A skeptic's last resort

[Nesrail]

Hello.
I have written here a long time ago because I was curious about the occult. The reason why is because some strange things happened where my girlfriend and I lived before. She is spiritual and I've always been very skeptic about the whole spirit world and such.
But that changed a little bit when my girlfriend and I experienced some odd stuff. A long time has passed and nothing has happen to us, until now.

I work away from home four days a week so my girlfriend lives alone until I get home for the weekends. She is scared to be by herself because of increased number of home robberies. Its near impossible to do home robberies where we live because the neighbors is next door and nothing ever happens here. But she is still scared.
Then one weekend I was finally home for weekend and she was visiting a friend for two days, weird stuff happened. In the place we live in there is an attic storage room on the second floor (we live in a two storage apartment with the bedroom on second) and I was hearing noises from up there. My first thought was "damn, rats" but at night when I was about to sleep, it sounded like someone was running across the attic floor. It was to loud to be a rat. First I what I was dreaming so I sat up and listen again. The sound came again. I got out of our bed and stood in front of the attic hatch. The sound was there again. As a carpenter I though it could be the wind or something with the construction. The next day I took a latter and checked the attic. Nothing. I took the latter outside and checked the roof. Nothing. I even called our supervisor and told him our roof was broken. He and a specialist found nothing at all.
I didn't tell my girlfriend this, because there was no reason to scare her more. Eventually she heard it to but more violently. She called me at night when I was out working and told me this, I was skeptic and just told her to go to sleep again (what a total douche huh?).
A few weeks later when I was at sleep and away from home, she called me. First I was pissed because she called me in the middle of the night and I had to work that morning, but I have never heard her so scared in my life. She said someone was in the house and was ravaging things. She began to cry and I decided to go home in the middle of the night. Its a two hour drive so I told her to call the police and lock the bedroom door.
When I arrived the police was just leaving but they couldn't find anyone in the house. She was scared shitless. I really thought she was getting crazy.
I stayed at the house and called of work the next day.
Nothing was "going on" in the house in the daytime but in the night she woke me up. The ravaging was there again. I was instantly convinced. Someone was in the house and was heading up the stairs to our bedroom. I took a few scissors and nail files between my fingers (like wolverine) to get ready to destroy whoever was out there, to project her. When the noise was at the bedroom door I kicked it open, ready to defend but nothing was there. The sound downstairs stopped and I went downstairs with her behind me and we entered our living room. Nobody was there, nothing was broken or stolen.
This is where everything changed me.
A vase with some flowers, I gave her, flew across the room and smashed into pieces and a hanging picture of us smashed to the floor. I consider myself very brave and rational but I fell backwards to the floor in front of my girlfriend scared shitless and total out of my mind. THIS WAS NOT RATIONAL. I was on the brink of tears, thats how scared I was.
I search the internet for anything about spirits and I found something about necromancy and stuff like that. But I'm not an expert. I quit the project I was on and chose a job closer to home, so I could be home everyday.
Nothing happened in a while until a few days, maybe a week ago, the sounds happened again. I just want closure and being apply to protect my family.

I sincerely hope I can get some help on how to confront or get rid of this thing or whatever it is.

Sincerely
"Nesrail" and girlfriend.

P.S I tried to tell it so detailed I could because maybe there are some clues for what might be wrong.

[RoseRed]

Have you looked for any paranormal researchers or 'ghost hunters' in your area?

Some are good at what they do. Some aren't. Even if they're not so great - they'll most likely have a network of people that they can go to in different situations.

If they want to bring a Ouija board into your home with this going on - don't let them in your front door. There's a very real possibility that that could make it worse.

Some groups are very upfront that they are only there for 'scientific investigation'. Some have contacts or work with people that can help with ghosts, poltergeists or other paranormal phenomenon.

[Nesrail]

Have you looked for any paranormal researchers or 'ghost hunters' in your area?

