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Original post: RifRaf
Since I was 15or so I have been dealing with Sleep paralysis on a frequent level. Sometimes it can happen 3 or more times in a night, sometimes it will be a week or so before it happens again.
My question is, while in this state could I use this as a method of entering a trance? I have decided to not try and jerk myself out of the paralysis a few times, which I once stayed in this state for a good 30 minutes, this was, however, before I knew anything of projection, OOBE, etc. So it was of no great use.
Since I was 15or so I have been dealing with Sleep paralysis on a frequent level. Sometimes it can happen 3 or more times in a night, sometimes it will be a week or so before it happens again.
My question is, while in this state could I use this as a method of entering a trance? I have decided to not try and jerk myself out of the paralysis a few times, which I once stayed in this state for a good 30 minutes, this was, however, before I knew anything of projection, OOBE, etc. So it was of no great use.
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Original post: Scarlett_156
It's possible, but I don't recommend using any technique that you don't have a full understanding and complete control of. If you could enter the paralytic state and then go out of it again relatively at will, then: Yeah, it might be useful. However, if it just happens every so often and is beyond your control, maybe learn more about why it's happening before you start trying to make use of it. xoxo Scarlett
It's possible, but I don't recommend using any technique that you don't have a full understanding and complete control of. If you could enter the paralytic state and then go out of it again relatively at will, then: Yeah, it might be useful. However, if it just happens every so often and is beyond your control, maybe learn more about why it's happening before you start trying to make use of it. xoxo Scarlett
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Original post: Deicide
I've had this same thing happen, not sure what really causes it but I always try and jerk myself out of it, definately some scary shit when you can't move your body and/or blink.
I've had this same thing happen, not sure what really causes it but I always try and jerk myself out of it, definately some scary shit when you can't move your body and/or blink.
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Original post: RifRaf
[QUOTE=Scarlett_156;320877]It's possible, but I don't recommend using any technique that you don't have a full understanding and complete control of. If you could enter the paralytic state and then go out of it again relatively at will, then: Yeah, it might be useful. However, if it just happens every so often and is beyond your control, maybe learn more about why it's happening before you start trying to make use of it. xoxo Scarlett[/QUOTE]
I can control it. I can stay in it for almost an hour if I want, or I can focus all my energy to my fingers then "jerk" out of it.
The reason, I believe, it started happening to me is because I changed my life style. I was addicted to Opiates for some time, mainly Heroin. When I got done detoxing it started happening, that was years ago, and it still continues to happen.
[QUOTE=Scarlett_156;320877]It's possible, but I don't recommend using any technique that you don't have a full understanding and complete control of. If you could enter the paralytic state and then go out of it again relatively at will, then: Yeah, it might be useful. However, if it just happens every so often and is beyond your control, maybe learn more about why it's happening before you start trying to make use of it. xoxo Scarlett[/QUOTE]
I can control it. I can stay in it for almost an hour if I want, or I can focus all my energy to my fingers then "jerk" out of it.
The reason, I believe, it started happening to me is because I changed my life style. I was addicted to Opiates for some time, mainly Heroin. When I got done detoxing it started happening, that was years ago, and it still continues to happen.
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Original post: Scarlett_156
Well it kinda sounds like you have answered your own question then. Good luck! xoxo
Well it kinda sounds like you have answered your own question then. Good luck! xoxo
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Original post: RifRaf
Well then main question is, Is there a way to Astral Project from this "state"? Or not. Should I just go about the usual means of entering a trance like I have in the past?
Well then main question is, Is there a way to Astral Project from this "state"? Or not. Should I just go about the usual means of entering a trance like I have in the past?
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Original post: tiger_shark
[QUOTE=RifRaf;320941]Well then main question is, Is there a way to Astral Project from this "state"? Or not. Should I just go about the usual means of entering a trance like I have in the past?[/QUOTE]
Of course there is a way to AP from this paralyzed state, I would assume it is actually easier that way because your body is already asleep and because even if you have an itch you can't scratch it.. Anyways I used to know someone with frequent sleep paralysis and he would unconsiously project sometimes while trying to move and break himself out of it.
[QUOTE=RifRaf;320941]Well then main question is, Is there a way to Astral Project from this "state"? Or not. Should I just go about the usual means of entering a trance like I have in the past?[/QUOTE]
Of course there is a way to AP from this paralyzed state, I would assume it is actually easier that way because your body is already asleep and because even if you have an itch you can't scratch it.. Anyways I used to know someone with frequent sleep paralysis and he would unconsiously project sometimes while trying to move and break himself out of it.
