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autodydact wrote:Codex Seraphinianus. I'm very fortunate to own a copy. It takes a bit of translating, but I promise you the contents are pure evil.
What's your definition of evil? I love going into the original text and not only translating the text but looking up the meanings and origins of the words.

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autodydact wrote:Codex Seraphinianus. I'm very fortunate to own a copy. It takes a bit of translating, but I promise you the contents are pure evil.
Then you need to read it again. Serafini himself has explained most of it.

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Desecrated wrote:All good suggestions, but lets keep ourself to the occult.

So black magic. What is the blackest?

Picatrix, lesser keys, De praestigiis daemonum, SImons necronomicon :)
It's true; American Psycho is not occult (it was an indulgence I couldn't keep out of my post!)

But I would argue that Blood Meridian does deal with the mysteries. Even if it is presented in a fictional setting. It is not a manual, but an account. Also, certainly a suggestion in a different vein; I'm happy to leave it at that, and let the thread be on its darkly merry way! ;D

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I just had a funny thought: if anyone wanted to use Leviticus as a basis of their work that could be pretty disturbing considered in modern context; like Santeria on rocket-fuel. At a minimum PITA would hate it and APL would definitely be keeping a close eye. Just a warning to anyone who wanted to restart the Levitical priesthood in full though - they'd need to start themselves on statins at least a year before joining and stay on them for the rest of their lives; that's a LOT of charred steak.
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I think nominating "The Bible" is a little vague. The Bible is a collection of books. Really, a couple of collections. 39 Old Testament books and 27 New Testament, so "The Bible" is 66 books. Some of them are dark and dangerous, others are like fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows. Genesis has it's dark moments, but I definitely don't call it 'evil'. Exodus has that awesome battle of the wizards. The temple wizards turn staffs into snakes, Moses turns his into a snake that eats their snakes. In your face, Bitches. He ups it with stuff ranging from slapstick funny frog rain to the really not funny killing of first born children by the thousand. I don't remember if Joshua putting the people of a city to the sword was Exodus or Hebrews, but that was some harsh shite right there. Anyway, Exodus may not be a truly evil grimoire of black magic, but there is some harsh magic in there. My Biblical knowledge is pretty weak, but for the sake of discussion I'll nominate Leviticus as the dark volume on the Bible books. There be some smoting and smiting in that one, along with guidance as to what people you should own as slaves (must be from neighboring countries, so let me know if you have any Canadians for sale.)

On a more modern note, "Might is Right" by "Ragnar Redbeard" (obvious pen name of unknown writer.)It was the basis, indeed whole sections lifted en masse, for LeVay's "Satanic Bible" (according to Anton LeVay himself in the forward to the edition of Might is Right that I have.) Might is Right was written around the turn of the last century and is as hard nosed as you can hope for. While not "magical" in nature, it is about rising over those lesser than yourself and crushing, any weaker than yourself for your own gain. The focus of the Will of the strong is indeed a base block of occultism. While the book doesn't get into a recommended magickal path, it repudiates Christianity as a doctrine of weakness meant to enslave suckers. It describes Christ as a mediocre, tortured Jew and meekness as stupidity and the ethos of those deserving the yoke. Harsh, racist (much in there denigrating those 'less' than the white race, the author's position not mine), and without pleasantry. I haven't read The Satanic Bible, but since it is in large part a derivative work I suspect the original "Might is Right" to be maybe even more evil a text.

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Visrite wrote:
What's your definition of evil? I love going into the original text and not only translating the text but looking up the meanings and origins of the words.
Desecrated wrote: Then you need to read it again. Serafini himself has explained most of it.
I was being mischievous. ;) The book is untranslatable and its author (Serafini) claims that the text was largely dictated to him by a stray cat. As you say Desecrated, the decodex included in the most recent edition does explain the nature of the book and that it is untranslatable. Is this true or not? I am undecided. Is the contents evil? I am certain it isn't (certainly not by any standards I hold). I do have a copy and it is quite possibly the gem of my library (and for what it cost me, it deserves to be!) A lovely book to pour over for the shear enjoyment of its beauty and definitely a nice addition to any evening spent under the influence of certain substances.

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Desecrated wrote: The Quran is not that bad actually. I have the latest most accurate translation of it and it's really not that violent. Some parts of it actually makes sense.
Women have a lot more rights in the quran then they have in the bible.
BUT! Just like christianity. Most people who claim to be muslims, have never read the quran. (Most christians, have never read the bible).
The communist manifesto still wins. With about 20 million people murdered. And that count is still ticking.
Bible and Quran have been used in the occult I don't think the communist manifesto has.

autodydact wrote:Codex Seraphinianus. I'm very fortunate to own a copy. It takes a bit of translating, but I promise you the contents are pure evil.
Once again it doesnt seem like an occult book but wtf! have sex, turn into crocodiles??!?!?!

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Does anyone have a link to the black books of the bible, the ones taken out of the king James version? Like the one that closely resembles Sumarian legend. Book of Enoch I believe. I'd be very interested in English versions of them.

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Visrite wrote:Does anyone have a link to the black books of the bible, the ones taken out of the king James version? Like the one that closely resembles Sumarian legend. Book of Enoch I believe. I'd be very interested in English versions of them.
There were no books taken out of king james bible, It's just an english translation of textus receptus.

But book of enoch and such are christian books that did not get into the bible and are sometimes know as Apocrypha, Deuterocanonical books and non-canonical.

You also have gnostic and other sects.

