Huge sleep paralysis problem !

[xxtraminimal]

Hello, it has been a while since i wrote or even logged in into the forum.
while i studyd a lot....
found much dogma, exercieced, experienced.... But no heavy material. like example: ( no evoking or invoking )
The exercieses i did... are those i dont wont to speak about for the sake of this question,

I am expierening a magor problrem: almost every night, i struggle with sleep paralysis.
i have this as a sympton of a sleepdisorder, just like i mentioned a few more times... in older post.
this happend to me on a monthley basis.

Now it got way more worst ! it happens EVERY NIGHT.
The problem stays every singel time i fall in sleep, never while waking up.
It also feels diffrent...
It feels threatening, i feel like electricity true my body, sometimes it feels like shaking.
if i get out of it, i wand to stand up but i'm to tired ( mentaly ) to even move, when almost falling asleep, it strikes again:

This lasts up for hours [neutral3]

So i came to the point to force me up after the first strike... and even dont trie to get true it !
also this is the reason i stopt all, practice, ( i bearly sleep, i am tired, and not focused )

what is going on ?
what could i trie ?

please ?
GR xxtraminimal

[Caerdon]

have you consulted any doctors at all about this? it could be a rise of a serious medical issue

[xxtraminimal]

yes i did,

i did:

- ct scans
- blood cheks
- X rays of scull
- MRI of my head with contrasting fluid
- LP (Lumbar Puncture / spinal tap )
- i counsulted sleep labo and a Psychiatrist
- Neurodisability tests

All without any result.
also consulting a Psychiatrist and a Neuro- Psychiatrist, non off them can find anything !
i feel not that good for couple of years now, they realy search but there seems nothing to be wrong...

[Caerdon]

Hmm, that's quite an exhaustive list of tests and specialists you've seen. As you have been seeing so many doctors and such I'll keep from asking for the mundane stuff as you are doing everything possible on that front [wink] Well.. besides asking if you've tried exercising either during the day or before bed.

You mentioned that this is the reason you have stopped practicing... what type of practice where you doing when the symptoms started showing up? Was there anything different or out of the ordinary or that caught your attention around the time the symptoms started appearing and got worse?
You also brought up an electrical feeling coursing through you. When you practiced, did you do any energy work as well? Or did you do any astral traveling? Have you gotten any new items or tools for practicing?

Another important question... is there anything that you know or have experienced which can trigger the symptoms to be worse than normal?

[powessy]

Hello xxtraminimal

I have a few questions. Do you feel or hear anything around you during your episodes of sleep paralysis? I for years have had sleep paralysis but they always followed with an astral experience or getting out of body into an obe. I like sleep paralysis and find it relaxing and calming for me it allows me to sleep deeper and get more rest. Do you hear voices? The electrical feeling is to much caffeine or sugar in your diet, the body is trying to shut down but the mind is awake but tired. I always suffered from the electrical feelings when i was a drinker of alcohol and smoked a lot and or drank a lot of pop. Do you sleep on your back or side?

Powessy

[xxtraminimal]

Helo again,

When you practiced, did you do any energy work as well? Or did you do any astral traveling? Have you gotten any new items or tools for practicing?

Yes i did, this was my main focus, started with just feeling energy, then i tried to move it around and in my own body (manipulation).
Then started to see some statics in the air. now it seems like i feel emotional energy of others very well ( like impressions and stuff )
( The onley new items: a few dark grimoirs about invocation and evocation ) but that is just reading stuff.

There was one night ( where i was learning about the healing muisic note on 528 hertz/ and the devils tone ) isochronic tones, and binaural.
so thse i tried to.
then some mantra: ( onley at the piont how to prenounce an Recitate )

MAHA MRITYUNJAYA

Aum Trayambakam Yajamahe,
Sugandhim Pushtivardhanam;
Urva Rukamiva Bandhanaan,
Mrityor Mokshiye Maamritat.

Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra in Hindi


To powessy

to much caffeine or sugar in your diet

I live on a low carb diet for years, onley eat fruits and vegi, seeds and nuts. no red meat almost never chiken and somtimes fish
for the caffeine:
i never consume caffeine after 17.00 hours pm

i Always sleep on my back ( i know why you ask this one )
i just stopt drinking any alcohol for 4 weeks now, before that consumed it somtimes
i do smoke sigarets

Do you feel or hear anything around you during your episodes of sleep paralysis? I for years have had sleep paralysis but they always followed with an astral experience or getting out of body into an obe

it feels heavy, 1 time i heard a realy hard vioce close to my ear millie seconds after coming out of the paralysis. ( sounded like movie demonic voice ) but i ignored it along with the fear it caused. never happend again.

1 time i tried to cream for help, when i heard footsteps beside my bed ( i thought it was my brother ). comming out of it i went to the restroom (downstairs)
where my brother was sleeping on the sofa ( at that piont i dident realize that i could not have been my brother ) the time when i did realized it was on the folowwing night.

And last, getting out of my body is what i trie, but i realy fale at this, Always getting stuck in the stuggle with a realy unpleasing feeling sleep paralysis.
But i do have many lucid dreams.
where in the beginning i could bearly remember a thing, now having a hole collection when waking up.
also gained some control in dreams but more to change scenario when becomming scared, not fully conisousness like in OBE

thank you xxtraminimal

[Desecrated]

This is such a sensitive subject, that I'm not even going to address this to you. Instead I will tell you a story of something a friend went through.

He started doing deep meditation, really really diving into his subconscious and some seriously negative stuff started coming to the surface. He also experienced sleep paralysis and later on panic attacks.
After a long time of trying pretty much everything "normal" he decided to go to a hypnotherapist.
And it turned out that a family member had done some sexual abuse to him as a child.

I'm not saying that this is the same as your case, but some of the sleep paralysis he had, mirrored some of the abuse he had been victim off. It was almost like his memories tried to appear before him using sleep paralysis as a method.

I don't know if that is helpful, and you can flag this post if it is to irrelevant. But maybe there can be some help with hypnosis, or trying to think of the sleep paralysis as we do with normal dream interpretation. Is it somehow a coded message that you can decipher or some sort of clue to what is causing this.

[xxtraminimal]

i neer had abuse or any kind of that.
but we all had, at some time, bad experiences and because of our diffrence in core beliefes it is for one worse then for the other ( speaking of a regular instance )

But that still dos not explain why it is happening so aggresive these days now...
I stuggled a lot when i was going to the stage of adult.
It is just for a year now that i am getting more and more happy about what i am and stand for.

i gained friends, where before that i locked myself out and had nobody.
thought are calming, i realize that everyone has a difficultie and that it's not bad
everything is faling in pieces and is more harmonizing then ever before....

that is why i posted this to the help section, it realy dos have any reason for becoming that aggresive !

i dont know if any the following has to do somthing with it:

as a child ( i think i was like 5 or 6 years old ) i had a expierence in my bed room.
feeling scared, when some nocks on the window where heard. but no one was there, so i closed my eyes again.
then the closeth doors together with the window flew open. i ran to my parents room where my father send me back to my own

when felt afleep that night i had a horrible dream, but so so vived ( and looked like some realm not off this world " not related to the material" )
it was about a demonic materialized entity who said: i gonne consume you.

this sounds so foolish maybe...
But i know my sleep problems started already at that piont, they grew on the age of 16 to 18 and worsend after the age of 20 +

But lets put that beside:

are there thing i can do for myself...
there are things i trie for myself like:

- a clean room: ex: bed is ready to sleep, no mess, not to much decoration etc
- making a very relaxing amosphere in the room ex: dimm lights ( perfer candels on a safe way ), aromatic fregrances, essence: wxhite sage mostley
- the right settings : ex no hard sounds ( tv on very low ) ( tv on dimmed screen) and even better i avoid tv as mutch as possible.
- delaying my sleep: ex not going to bed before i am realy realy tired ( to the piont i fall amost asleep not being in bed )
- listening to soft smooth music
- avoiding energy work before sleep ( becouse i came to the conclsion that it holds my away from my sleep )
- meditation i do evoid at this time (for night) cause i consider it not fitted at the moment, because of my disturbed sleep and onfocus i could call negative emotions instead of doing it right>

also i wanne mention that i am physical very unactive this moment, and i proberly mention this ( answering myself ) that doing that will help ?


are there more things i could do ?

