Shadow people seems to be another phenomenon, or something related but different.the_spiral wrote:Shadow people?
I know Charles Leadbeater has a book or two about astral worlds.
Shadow people seems to be another phenomenon, or something related but different.the_spiral wrote:Shadow people?
I can't remember who said this, but these creatures are always weaker than we are. We are connected to the life force, we have that inside of us, and the only way they can get it is through us. That is why we can reject them and banish them. A single candle will give light no mater how dark the room is.chowderpope wrote:That's interesting. It seems to be that these particular beings are definitely intelligent, but pathetic and dependent in a way.
It seems to depend on his attention, or energy, so it uses certain tactics to constantly get as much as it can. I imagine it as some kind of astral crackhead who just perpetually wants another hit.
I can quote Hermes Trismegistus here:fraterai wrote:Example - okay, you woke up with a shadow person over you.
No wait - you woke up with a blackmistman person over you.
How does this help when I actually have one standing over me? I can say "are you a shadow person?" "Yes/No". He could have lied, for one. I am always going to have to dig deeper no matter what.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything but you have to think of the end game. Who cares if this thing is an astral parasite or a demon? (No one suggested it could even be another wizard). The mage wants to banish it. How do you do that? Banishing.
You can do anything you want. If something changes, update the table.fraterai wrote:I really don't think you CAN do it for astral entities, that was my point. How would you do this when they change as often as people? 777 contains qualities that are eternal, not beings that are mutable. This is why grimmoires are so vague, try and write a description of yourself that fits in a Goetia paragraph and is true for your entire life
All you need is a general description, and yes, I believe there isfraterai wrote:spida - We see it differently
Des - parasite works well right? They are garbage, "tiny" (in power/hierarchy), and their primary function is to leach energy
Parasites are more animal like. A lot of people describe them as jellyfish looking. And they can grow bigger. But I don't perceive them as being overly intelligent, like knowing our languages and being able to communicate with us.fraterai wrote:spida - We see it differently
Des - parasite works well right? They are garbage, "tiny" (in power/hierarchy), and their primary function is to leach energy
I don't know how much traction Josephine McCarthy's work gets around here but she describes this phenomenon in "The Exorcist's Handbook", it's actually quite common and one of the main dangers of EVP/paranormal dabbling. Another issue is that human ghosts can degrade over time and become "shells", and malevolent non-human entities (I still think it's a generalization to call them all "demons" but it's the easiest English word) can infest their etheric/astral bodies and manipulate them like puppets. I've had this experience in dealing with hauntings myself, where I first assumed I was communicating with a trapped human spirit and eventually realized it was something else. That's closer to the scenario I felt the OP's friend was dealing with after reading his full account. Unfortunately those can be very tricky attachments to break (which is why it's better not to form them in the first place) but it sounds like ignoring them is working for him so he should keep doing that until they lose interest.fraterai wrote:bringing this back around to the original post, it's probably a demon (or human, dead or alive). Success in EVP and subsequent chaos are always the result of one of these two, sometimes both. There are many haunting stories that came to the conclusion that a demon was trapping human spirits, and using both to haunt places/people.
Strong will. Strong voice. Strong words. No fear.chowderpope wrote:Speaking of protection, while we're on the subject: What would you guys use for protection from this type of thing?
Obviously avoiding activities that could invite these things would be important. Other than that I've been using salt around the house and doing the LBRP semi-regularly. I'm interested in what you do personally for protection though.
I like using plants.chowderpope wrote:Speaking of protection, while we're on the subject: What would you guys use for protection from this type of thing?
Obviously avoiding activities that could invite these things would be important. Other than that I've been using salt around the house and doing the LBRP semi-regularly. I'm interested in what you do personally for protection though.