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Fellow occultists,

Looks like there's a new movement rising against the Wall Street banksters...

From the Wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street:
On Saturday, October 1, more than seven hundred Occupy Wall Street protesters were reported arrested while blocking the Brooklyn-bound side of the Brooklyn Bridge.
So far this situation looks embryonic. A sign of greater things to come...?

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So far this situation looks embryonic. A sign of greater things to come...?
Indeed,actually this has spread far and wide and there are many towns and cities coming under the 'occupy' movement.UK demos are planned too and all across the World the message is taking off.

Expect us.


More info:

http://youtu.be/Xyp1n2WXUho

http://occupytogether.com/

5th October and 5th November,also dates to be aware of.....

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Dear Nehemah, I will definitely be looking forwards to more, then. [smile] I take it you're part of the movement. Best of luck, and may the Fire-bringer be with you. [thumbup]
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Im not an american but i do sympathise with the Poor people of America.


America has become in the past 10 years a very scary country. I could write an 20 page essay on the horrors that go on in this country. And honestly waited for quite a while for the people to step up and get rid of that cancer that is destroying the hearts and souls of Hundrets of Millions.

But i fear it might be for nothing. The ruling class will laugh about them and wait till the demonstraters get bored. The Protestors will go home and the parasites will continue to prosper.

At least im lucky, im not an american.

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I feel lucky to be an American. I live in a great country where people have the right to disagree with the corporations, the government, or anyone else we choose. We have the ability to vote those into office who can change our laws and policies. America may not be perfect but I don't know anyplace that is. I am lucky to be an American and proud to be one too.

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Well said Jimmy James.
The governments of our respective countries,sadly,are not representative of the people.

My governenment sickens me,here in the UK.I am not proud of them or what they'd done,but they are not us,they are not the people.

It is time for us all to show our distaste and stand up and say so.Government should serve the people not the other way around.

As was said by Jimmy,at least we can dissent,we have that option.So many countries don't and the only alternative for them is blood and fire on the streets.We must do something while we still can.While we still possess some semblance of democracy.

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Here is one of my contributions to the movement.... so far. Pass it along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6xrMZwnS-o

Worth watching... subscribe if you like it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrParkerEast

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Hey GCB,

That was really worth watching. Twice. I had a flood of images and Thoth was mouthing the words and walking around my desk. Afterwards I felt a kind of strange patchy fire in my small intestine.

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I'm doing everything I can to be involved with the movement.

www.occupytogether.org

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Occupy NOLA just got the Plastic Kiss of Love from me. :-*

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Cynicism: part of a balanced breakfast. [rofl]
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Coincidentally, I just received this newsletter from the National Inflation Association (of which I am part of), I'll quote it in full here for those of you who might be interested in gaining a different (and I would argue, more balanced) perspective to the issue:
NIA Exposes Occupy Wall Street Truth

The Occupy Wall Street movement is gaining tons of momentum and is likely to continue picking up steam in the weeks and months ahead. Americans are angry but they aren't exactly sure what they are angry about and they don't know for sure who they should be angry with. It is easy for them to point their fingers at Wall Street, but Wall Street is in no way responsible for the financial crisis our country has today.

NIA believes that Occupy Wall Street protesters need to be educated to the facts and truth about the U.S. economy and what is truly causing our economic problems. NIA is getting ready to release 'Occupy Wall Street the Documentary', which NIA has produced so that Occupy Wall Street protesters can understand exactly what changes need to be made in America if our country is going to survive the Hyperinflationary Great Depression that will soon hit America and steal all remaining purchasing power that the U.S. dollar still has left.

NIA first saw signs of the protests taking place today back in November of 2009 when we were in Beverly Hills filming our documentary 'The Dollar Bubble'. We were alerted by NIA members to a major protest that was breaking out at the University of California. We went to see it and witnessed a very violent protest of students upset about a 32% increase in college tuition for the next semester.