[xxtraminimal]

while eating somthing pop up in my mind.

wwhat if i create a condition, complete seperte from this one.
for the purpuse of sleep and healing, will the bad then lose its energy ?
or would it just be ingorance...

also, it maybe that i'm holding to much attention to the negative i expierence... and by that feed it uncounsiousley?
so if i cut it off would it lose it energy and thereby it's hold/grip, and at the same time giving space to a new one ?

i meant realy making a other purpose for sleep and sort start over, as if the possibelity is already there:
somewhat similar to the law of attrection?

my piont is not to searsh in the past, but to built on the present to become a better future...
other techniques, rites, thought are realy welcome !

thanks in advance
xxtraminimal

[xxtraminimal]

THE MEANING I FORGOT TO SHARE OF THIS MANTRA:

then some mantra: ( onley at the piont how to prenounce an Recitate )MAHA MRITYUNJAYA Aum Trayambakam Yajamahe,Sugandhim Pushtivardhanam;Urva Rukamiva Bandhanaan,Mrityor Mokshiye Maamritat.Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra in Hindi

Summary of the Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra

We worship Shiva - The Three-Eyed (tryambakam) Lord (yajamahe);
Who is fragrant (sugandhim) and nourishes (pushti) and grows (vardhanam) all beings.
As the ripened cucumber (urvarukamiva) is automatically liberated (bandhanaan) (by the intervention of the "farmer") from its bondage to the creeper when it fully ripens;
May He liberate us (mokshiya) from death (mrityor), for the sake of immortality (maamritaat).


We pray to Lord Shiva whose eyes are the Sun, Moon and Fire
May He protect us from all disease, poverty and fear
And bless us with prosperity, longevity and good health.



The Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra is a prayer to Lord Shiva (part of the hindu trinity, the lord of destruction, penance and meditation) for help in overcoming "death". The seeker is more concerned with avoiding spiritual "death" rather than physical "death". The mantra is a request to Lord Shiva to lead us to the mountain of meditation, which is indeed Lord Shiva's abode.

Legend has it that Lord Shiva appeared before his devotee Markandeya (who was destined to die at the age of sixteen) and stopped his aging process a few days before he was supposed to turn sixteen. Thus, death would never be able to claim him! Hence, this mantra is also referred to as the Markandeya mantra in classical hindu studies. The mantra should ideally be repeated 108 times, twice daily, at dawn and at dusk. It is particularly useful for meditation and yoga practice.

Spiritual Significance of the Shiva Mahamantra

Lord Shiva is referred to as tryambakam, the three-eyed one, because his third-eye has been "opened" by the powers of penance and meditation. The third eye is said to be located in the space between the eyebrows, and is "opened" when one experiences spiritual awakening. So, when we pray to Lord Shiva, we are in essence asking for his blessings and assistance in opening our third eye of spiritual knowledge.

The natural consequence of this awakening is that we will be led towards spiritual liberation or moksha, and attain freedom from the cycles of death and rebirth. The goal of chanting this mantra is to spiritually "ripen" so that we can free ourselves Lord Shiva can free us from our bondage to all the material things that bind us!

[Desecrated]

Have you tried any banishing spells to clear the room and yourself?