Some are good at what they do. Some aren't. Even if they're not so great - they'll most likely have a network of people that they can go to in different situations.

If they want to bring a Ouija board into your home with this going on - don't let them in your front door. There's a very real possibility that that could make it worse.

Some groups are very upfront that they are only there for 'scientific investigation'. Some have contacts or work with people that can help with ghosts, poltergeists or other paranormal phenomenon.

I tried but I can't really find anyone. I went against everything I believe in and went to the church and asked a priest. I looked at me at I was playing games and threw me out. The town I live in, is apparently also very rational.

[RoseRed]

What denomination of priest? You may have better luck with spiritual Methodists than Catholics.

Most of these groups will travel up to 50-75 miles.

Do you have any training in the occult, magic or the Craft? If not- I believe it's better to bring someone in than to attempt it yourself - especially with this level of activity. The last thing you want to do is piss it off (or challenge it) and not be able to handle the consequences.

[Nesrail]

What denomination of priest? You may have better luck with spiritual Methodists than Catholics.

Most of these groups will travel up to 50-75 miles.

Do you have any training in the occult, magic or the Craft? If not- I believe it's better to bring someone in than to attempt it yourself - especially with this level of activity. The last thing you want to do is piss it off (or challenge it) and not be able to handle the consequences.

It was just a christian priest but should I keep looking. I don't know what to search for. Like ghostbuster or what? I have NO practice whatsoever with this. You wrote "this". What is "this"?

[RoseRed]

Christian? As in one of the Protestant denominations? Then no, I'm not surprised you were thrown out.

Most of the local ghost hunting groups sign up with different 'society' groups that are broken down by state. Some of the society websites look incredibly stupid but the info is good. You can also check meetup.com for a list of local groups in your area.

Some links to get you started:

paranormal meetup groups http://paranormal.meetup.com/

Paranormal Society by state http://www.paranormalsocieties.com/

Ghost stop by state http://www.ghoststop.com/Ghost-Hunting-Teams-a/250.htm

[Nesrail]

Christian? As in one of the Protestant denominations? Then no, I'm not surprised you were thrown out.

Most of the local ghost hunting groups sign up with different 'society' groups that are broken down by state. Some of the society websites look incredibly stupid but the info is good. You can also check meetup.com for a list of local groups in your area.

Some links to get you started:

paranormal meetup groups http://paranormal.meetup.com/

Paranormal Society by state http://www.paranormalsocieties.com/

Ghost stop by state http://www.ghoststop.com/Ghost-Hunting-Teams-a/250.htm

I should probably mention I live in Denmark. Its hard to find anyone in these parts.

[Ramscha]

If you can afford it, get the hell out of there. It doesn't sound like there is much enjoyment in staying there.

What you could also try is to make an offering and stating with a clear statement that you would like to live in peace.
Do that for a while on a smaller scale then like a few cookies a week or burning incense regularly, maybe you get a ceasefire out.

If that does not help and you cannot afford to move out and you cannot get help from a local priest or any other hand like those mentioned ghosthunters you could still go the rough way but that is risky especially if you are not experienced. We can give you a hand and a few tips and tricks but the execution of the decision is up to you.

Ramscha

[Maya The Generator]

I agree with Ramsha, Get the hell out of there if you can.

Did you heard about this robberies or your girlfriend told you about them? Sorry for suspicion but you never know.

[Nesrail]

@Ramscha - Right now we can't afford to leave but I have been thinking about it. What kind of tricks? I will of course try the offering thing first. What exactly is an offering?

@MayaTheGenerator Yes the robberies is all over the news. Apparently these bastards enter peoples home at night and will hurt them if necessary. But the change of that happening here is, in my opinion, very slim.

[RoseRed]

I can't help you out with Denmark.

[Ramscha]

What kind of tricks?

Tricks how you might be able to deal with such a matter (like the hint with the offering, it is also a sort of trick) [eg]

I will of course try the offering thing first. What exactly is an offering?