The UCLA protest showed us just how angry Americans can become about inflation. Because we were forecasting massive food inflation to start breaking out in 2010, we made the prediction that we would see large "End the Fed" protests beginning in 2010. We did see massive food inflation in late 2010, accelerating greatly throughout 2011. However, we overestimated the ability for average Americans to quickly point the finger at the Federal Reserve. We also didn't expect many citizens of foreign countries, especially Arab nations, to begin protesting before Americans did.

About one year after the violent UCLA tuition inflation protest that we witnessed, a larger even more violent tuition inflation protest broke out in London. When Prince Charles' security detail made the mistake of driving him and the Duchess of Cornwall past the area where the protest was taking place, in a vehicle that cost more than what each protester will earn in the next ten years combined, about 50 of the protesters broke through the motorcycle police protecting the Prince chanting "Off with their heads!", beating on the side of their Rolls-Royce with sticks and bottles. Luckily, the car was armored and only suffered minor damages, keeping Prince Charles and the Duchess safe. A Jaguar behind it containing police officers was destroyed to the extent that the officers ended up using car doors from the Jaguar as shields, which still couldn't prevent six of them from being seriously injured.

The food inflation protests that NIA had been expecting for over a year, started to break out in late January of this year in Algeria, with citizens chanting "Bring Us Sugar!" Eight citizens were killed during the protests in Algeria. This quickly spread to a massive outbreak of civil unrest in neighboring Tunisia, where thousands protested food inflation and high unemployment. The Tunisian revolution led to the ousting of longtime President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, but came at the expense of 79 protesters being killed.

This rapidly spread to the riots in Egypt. Before the Egyptian protests even began, six Egyptian citizens committed suicide in front of government buildings by dousing themselves with fuel and lighting themselves on fire. All together, 846 protesters were killed across different parts of Egypt and over 6,000 more were injured. The Egyptian protesters were eventually successful at getting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to resign from office.

NIA saw the resignation of Mubarak as a farce from the beginning. We couldn't understand how thousands of angry Egyptians who were calling for Mubarak's head would within seconds of his resignation announcement erupt into cheers like Egypt had just won the World Cup. The resignation of one man would not eliminate the corruption in Egypt's government and fix their inflation and jobs crisis. Most of Mubarak's cronies are still in power. Mubarak agreed to just take one for the team. For the protesters to declare victory and go home after one man announced his resignation shows that most of the protesters were sheep who were just copying their friends without having a real grasp on the issues affecting the economy in Egypt. What if Mubarak came back on television and said "I was just kidding" or "I just changed my mind and decided not to resign", would the protesters have come back?

After Egypt, the protests spread to Jordan and Yemen. Once again, food inflation was the main root cause of the protests, something that the mainstream media in the U.S. largely ignored when reporting on the protests. The American mainstream media was not allowed to discuss inflation when corresponding about the global inflation protests, because it didn't want the world to connect the dots and realize that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is more responsible for the global food inflation crisis and protests than the leader of any foreign country.

Because of the U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency, the majority of the world's most important agricultural and energy commodities are traded in U.S. dollars. When Bernanke prints trillions of dollars out of thin air in an attempt to reinflate the Real Estate bubble and lower unemployment in the U.S., it has a direct affect on what foreigners pay for all goods and services around the world. With China printing massive amounts of Yuan to keep it pegged to the U.S. dollar and the Bank of Japan intervening to keep the Yen from appreciating too rapidly against the U.S. dollar, countries like Australia are now quick to blame any short-term dip in manufacturing, agriculture production, or energy commodity exports on their currency being too strong against not just the U.S. dollar but the Yen, Yuan, and most other fiat currencies.