[xxtraminimal]

Have you tried any banishing spells to clear the room and yourself?

no i diden't. just that mantra but not prenoucing out loud
i used the burning of white sage for 3 weeks to clear toughts and mind, and to remove negativety.

i have to acknowladge that i study much on subjects like; demonology, invocation, evocation, the golden dawn system, the church of vampire, enochian magic, the goetia, the lesser key of solomon, joy of satan, qabbalah, hermetics but never took protection books or way's to banish things to my information, or almost non ( the onley one i have is " the pratical psychic self-defense book" by robert bruce)
but they are not affective while falling insleep...
as they work more on stopping a "direct attack"
i got the books of the gnostics here by samueal aum weor, but for me it is to much dogma...
i also did not studt on the subject of other ritual use or withcaraft / sorcerry for defensive pupose..; onley for active working ( but never, used it )

are there some books or websites you can refer me to ?

thanks,
xxtraminimal

[Caerdon]

You should do some exercising a little bit before going to bed as, I find, if you aren't as physically active then your body will start to get restless, especially at night an when your mind is tired.

Preparation for Energy work, as well as meditation, can bring up alot of hidden stuff from your unconscious mind which can affect you in alot of different ways, including some somatic symptoms. It's due to the altered mindspace you enter and how deeply you enter the inner self.
Working with energy can also start creating build ups which can also cause adverse effects on you, depending how much you did and how often you practiced and just general aptitude. You begin to start accumulating extra energy naturally and unconsciously, which is alright when you actively practice, but if you stop it will start to need an outlet. Have you felt any sudden increases or bursts of needing to move or do something, or felt any undue and non-localized pressure/pulsing/throbbing? (One of my main focuses of practice is energy work, which I have been doing for quite a while. Self taught, but also went through alot of learning from my mistakes).
It might be helpful to do a bit of energy work during the day. Nothing major, but just some exercises and practices.

You mentioned moving the energy throughout your body. Have you ever worked with Aura manipulation, or Aura's in general? Or even work with the Etheric Body? I ask because as you manipulated energy in and through your body, you could have accidentally shifted something in your aura, or introduced something new to it. Have you felt any symptoms or feelings of illness during the day at all during this time that you have been having the sleep paralysis episodes?
Also, what energy did you manipulate inside your body? Did you take some in from outside sources, or just concentrate then move your own personal energies? An important thing to realize is that certain energies do not mix and can be dangerous, as well as there being energies that, without proper preparation, can be harmful to you.

Anyways, with some of the new information you've given, it could be an entity that is affecting you. How much can you do with energy manipulation? Can you sense and tell the difference between different types of energies? Can you shape your own protections and shields via energy manipulation? Can you make, say, a shield or an energy construct that you create sustain itself for a period of time without you actively concentrating on it or feeding it with your own energy reservoir? (I'm sure that you can see where I'm getting at for what to do by what I'm asking [wink] )

Now, for the grimoirs you just acquired. Are they pre-owned, or are you the first owner?

Finally (atleast for now), you should do a cleansing ritual (there's some posted on this site) for not only yourself, but also for your living space and sleeping space, as well as a banishing ritual. It may be needed to be done a few times, though this is assuming it is an entity or some left over negative energy imprints. I somewhat have an idea of your current capabilities in energy work (I could be wrong in my assumption and assessments) based on what you've been saying about it, so I'll wait on making any recommendations on using that for any banishing or cleansing.

Welp, that's it for me for now. [thumbup]

[powessy]

xxtraminimal said
And last, getting out of my body is what i trie, but i realy fale at this, Always getting stuck in the stuggle with a realy unpleasing feeling sleep paralysis.
But i do have many lucid dreams.
where in the beginning i could bearly remember a thing, now having a hole collection when waking up.
also gained some control in dreams but more to change scenario when becomming scared, not fully conisousness like in OBE


hello xxtraminimal

The sleep paralysis part is not going to be easy until you get rid of the underlying problem and that is what I call a sperteil. The voice you heard and footsteps are these entities. When ever you awaken from sleep paralysis and feel afraid just say to yourself find powessy and they will. These entities use names and user names as phone numbers to find minds so this method will be the fastest you can use to get rid of them.