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Original post: Crowskin
I've pushed myself down deep, towards a self imposed sleep paralysis like state before. It's an interesting sensation really. Theres this strong resistance against you moving, and after a while your limbs almost feel completely gone. Or rather, you fall into a specific detachment with your physical body.
I assume this is similar to natural sleep paralysis, and in that case yes. It would be quite easy to 'push' yourself into deeper trance states, or even fall out of body into more of an astral type experience.
Since technically, it seems to be all the same genre of animal already. Ie: sleep paraylisis is technically a form of 'altered state' where ones mind has given up physical control of the body, and the body remains paralyized as if it were in the deep stages of sleep. So technically it would act like skipping the whole "Relax your body" steps that are the base for most meditations.
Least thats how I figure it
You should experiment with it (safely of course) and sort of play with your findings. Perhaps you will create a whole new method of slipping out of your body at night?
Good luck
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I've pushed myself down deep, towards a self imposed sleep paralysis like state before. It's an interesting sensation really. Theres this strong resistance against you moving, and after a while your limbs almost feel completely gone. Or rather, you fall into a specific detachment with your physical body.
I assume this is similar to natural sleep paralysis, and in that case yes. It would be quite easy to 'push' yourself into deeper trance states, or even fall out of body into more of an astral type experience.
Since technically, it seems to be all the same genre of animal already. Ie: sleep paraylisis is technically a form of 'altered state' where ones mind has given up physical control of the body, and the body remains paralyized as if it were in the deep stages of sleep. So technically it would act like skipping the whole "Relax your body" steps that are the base for most meditations.
Least thats how I figure it
You should experiment with it (safely of course) and sort of play with your findings. Perhaps you will create a whole new method of slipping out of your body at night?
Good luck
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Original post: RifRaf
Lately, I have been experimenting heavily with this. It seems that when I take any with Diphenhydramine HCL (Benadryl, Dramamine, etc.) along with my Rehmannia 16 (in safe doses, but slightly over the recommended dosage) I can reach this state quiet easily, sitting up even.
I usually do heavy "pore breathing" during meditation to induce my trance, now if I do this while waiting for the onset of the medication my other body very easily slips away from me. I, of course, do not condone the use of OTC medication usage on a daily basis, but this may be a way for some of the people that have trouble entering this stage to enter into it a tad easier. However, I do notice that this sometimes severely disables me from performing any type of magick on the astral planes.
I'll keep trying this with and without the usage of the chemicals and try and see how greatly, or poorly it continues to work.
Lately, I have been experimenting heavily with this. It seems that when I take any with Diphenhydramine HCL (Benadryl, Dramamine, etc.) along with my Rehmannia 16 (in safe doses, but slightly over the recommended dosage) I can reach this state quiet easily, sitting up even.
I usually do heavy "pore breathing" during meditation to induce my trance, now if I do this while waiting for the onset of the medication my other body very easily slips away from me. I, of course, do not condone the use of OTC medication usage on a daily basis, but this may be a way for some of the people that have trouble entering this stage to enter into it a tad easier. However, I do notice that this sometimes severely disables me from performing any type of magick on the astral planes.
I'll keep trying this with and without the usage of the chemicals and try and see how greatly, or poorly it continues to work.
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Original post: Arckangel
I've read there exist treatments against it. Should be used with caution, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Treatment
http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=26695
I've read there exist treatments against it. Should be used with caution, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Treatment
http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=26695
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Original post: RifRaf
I would prefer not to treat mine. But I do know alot of people despise it.
I would prefer not to treat mine. But I do know alot of people despise it.
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Original post: Kai_Rusalka
How do you control it RifRaf?
How do you control it RifRaf?
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Original post: raditus
I am intrigued by this. I have something like it once in a blue moon. I used to get them all the time when I was a kid. And when I say that, I mean, like every other day.
Mine was where I'd also feel like I couldn't move, but not where something was holding me down or whatever, I just couldn't move my body. And it also felt like I was being amped up with energy, electrocuted it felt like.
During one of the episodes, I was laying on my tummy in such a way that I could see my arm. I tried moving my arm, and my astral arm rose a bit, making it look like I had four arms briefly.
So the question is, if any one knows how to acutally induce this paralysis in sleep, could I be PMed and told how to? I just want to try and see if this is indeed what I was experiencing, or something else entirely.
I am intrigued by this. I have something like it once in a blue moon. I used to get them all the time when I was a kid. And when I say that, I mean, like every other day.
Mine was where I'd also feel like I couldn't move, but not where something was holding me down or whatever, I just couldn't move my body. And it also felt like I was being amped up with energy, electrocuted it felt like.