Anyhow. Dover publications has a good version of the book of enoch for 8 dollars.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Book-Enoch-Do ... noch+dover



A newer and more accurate version can be found here: (but with a higher pricetag)

http://www.amazon.com/Enoch-Translation ... 0800636945

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shaded_shadow wrote:
autodydact wrote:Codex Seraphinianus. I'm very fortunate to own a copy. It takes a bit of translating, but I promise you the contents are pure evil.
Once again it doesnt seem like an occult book but wtf! have sex, turn into crocodiles??!?!?!
Isn't that what happens to you? I'm pretty sure that's the innermost sexual secret of the O.T.O... The one that got Crowley initiated the the IX degree.

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Latawnya the Naughty Horse.
Half-assed pun about the arcane.

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I only read page one, but I feel this deserves and honorable mention.

The Psychopath's Bible for the Extreme Individual.

It is indeed an occult book. Not that evil or terrifying per say, but what you can do with the information is quite astounding.
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I beleive that. I once read a book titled 'How to tell if you married a psychopath.' It was quite informative.
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Mein Kampf,

Herbert Spencer's writings

Or Ayn Rand's work can be considered the most evil.

As for the communist manifesto, the opposite of Herbert Spencer's philosophy? I've read it and the people who used it as an excuse don't represent many of its ideas. The Paris Commune of 1871 was probably the best or most close representation of it. It's about establishing rule of the majority/collective where the individual has no "protection" from the collective in terms of getting a say. An actual Democracy instead of a republic in other words. Giving absolute power to the masses/collective to a point where it becomes where they dictate everything.

Good part of that is that the democratic system and rights are brought into the workplace, employers are elected and can be impeached.

It's political theory is based on the idea that humans are a product of the system they live in, so it claims that therefore if socialism has been around for awhile where greed is not needed to succeed or survive then greed will cease to exist in human nature in future generations. Then eventually the state can be dissolved to reach "Communism". It technically teaches that greed is the source of all suffering.

Leninism is probably the one your talking about. It shifted away from that original notion. About creating a party that was supposed to represent and serve the interests of the majority.

It holds some good ideas or values such as protecting the weak, free social services, workers' rights and workplace-democracy but the philosophy was hijacked by power hungry individuals who wanted to use it to justify their actions and gain popularity.

Marxism as a belief system or philosophy advocates abolition of tradition such as gender roles too and opposes all social conservatism in favour of equality and social liberalism.Whether you think that's good or bad that's up to you. I think this indicates it was built on the idea of "benevolent/beneficial chaos".

Pol Pot himself openly confessed he never believed in it and just wanted nationalism, etc for example.

You need to read a book to see what each ideas they teach before you compare. Judge a book by its contents, not the cover. I could say that the current U.S democracy's texts are evil because of the recently released CIA torture reports that also mention very horrifying and inhumane tortures.

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satans bible of coarse for im a Satanist and ill back up religion control for they bargain and lend the left path and ill back it in every home

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Desecrated wrote:
Picatrix, lesser keys, De praestigiis daemonum, SImons necronomicon :)
Shouldn't The Goetia be on this list?

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Jaq wrote:
Desecrated wrote:
Picatrix, lesser keys, De praestigiis daemonum, SImons necronomicon :)
Shouldn't The Goetia be on this list?

But they are so nice and helpful. Mischievous at times but you get what you ask for.

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Anyone else read "Alhazred: Author of the Necronomicon" by Donald Tyson?

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The Grand Grimoire, The Red Dragon, Gospel of Satan

Have we talked about these yet? PDFs?

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Visrite wrote:The Grand Grimoire, The Red Dragon, Gospel of Satan

Have we talked about these yet? PDFs?
All christian :D

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Seriously? lmao

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There is no evil book, only the people using them are.

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Vovi wrote:There is no evil book, only the people using them are.
Yes and no. Things, for example, like guns are simply tools. They are not and cannot be good or evil any more than can any other traditional non-living matter. As a tool the morality of use is done by the user.

However, any tool can be imbued, enchanted, or otherwise haunted with a spiritual energy that could, in theory, be evil. Additionally, depending on the contents of the tool specified here, a book, how the content was created could have some residual non-entity energies. For example if the contents of a book recorded the torture, suffering, and death of many people while in the presence of these events? That, somewhat psychic energy from the pain could, again in theory, taint the book in someway that those who can sense such things would feel it. Finally, there are also other entities that wish to use a physical medium to attach to in order to more easily gain access to those in the physical realm, this is similar to the first. Having a physical connection forged through spiritual means would act more so as a gateway for said entity to reach out and interact or influence those in physical proximity.
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Stukov wrote:[
Yes and no. Things, for example, like guns are simply tools.
A gun is evil, because it made to destroy.
It doesn't mater if it is a human, an animal or a clay tablet. You point it, fire, and it destroys the target.
That is what a gun is made for.

A knife might be both good and evil because it can be a surgeons knife or a butcher knife. But as far as I know there is no helpful way to use a gun.

Apparently/unfortunately there is no book that is created to kill and harm others.
There is no book I can read and suddenly my neighbors kneecaps just blows of.
Or if you turn the book towards you and read it, your head explodes.

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Desecrated wrote:
Stukov wrote:[
Yes and no. Things, for example, like guns are simply tools.
A gun is evil, because it made to destroy.
It doesn't mater if it is a human, an animal or a clay tablet. You point it, fire, and it destroys the target.
That is what a gun is made for.

A knife might be both good and evil because it can be a surgeons knife or a butcher knife. But as far as I know there is no helpful way to use a gun.

Apparently/unfortunately there is no book that is created to kill and harm others.
There is no book I can read and suddenly my neighbors kneecaps just blows of.
Or if you turn the book towards you and read it, your head explodes.
Could use a gun to blow said kneecaps off too.
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