In just the last two weeks, the Australian dollar has risen 9.5% against the Yen, 8.5% against the U.S. dollar, and 8.6% against the Yuan. It should be no surprise to NIA members that attempts to copy "Occupy Wall Street" in Australia have been dismal. After 1,000 protesters initially showed up in Sydney on Saturday for their own "Occupy Wall Street" protest that was supposed to continue "indefinitely", less than 50 protesters remained on Monday as most people returned to work. Australia doesn't have an inflation or unemployment crisis because their central bank did the right thing and raised interest rates to 4.75% at a time when everybody else was lowering them. This is why since the inception of NIA we have always suggested Australia as our top choice for Americans to move to if they want to get out of harms way before hyperinflation hits the U.S. We hope that the Reserve Bank of Australia will continue to do the right thing and ignore calls from all around the world for them to lower rates.

The mainstream media is currently once again focused on the financial crisis in Europe, which is temporarily distracting from the debt crisis that really matters in the U.S. On Halloween, the official U.S. national debt for the first time ever will surpass U.S. GDP. At any time now without any warning or any new catalyst, we could see a huge onslaught of dollar dumping that causes the economic equivalent of 9/11.

There is no hope of preventing hyperinflation in America when President Obama is unwilling to consider any measure that would cut government spending in a meaningful way. In August when the Budget Control Act of 2011 was enacted by Congress, the mainstream media was widely reporting that the "supercommittee" formed by the act would be in charge of finding $1.5 trillion in spending cuts by Thanksgiving. In reality, this "supercommittee" that Obama was so heavily relying on to pay for his proposals in his "jobs bill", is not responsible for finding $1.5 trillion in spending cuts but only a $1.5 trillion reduction in the budget deficit over 10 years.

Obama promises to veto any proposals that make large spending cuts, especially to entitlement programs. Many Democrats are calling for a new 5% "surcharge" on Americans earning over $1 million per year. Within a few years, an annual income of $1 million will only have the purchasing power of what a $100,000 salary has today. This proposed new tax would discourage small business owners from expanding and hiring new employees. It would destroy any remaining hope that is left for a real economic recovery and encourage most American entrepreneurs to leave the country permanently.

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) yesterday released their consumer price index (CPI) data for the month of September. The BLS reported year-over-year CPI growth of 3.87%, the highest rate of U.S. price inflation in three years. The official government reported year-over-year U.S. price inflation rate of 3.87% for September was up from 3.77% in August, 3.63% in July, 3.56% in June, 3.57% in May, 3.16% in April, 2.68% in March, 2.11% in February, 1.63% in January, 1.5% in December, and 1.1% in November. Year-over-year increases in the CPI have risen by 252% over the last ten months.

Even year-over-year core-CPI growth rose for the 11th straight month to 1.97% in September, an increase of 223% from year-over-year growth of 0.61% in November. NIA estimates the real rate of U.S. price inflation to currently be 8.5% on a year-over-year basis. It was just announced that American retirees receiving Social Security will receive a 3.6% COLA increase, the first increase since 2009. Social Security is the main reason the U.S. government reports artificially low CPI numbers. By giving retired Americans only a 3.6% Social Security payment increase when real price inflation is now 8.5%, Congress gets to spend the difference in the ways they see fit.

With inflation spiraling out of control, the government knows that they soon won't be able to afford even the artificially low COLA increases they are making today. Congress is now exploring ways to keep future COLA increases as low as possible. Many clueless Keynesian economists in Washington are now arguing that the inflation measure the government uses to calculate COLA increases, the CPI-W, is overestimating true increases in the cost of living. These economists claim that Americans can shift between items and if veal prices are rising too much, they can eat chicken or if lobster prices are rising too much, they can eat shrimp. They propose that the government switches to a version of CPI that accounts for these changes, called "chain weighted" CPI.

All Americans know that their cost to maintain the same standard of living has increased by a lot more than 3.6% over the past year. The CPI-W being used today already artificially understates inflation so much that current Social Security recipients deserve to be receiving triple their current payments. If "chain weighted" CPI was being used today, American seniors would only receive a 3% COLA increase next year.