During one of the episodes, I was laying on my tummy in such a way that I could see my arm. I tried moving my arm, and my astral arm rose a bit, making it look like I had four arms briefly.
So the question is, if any one knows how to acutally induce this paralysis in sleep, could I be PMed and told how to? I just want to try and see if this is indeed what I was experiencing, or something else entirely.
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Original post: SnowFire
Sleep Paralysis is quite terrifying for me.
Then again, I do Astral Travelling alot.
Never heard of being able to do AP through SP, though....
Sleep Paralysis is quite terrifying for me.
Then again, I do Astral Travelling alot.
Never heard of being able to do AP through SP, though....
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Original post: Kriztenzen
The first couple of times I experienced sleep paralysis I was horrified.
I would be half out of body and struggling to get back in - fighting the heavy vibrations and buzzing sounds in my skull. This would result in a night of broken sleep and coldsweat.
It is really uncomfortable; but like most things one can become acustomed to the sensations.
When I find myself in this state, it is usually enough for me to relax, and an astral projection will occur quite automatically.
If it doesn't - I usually just imagine myself walking through my house and that does the trick every time.
The first couple of times I experienced sleep paralysis I was horrified.
I would be half out of body and struggling to get back in - fighting the heavy vibrations and buzzing sounds in my skull. This would result in a night of broken sleep and coldsweat.
It is really uncomfortable; but like most things one can become acustomed to the sensations.
When I find myself in this state, it is usually enough for me to relax, and an astral projection will occur quite automatically.
If it doesn't - I usually just imagine myself walking through my house and that does the trick every time.
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Original post: SnowFire
My last SP experience was not that long ago.
Basically, I was halfway inbetween sleep and halfway inbetween awakeing. I got a sudden tight feeling in my chest and found it very hard to breathe. I was almost hyperventalating(SP?). It lasted for about 5 minutes, before it went.
It really felt like someone was sitting on my chest.
It was horrible.
My last SP experience was not that long ago.
Basically, I was halfway inbetween sleep and halfway inbetween awakeing. I got a sudden tight feeling in my chest and found it very hard to breathe. I was almost hyperventalating(SP?). It lasted for about 5 minutes, before it went.
It really felt like someone was sitting on my chest.
It was horrible.
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Original post: raditus
I actually did do this through "SP", the astral walking around. Trough my house. It seemed though, the farther I got away from my body, the stronger the buzzing, electric feeling was until it was quite painful. then I "woke up."
Kriztenzen;332048 wrote:If it doesn't - I usually just imagine myself walking through my house and that does the trick every time.
I actually did do this through "SP", the astral walking around. Trough my house. It seemed though, the farther I got away from my body, the stronger the buzzing, electric feeling was until it was quite painful. then I "woke up."
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Original post: Draginvry
Sleep Paralysis is actually what happens when you are asleep, but you are still consciously aware of your surroundings. When you sleep, the brain triggers a reaction which paralyzes the body so you won't injure yourself by acting out your dreams. If this is triggered when you are awake, or you awaken without the process reverting to normal, the body will remain paralyzed but you will be consciously aware of your surroundings.
I'd make sure you can snap yourself out of it quickly before trying to use it for magick. Uncontrolled sleep paralysis can be dangerous, especially if it is related to withdrawal or drug use like someone already mentioned.
I got so scared once when I was a kid that I started hyperventilating. I kept breathing faster and couldn't stop. It was very painful.
Sleep Paralysis is actually what happens when you are asleep, but you are still consciously aware of your surroundings. When you sleep, the brain triggers a reaction which paralyzes the body so you won't injure yourself by acting out your dreams. If this is triggered when you are awake, or you awaken without the process reverting to normal, the body will remain paralyzed but you will be consciously aware of your surroundings.
I'd make sure you can snap yourself out of it quickly before trying to use it for magick. Uncontrolled sleep paralysis can be dangerous, especially if it is related to withdrawal or drug use like someone already mentioned.
Hyperventilation is actually breathing too quickly or too deeply. It causes an imbalance of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the blood, causing other nervous disorders and often fainting or lightheadedness.hyperventalating
I got so scared once when I was a kid that I started hyperventilating. I kept breathing faster and couldn't stop. It was very painful.
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Original post: raditus
Yeah, my kid sister hyperventilates when she gets real upset. She has a temper problem and my mom has to hold her and instruct her to breath slowly and through her nose. Works like a charm everytime.
Yeah, my kid sister hyperventilates when she gets real upset. She has a temper problem and my mom has to hold her and instruct her to breath slowly and through her nose. Works like a charm everytime.