An offering is first and foremost a gesture of respect and good intention, sometimes also in the context of worshipping but not always.
It can either be done as solely as said friendly gesture or also as a sort of exchange to ask for something in return like luck or stuff like that. It was alsoused to be brought to calm the forces of nature/evil spirits or gods when one is pleagued by something like a flood. I guess you get the core principle?

As I said I wouldn't go to far with the offering, don't go and sacrifice the cat of your neighbors or stuff like that. Keep it small but on a regular basis for the next few weeks like burning some incense each second evening. Whatever you do, state clearly your intent but don't be rude. Say that you want to live in peace and don't mean any harm but that you live here as well (something like that, use the words you see fit but as I said, be clear but not rude!)

Observe what happens the next nights and keep it up for a week and see how it goes and how the resonance is.

Ramscha

[Nesrail]

As I said I wouldn't go to far with the offering, don't go and sacrifice the cat of your neighbors or stuff like that.

What!?! I already captured all the cats [happy2]

I will try your tricks for now to see if it helps.

What is the thing that "haunts" us?

[the_spiral]

As I said I wouldn't go to far with the offering, don't go and sacrifice the cat of your neighbors or stuff like that.

What!?! I already captured all the cats [happy2]

I will try your tricks for now to see if it helps.

What is the thing that "haunts" us?

It's hard to know what is haunting you without being inside your home or at least meeting you and your girlfriend. Ghosts/shades usually don't smash and throw things around in front of people, so if you've crossed out all rational possibilities I'd guess you're dealing with poltergeist activity or (less common but possible) something elemental or demonic. But again, that's just a guess. You may have a tough time finding help in a country as secular as Denmark, but I found a few groups:
http://www.paranormalt.dk/news.php
https://www.facebook.com/Paranormal.Denmark
http://paranormalsocieties.com/internat ... ry=Denmark

I agree with the suggestion to leave a simple offering and ask whatever it is to let you live in peace. I wouldn't do anything more than that without assistance though, as it is quite easy to make these situations worse without knowing what you're dealing with. Also may I ask why you have a sigil of Lucifer as your icon? I'd think such a powerful deity would be able to help if you are in contact with him.

[Nesrail]

I will try an contact one of the sites.

I agree with the suggestion to leave a simple offering and ask whatever it is to let you live in peace. I wouldn't do anything more than that without assistance though, as it is quite easy to make these situations worse without knowing what you're dealing with. Also may I ask why you have a sigil of Lucifer as your icon? I'd think such a powerful deity would be able to help if you are in contact with him.

There is no deeper meaning to why I use the sigil as my icon. When I first started looking into the occult I saw the symbol and loved what it represented. I don't think I shall contact more entities or whatever it is, especially Lucifer. I already have my hands full.

[the_spiral]

Oh yes, I agree if you're not already working with Lucifer now isn't a good time to start. Did you find any of the links helpful?

[Nesrail]

Oh yes, I agree if you're not already working with Lucifer now isn't a good time to start. Did you find any of the links helpful?

I'll try the paranormalt.dk and see who they are. So far thanks for the help. I will keep you posted.

[manonthepath]

A vase with some flowers, I gave her, flew across the room and smashed into pieces and a hanging picture of us smashed to the floor.

I find it interesting that the only items you specifically mention as being targeted were items representing the bond between the both of you. Is my assumption correct?

[Nesrail]

A vase with some flowers, I gave her, flew across the room and smashed into pieces and a hanging picture of us smashed to the floor.

I find it interesting that the only items you specifically mention as being targeted were items representing the bond between the both of you. Is my assumption correct?

Yes thats correct! I never thought of that. What does that mean? "It" wants me to break up with her?

[the_spiral]

A vase with some flowers, I gave her, flew across the room and smashed into pieces and a hanging picture of us smashed to the floor.

I find it interesting that the only items you specifically mention as being targeted were items representing the bond between the both of you. Is my assumption correct?

