Wow! I had no idea you were in your 80s Desecrated. Which really has little to do with anything because I was called old-fashioned when I was still in my teens. I was brought up in a traditional Ruskie household.
I certainly can't argue with stubborn LOL. But, show me a damn good reason and I am always open to changing an opinion based on further education. You should know that about me by now.
Try to remember that I'm not speaking for anyone else but myself. Myself being a lineaged trad witch. Trad - as in Traditional. As in I'm not going to change the words and definitions I use because someone on the internet says 'I can make it up as I go and call it whatever I like cuz this is Wicca!' (in my best 300 voice) [yay]
THIS is what's wrong with the whole 'solitary, eclectic, i'm gonna call myself after a religion that i don't follow or know jack shit about, water it all down and make it palatable for the masses' bullshit!
It was brilliant! I wonder if the authors that started the solitary wiccan movement had any idea that by making it so mainstream that the occultic practitioners can speak openly like we're doing right now. People barely bat an eye when I say I'm Pagan. Witch is a totally different story.
Just because I give a great big sincere THANK YOU to those that made is soooooooo easy to hide in plain site doesn't mean I agree with the watering down of things. And you know what? I don't have to. I have my own Tradition. Now, before you accuse me clinging to something outdated or whatever other diatribe we've all heard before - just remember you know very little about my personal practice.
the_spiral wrote: I see so many people following magic spells and advice from the internet (which isn't itself a bad thing, we all have to start somewhere) but these recipes often leave out the actual spiritual energies summoned by such work.
Desecrated: Spiritual energy is just one way of looking at things. It's one belief and although it is traditionally right, it doesn't necessary mean that everybody wants to continue that practice.
Plus there is always difference of opinion, beliefs and other factors that play in.
And this is the difference between people that actually do Spirit Work and those that read about it. If you're going to perform a 'summoning' - by definition you are calling something to you. What's the point in wasting your time doing a summoning if you don't think there's anything out there to summon? I just can't wrap my brain around 'I don't think any of this is real but imma gonna go thru the motions'. I don't get it.
And you're right - not everyone wants to practice that way. Not everyone is able to either. How much a person wants to has very little to do with anything. People can do and call things whatever they like. This thread is perfect proof of this. Really.
We're not going to change each other's opinion here. We simply disagree. And when you write about it - I'll pipe up with my 2 cents, you'll fuss and me, we'll carry on like an old married couple for a bit and then we'll quit sidetracking the conversation. Hows that sound to you? [happyface]