You say you have many astral or Ld experiences these can also be brought on by them as they pull your mind into theirs. Look to the experience to find these answers. If people you know start to pop up all the time ones you have not thought about in a long time this is them pulling these thoughts from your mind, you will know what should be and not be in your dreams and whether they have changed or have stayed the same. Sparteil mark you by creating a copy of you inside of themselves that acts as a teleporter for them to move from person to person. If they are with you, you will suffer sleep paralysis but this is also a function of the soul and mind as it enters into itself and they are not present. I have had thousands and thousands of experiences with sleep paralysis and have experienced almost every scenario under the sun with them and with me entering into my mind to experience astral projections and the astral plains or obes.

The heavy on your chest will leave you if you tell it to find powessy but it also sounds like you are having other problems. Normally when your soul tries to enter into itself you are asking questions about things or trying to find answers to things so I would try doing this during awaken meditation from now on. If you are lying on your back for experiences in LD and obe you must get rid of the sparteil first. I would try to sleep on your side for a few nights or change your position so your extremities do not fall asleep. Over the years I found that placing my elbows 90 degrees from my torso and hands interlocked my arms would fall asleep. This feeling exasperated the experiences I had with sleep paralysis. If your mind is trying to enter itself to find answers it will not matter what position you lay in these experiences will not stop till your mind is silenced with questions.

As for obe and sleep paralysis as part of separation I can tell you this much stop fighting it, if the sparteilis with you he/she is not their to harm you but to find answers to things you are asking. Just relax and in only a minute you will fall into phase and into the astral, I have done this so many times you are not in danger.

Powessy

[xxtraminimal]

thanks for the reply's !
Witht these i can do somthing for sure !

You mentioned moving the energy throughout your body. Have you ever worked with Aura manipulation, or Aura's in general

yes etheric energy! to stimulate it on the surface on the skin, then to move it tue jionts merg and bones.
this was for increasing my general energy.

to find a way off mapping my energybody chart.
i did this with Robert's Bruce- energy work. for a basic method. staring on the secondary energy centers and the "energy exhance pores".
Later on i would proceed to the primary energy centers "chakras".

But i never got that far, because of everyday training i begun to felt tired and gave me myself rest.
then after a couple of weeks i bought his other book; Mastering Astral Projection 90 day guide to out-of-body expierence, because i had diffeculties for getting a routine and sheme to follow. ( i never got in to the 90 days and gave myself all the time ).
( they Always begin with: relaxation, then breath awareness and breath techniques )

but also here i got stuck...

Have you felt any symptoms or feelings of illness during the day at all during this time that you have been having the sleep paralysis episodes?

i have a annoying pressure in my head ( that is the reson for visiting so manny docters btw )
since enrgy work i see my hearbeat in my vision, like my heart i beating in my eyes. (onley when i become very still)
i feel pressure between my eyes, and i hear a pulsing sound coming from the crown of my head ( i can feel it to when laying down at night )

for the feeling of energy: - somtimes i feel like a electric sensation on my skin, coming out of nothing.
- a chill from head true my spine ( tis seems to tell me if somthing is true or false ), or if i have to go on with it or leave it
- Empathy grew strongley
- somtimes i hear the electric current of a divice ( witch no one alse seem to hear )
- ( its more like my emotions mimic the emotions and feelings those colse to me )
- also the awereness of sensing someones body heat grew strongley

If people you know start to pop up all the time ones you have not thought about in a long time this is them pulling these thoughts from your mind, you will know what should be and not be in your dreams and whether they have changed or have stayed the same

my dreams are like 70 % things off the past or thing i fear but had overcome due time ( that witch i remeber )
also when trying to come over some one, and i finally am at the piont where i can, they pop up again - so my mind is then thinkg again about them

when i posted the dream expiernce as a chiled about a entity, afterwards my bro and me cleaned his room and a picture of me togheter with him on the age of 6 feld on the floor. i picked it up and was thinking for holding to myself ( but desided to not so )

these are just some exaples from thing happen "by change" ?
i see them more like similareties but i can be wrong ...

Thanks you !
Xx..