Yes thats correct! I never thought of that. What does that mean? "It" wants me to break up with her?

Manonthepath makes an excellent point. It sounds like this is connected to your girlfriend, since most of the phenomena happen around her and only confronted you in the context of your relationship with her. I have an intuition about what you're dealing with, but I still think you should seek face-to-face advice. I also suspect if you can pinpoint why, when and how the problem began, the solution will immediately become apparent.

[Nesrail]

Manonthepath makes an excellent point. It sounds like this is connected to your girlfriend, since most of the phenomena happen around her and only confronted you in the context of your relationship with her. I have an intuition about what you're dealing with, but I still think you should seek face-to-face advice. I also suspect if you can pinpoint why, when and how the problem began, the solution will immediately become apparent.

I don't know if it's necessary knowledge but my girlfriend is Wiccan, in the sense that she believe in the energies in the world or something like that. Could it all be connected to that?

[manonthepath]

A vase with some flowers, I gave her, flew across the room and smashed into pieces and a hanging picture of us smashed to the floor.

I find it interesting that the only items you specifically mention as being targeted were items representing the bond between the both of you. Is my assumption correct?

Yes thats correct! I never thought of that. What does that mean? "It" wants me to break up with her?

That's not for me to say. Just observe to see if this is truly a pattern and then you can test the pattern. Is there any "Geistig" activity when you make love? What about when you spend time cuddling and giggling (if this si even something you do)? If it seems to be an important variable, try to see to whom and how the hostility is directed. Could it be that this entity is simply residual energy from a damaged spirit, or a spiteful demonic entity in need of a charge (They can act like this when trying to generate certain frequencies of fear)? Another possibility may be that it may have some interest in one of you for some reason. It could very well be that I'm way off base on this as well. What I'm talking about is only a remote possibility based on a small set of variables. You need to begin a detailed log of events, locations, times of day and days of the week of each occurrence. Then you need to examine and correlate the data. Such a log wouldalso be of help to any spiritualist you may engage. Keep us posted on this. If you need more detailed help feel free to pm me. Rosered is also very knowledgeable and credible with a kind heart, so I'm sure she can help too.

[Nesrail]

Is there any "Geistig" activity when you make love? What about when you spend time cuddling and giggling

We haven't experienced something like that but most of the noises comes when we are in bed.

You need to begin a detailed log of events, locations, times of day and days of the week of each occurrence.

Thats a really good idea! I will of course right if something happens and thanks for letting me pm you.

[JohnTitor]

Random thought- have you looked into the history of the area or building in particular that you reside in? There may have been tragedy with a resident and their lover. Not so much that it wants you to break up, but it is angry. I agree with all of the input here by the other users, especially the simple offering such as incense and announcing what it is you desire- such as to live in peace. The big issue here however isn't what it is, rather WHY it is. A brief checking of historical occurrences may shed some light on the WHO or WHAT, and one could ask it it's purpose whilst burning the incense. Ofttimes the spirit may manifest through the smoke or give you a simple impression in your minds eye. Does she get any impressions or random thoughts or do you- during the occurrences? Don't know yet if this issue has been resolved, but I am curious- as simply claiming the space after she cleanses it may save you much work if you have no desire to communicate.

Cleansing could be a great means to the end of peace. There are many Wiccan practices that are for just such a purpose, as well as those that are great for keeping things OUT once they are removed and the space is once again sacred/cleansed.

[Nesrail]

Random thought- have you looked into the history of the area or building in particular that you reside in?

No I never really looked into the history. I will try and ask me neighbor when I see her, asking about the people that lived before. She have been living here for 20 years, since the beginning actually so she might no stuff.

Don't know yet if this issue has been resolved, but I am curious- as simply claiming the space after she cleanses it may save you much work if you have no desire to communicate.

The issue haven't been resolved yet so yeah, I will keep you posted and on the thoughts through cleansing.