If the U.S. government did the right thing and invested all FICA tax receipts into gold, it would be able to give Social Security recipients an increase next year of around 8.5% like they should be entitled to. American seniors are being hurt most by inflation because health care has consistently had the highest rate of inflation out of all goods and services. A COLA increase of 3.6% is nothing when NIA estimates the real rate of health care inflation to currently be 15% or 76.5% higher than the overall real rate of price inflation. To artificially lower COLA increases even more would mean utter devastation to the U.S. economy as seniors would need to reenter the workforce and Americans with jobs would need to stop spending money on goods and services in order to help their parents. This would mean even less jobs for the youth in America and less support for them from their parents.

If you would like your friends and family members to be the first to see 'Occupy Wall Street the Documentary' coming soon, simply tell them to become a member of NIA for free today at: http://inflation.us
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Ssormany,I cross posted with you.I need to read your post befre commenting further...ooopsy.



Lol,yeah.Fuck yeah.

I know,how hypocritical eh? Not really.

Where are the bank cards,overdue bills and the mortgage foreclosures,in their pockets perhaps?

It's not ALL about consumerism and it's not about destroying the system,it's about making it fairer,corporations can work ethically,it IS possible,just more expensive for them to do so.If more companies employed workers within their countries of origin,with fair wages,we would have a lot less unemployment,no?

That would backlash on the developing countries no doubt,but they can only undercut the first world ones because they have little in the way of regulation,laws and civil rights for their workers.Change needs to be more than simply anti corporatism,change must happen worldwide across all spectrums.

If taxes were kept 'onshore' and profits and monopolies regulated properly,for instance it would improve things enormously and that is just beginning to scrape the surface of what is unfair and needs changing.

The underpinning logic of First World Economics: Cetibus Paribus,the assumption of a level playing field,is a false premise,the payload was always going to buckle at some point,as the sytstem is untenable,long term.

Here's a wee point of interest,have a look:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... world.html

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Wow. It seems like I encounter tons of people who don't actually understand what "we are the 99%" means.

Okay, while there are SOME people involved in occupy who are anti-bank, anti-corporate, anti-capitalist, the majority, from what I've learned by talking to people online and at my local protest, are doing this because 1% of the global population controls 40% of the global wealth. It's NOT about destroying corporations and it's not about taking down Wall Street. It's about creating more economic and educational equality because THE AMERICAN DREAM OF UPWARD MOBILITY HAS BEEN STIFLED.
"We are the 99%" means that while we all have many different problems, backgrounds, politics and agendas, that ALL of us have been exploited by vicious business and government practices DESIGNED to make sure that poor people stay poor and make everybody else, except the super rich, poorer.
That's precisely WHY the movement isn't making demands. Because making demands through the movement immediately disenfranchises another section of the 99% of Americans who are disenfranchised.
The majority of the people I've met and talked to (at least 9 out of 10, AT LEAST) are protesting because they want to know why the government coddles businesses and agencies that act irresponsibly or out of greed when they should be supporting the regular people who can't afford to own property, go to college, or sometimes even food. It's not even about hand outs, it's about giving everyone a better shot than they've had this past decade.

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Nahemah wrote:
Here's a wee point of interest,have a look:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... world.html
Loved this article so much. I never thought it was a conspiracy, but I'm glad to see confirmed that this is really happening.

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It's those wankin' bankers. Zaphod's just this guy, you know?

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Greetings Frater G.C.B.,

Thanks for sharing your video. I really loved it...that was quite an impassioned and poetic rant! Way to be, man.:)

One question, just out of personal curiosity: any particular reason you chose the date Feb. 26th in your speech? Just asking because that date has an important and powerful spiritual significance to me.

Did you choose 2-26 at random or was some numerological calculation involved?

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Occupy Kokomo didn't like the fact that the Greenwave faction considered the drug war a civil rights issue, so they baited us by using racial epithets, called the cops on us and had us ejected from the protest. Soon afterwards, probably because of mass defections from the ranks, Occupy Kokomo fell apart. Why they couldn't realize we are part of the 99%, and have legitimate concerns with a government that declares war on some of it's citizens who use some vegetables some of the time, I will never understand.
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