[Caerdon]

Alright, I think I got what's happening (atleast in part). You started running when you just learned the basics of walking in energy work... you started doing more advanced things than you where prepared to do. As you said, you never got really far in your training.

i have a annoying pressure in my head ( that is the reson for visiting so manny docters btw )
since enrgy work i see my hearbeat in my vision, like my heart i beating in my eyes. (onley when i become very still)
i feel pressure between my eyes, and i hear a pulsing sound coming from the crown of my head ( i can feel it to when laying down at night )

I've had these symptoms (or similar enough ones) plus a few more in my time of learning to manipulate energy. It's not uncommon, especially for self-taught practitioners, which I'm assuming you are. You're lucky, they seem to be quite mild compared to some that I've had... sofar you don't seem to have been afflicted with taking in harmful energies, which can lead to feelings like thick sludge is running through your veins or a constant ache weighing down on all your joints and any part that you had an extreme injury on your body (such as a place you had a broken bone).

What you've done is opened yourself to an increase in energy within your system as well as a sensitivity to energy. The pressure and pulsing is the accumulated and increase in energy needing an outlet, whereas the heartbeat thing is, if it's what I've experienced, is just your energy being in sync with your heartbeat. Basically, by using that stillness and focusing on the beating of your heart you begin to notice the energy emission that your body naturally releases,and by focusing on that energy that is released in concert with your heartbeat you can actually begin to pick up on certain things.

For the other things for energy, you seem to be able to pick up on certain sources of energy as well as the sense of energy emissions. It's all common stuff and all others that I know who does energy work also are sensitive to these things (body heat, hearing the electrical current of devices, increase in empathy, etc). However, I was more getting to if you can separate the different types of energy around you and with what you work with, going from the 4 classical cardinal elements (earth, air, fire, water) to just about any other type (i.e. the different wavelengths used by the different entities you may encounter, or even the emotional energy produced by crowds of people, or just the ambient static energy in the air around you)

Of course, on top of all of this, you've also manipulated your etheric body, which is the running before the walking part. It is extremely dangerous to work with the etheric body. You have to understand and study the system before you even attempt to touch it. It's one thing to read about it from a book, another thing to understand and experience it. You should have meditated and learned to sense it and study it first, become aware of how it differs from your physical system , on how it works before trying to make any manipulations and changes towards it.
You need to go back and start doing some basic energy work, but leave exploring your etheric body and energy networks until you get better practice at energy manipulation. You really should not have begun messing around with your etheric self before you knew what you where doing. Even the "safest" things to do with it can cause problems if you make any mistakes as it will affect your whole system as well as your body. It is an extremely delicate system, very easy to put in disorder, which is why beginners should never attempt to manipulate any etheric system, not your own and especially not others.

Feeling drained after energy practice is very common, especially if you are using your internal storage of energy. With regular practice this internal source of energy can expand. You will also feel tired and drained when using external sources as well. Usually you can go for longer, however you are still directing it with your own energy and will, and it does still cause strain to your system. But as i said, you need to do more basic energy training, such as making an energy ball in one hand and passing it to your other hand (making sure it stays whole during the whole journey and doesn't collapse or become a stream) and then making it go back. Or you can do the basic candle flame manipulation trick, where you concentrate on a candle's flame and manipulate it's movements with your energy. Those two are probably the best to get a better sense of how your energy system works, and if you couple that with meditation for just sensing your energetic/etheric system, then you'll start to progress faster to the point where you understand enough to begin working with your etheric body itself, as well as give you a better awareness of your energetic self, which i am beginning to suspect that, with your foray into astral projection techniques, can also be part of your sleeping problem as you are just not aware enough or have enough control over your energetic self.
Anyways, the practices should also make your headaches feel better as well. If you want or need some specifics or advice or anything (even just clarification) just PM me, I'll be happy to help!

[xxtraminimal]

Thank you !

