi
If you'd like to do some more gentle energy work, I can recommend a simple way to prepare you for more advanced things like the MPR. Work on these two practices in order, as if each one is one of the steps in Regardies Manual here - become proficient at least before moving on:

1) Master The Complete Breath. There are several other things in this book that are beneficial as well, if you have the time. But the most important thing is to acquire this method of breathing completely and fully, so that you are utilizing your natural ability to inhale more oxygen and energy with each breath. It is through breathing methods like this that Yogis are able to do such long pranayamas - they are breathing fully, and their lungs naturally get stronger because of such practice.

2) Do the practice of Pore Breathing from Initiation Into Hermetics. The PDF for the IIH is easily found with a Google search, and Pore Breathing is at the end of Step 2. Skipping steps is bad if you're focusing on Bardon's system, but since you are not at present and since I'm already holding The Complete Breath as a prerequisite for this, it's fine to take Pore Breathing as a stand alone practice. You should also have sufficient Mental Discipline to work on it, if you've maintained your progress from Regardie's Manual or from other basic training. There is one specific marker of success with Pore Breathing that you must be mindful of, which RockDemon brought up in this thread when he made his own breakthrough. When you achieve that stage where you are actually breathing energy in and out of your pores, you've achieved success in this exercise and continued practice of it will only offer more benefits.

Given your current abilities, it should not be too hard for you to do this work. Once you do, practicing Pore Breathing for a while in its proper form (when it's more than imagination) will help you strengthen and detox your body - it will be easier for you to handle energy and with practices like the MPR, you'll both have more success and find it much less stressful. You should still probably only do one MPR a day for a while, but once your body is sufficiently strengthened and cleansed doing it twice a day won't be too difficult. Quality is more important than quantity though, which stands Pore Breathing as much as the MPR. Ten proper Pore Breaths is better than a hundred half assed ones, and one proper MPR a day will produce better progress as well.



~:Shin:~

Re: One Year Manual Discussion

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:15 am
by Cybernetic_Jazz
Really fascinating that you'd bring up pore breathing right now.

I say that because Step 10 of OYM is something of an analog to pore breathing just that it has a more elaborated lead-in visual. You've got me wondering now whether I might want to do that for a few weeks as a primer or whether I might want to do a couple month inject/extension like I'd originally been considering with triple-cypher.

Aside from that I'm trying the complete breath right now. I'll see how this progresses and what I decide to do over the next few weeks or months.

Thanks again for the input and insights! :)