[Dalovey]

Is there a chance your trying to project? I remember when I was younger I would get a feeling much like what you described even the fear. The only difference was at times it got to the point of pulsing threw my body. It used to happen almost every night. Sometimes before I went to sleep sometimes in paralysis. I eventually figured out that my soul was trying to leave my body and I was fighting it. This frightened me greatly because I miss understood what was trying to be said as I didn't understand what an OBE was and I was fighting it badly. I had days of being just tired out of my mind because of it. I almost slept in lots of classes and upset some teachers. It's not fun in fact it's terrifying I thought I had some sleep disorder but I actually had a bit of a restless mind. The only thing I can tell you to do is relax and go back to sleep. Focus on the fact that your body is sleeping and you will wake up a few minutes later. If you do that you may wake up naturally and with less of a fight. I used to wake up crying once screaming and it freaked my mother out badly.

When I figured this out they slowly and I mean slowly died out. Eventually I started leaving my body still having no clue that I was doing this. Just focus on your body not the feelings and fight back the fear by not allowing it. Let yourself drift off to sleep again. If it helps meditate or try some astral meditations. I don't know about anyone else but being a natural at a gift gives you more of a chance of loosing control of it if you don't train it. I leave my body at random because I trained my body to relax that much and let me rest.

I hope this helped in some way.

[xxtraminimal]

Is there a chance your trying to project

yes i did, in the beginning...
Then stopt because nothing happend but at the same time i could not sleep.

if i reconstruct it this is wat i remember before it strikes;

- i go to bed struggling to sleep
- at a piont i stop fighting the fact i can not falasleep ( i start focusing myself on relaxation )
- at a piont i become very numb
- then the urge to move drops out completley
- then i notice that my breating drasticly slows down. ( it gets deeper en slower with every breath )
- then it gets black
- and as last, right after te blackness; heaviness and electric energie true my body follows.

( somtimes i even can't realize where i am orientated in the room )

thanks inprogress

[superhitman]

I think spirits are feeding on you and keeping you in this situation, you should get into angelology and choose and angel to pray to like urreechoelle pray to him in the days and hours of the moon and remember that the time is relative to your clock. And if you want you can do the banishing ritual of the earth pentagram and hexagram and it will help out alot and solve your problem eventually.

[xxtraminimal]

Helo, afzien here i am.
I have noticed that my sleep paralysis is somehow related to spiritual practice.
I stopt my practice for a long time. Like for 6 mounths.
I started my practice since 2 weeks ago, and again had the first sleep paralysis attack in mouths.

Onley this time i had the force to actual raise both arms.
I remember that when iT occured. The room blackend more and my sight became focused and narrowed. Like a tunnel vieuw pointes to my door. But i did not see anything. I never have hallucinating factoren along with iT. ( altleast not in sight, 1 audiotory happening, hearing a scary vioce that i a short Sence Saïd somthing i could bot understand.)

Greetings

[xxtraminimal]

I think spirits are feeding on you and keeping you in this situation, you should get into angelology and choose and angel to pray to like urreechoelle pray to him in the days and hours of the moon and remember that the time is relative to your clock. And if you want you can do the banishing ritual of the earth pentagram and hexagram and it will help out alot and solve your problem eventually.

Is lucifer an angel to ? Or do you see HIM as demon/fallen ?
What is your vision of angel ?

There are two angels i feel drawn to

A) lucifer
B) lilith

Dont ask me why

[CCoburn]

This is just Spirits messing with you because you are practicing the Occult. I deal with this too, but don't consider it a problem. You could do as Desecrated said and do a Banishing Ritual. I will do this eventually, when I'm ready to clear things up.

I never see any Shadow People, or anything else. But I can sense a presence sometimes, either before or during a SP episode. Don't be surprised if the SP initiates an OBE. Which has been my experience.

If the context of the SP becomes too ominous, then it probably should be dealt with by a banishing or similar, also, don't freak out. Just relax and breathe and move your eyes and/or wiggle your toes to help restore your major motor functions.

Cheers

[powessy]

I deal with the shadows all the time if you want to better understand this problem I have started to make some videos to better illustrate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDMxwqlSq_g
This is the 3rd video I made to show how all this is happening, to understand it even more you will need to also watch the first two they can be found by typing my user name in the search box on youtube.

Powessy

[chowderpope]

Powessy thank you for your posts here and your videos, very interesting material.