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landing wrote:I thought i shouldn't send a curse back no matter how damaged it made my life, but recently i watched a few youtube videos,the teachers said u could send it back if u felt a black curse was on you, especially in voodoo, they believe u can even send black curse to someone who has the potention to harm your family but u need to be v careful since the person'guardian will fight for him and attack u.

If i can send a curse back, i shall send back to the " energy" or the person?

a while ago i read on a spell forum a woman broke her family curse by travelling to astral plane working out the things there, but she didnt tell how she worked out there.....so, the real question is, how?

another question is, if i m unbalanced in energy , but there is an urgent situation which in need of a ritual or at least a prayer to protect and direct, can i do it? i read books say u can only do a ritual when u r in a balanced mood.....
a ritual needs a lot energy and a lot preparation, if i cant do , then how about some urgent prayers? prayers r just word, doesnt need much energy....

landing wrote:Thank u....
i v been reading the links down on your list, wow, so many good things.... [yay]
i just hope i can have more time and i know about magick earlier, then i won't waste my time doing a lot meaningless efforts.
regarding the shielding, i m right now using a white light ball and a golden light bathing, but it doesnt help much, since my aura is really very heavy, like i said, i still need to find a spell or something to deal it, lol.....
but i need patience for now, cos i need firstly to learn many things.....

landing wrote:I can't try that u know....
cos its not about someone, i feel its a some power from other side of say universe.....do we have books by josephine mccarthy here on this forum?

5.) Perform a cleansing spell on one's self, home, and car.

Before dawn, brew up some herbs with the magical reputation of removing evil, such a hyssop, rue, mint, agrimony, angelica root, basil, etc. Strain the resulting tea and pour it in your bathwater. Take two white candles, a cup, and your bible into the bathroom with you. Light the candles and place them on the floor with enough room between them to walk through. Strip and enter the bath. Recite Psalm 23 if you are innocent. If you have done wrong then recite Psalm 51. Take the cup and pour water over your head. You can just do it an odd number of times but no more than 13 times. Let the water run down you. You will then brush yourself in a downwards fashion from your head to your feet , not forgetting the soles of your feet, in order to remove the curse. Exit the bathtub and walk backwards between the two lit candles. Do not towel off. Let yourself air-dry. When you are dry, blow out the candles, dress and fill your mop bucket with the bathwater. You can then let out any remaining water in the tub. Add your favorite soap or cleanser to the mop water and you will mop/scrub starting from the back of your home to the front. Wipe down all windowsills and doorways. Pay close attention to your front door and porch. Scrub your porch and front stairs. When finished, take the bucket and throw the contents toward the east or the rising sun. Go back inside the house and light a white candle dressed with uncrossing oil. Light uncrossing incense or else one can use a smudge stick if one prefers. Read Psalm 23 and pray to God in your own words that he remove the evil influence or curse.

For your car, save some of the bathwater and use it to wash your car. Light some uncrossing incense in the interior or else sprinkle some holy water on the upholstery. Read the 23 Psalm in the car.

house6and12 wrote:your right the strongest craft learn how to be aware but dont use a system let yourself feel the method that is yours the self made the term is agegore there spirits u gave life too but if they have a name they have free will thats no more artificial then saying u gave birth

bathtub-alchemist wrote: I said man-made, I didn't say artificial [wink] ....They began as something less, but now are autonomous.

house6and12 wrote:me and my twins soul where millina old but we only observe

Cerber wrote:

bathtub-alchemist wrote: I said man-made, I didn't say artificial [wink] ....They began as something less, but now are autonomous.

Careful, they might run away. I just summon my beasts when I need them an d recombine afterwards, they go back to the source, and they never entirely separate, merely an extension of me. Battles I'm sometimes forced to fight separate, autonomous "fairies" would not survive. But in general I'm mostly immune to poison and I get warned in advance of any direct attacks on me or my "assets" by my "guardian angel" on the other side. But I mostly deal with agregores (the greater scale ones) and not individuals, at least lately.

house6and12 wrote:me and my twins soul where millina old but we only observe

What do you observe? What requires such close up?

bathtub-alchemist wrote:
I have had a couple run away. I haven't held it against them

Cerber wrote:

bathtub-alchemist wrote:
I have had a couple run away. I haven't held it against them

Can't blame them, it's in their nature

bathtub-alchemist wrote: absolutely. my children will move out one day too, providing they survive that long. They carry a piece of my soul as well

Cerber wrote:

bathtub-alchemist wrote: absolutely. my children will move out one day too, providing they survive that long. They carry a piece of my soul as well

I still sometimes wonder where some of my kids, hoping they are OK and managed to find their place in the greater world somewhere. One can never quite forget something that was part of you, in a way.

bathtub-alchemist wrote:

house6and12 wrote:your right the strongest craft learn how to be aware but dont use a system let yourself feel the method that is yours the self made the term is agegore there spirits u gave life too but if they have a name they have free will thats no more artificial then saying u gave birth

I said man-made, I didn't say artificial [wink] ....They began as something less, but now are autonomous.

I avoid the use of the word egragore or servator, but you're on the right track.

I strongly caution against creating such things....the cost is often great.

The cost has been worth it to me thus far, I consider it an investment....but there's still time on my clock...things could turn around at any moment

house6and12 wrote:

bathtub-alchemist wrote:

house6and12 wrote:your right the strongest craft learn how to be aware but dont use a system let yourself feel the method that is yours the self made the term is agegore there spirits u gave life too but if they have a name they have free will thats no more artificial then saying u gave birth

I said man-made, I didn't say artificial [wink] ....They began as something less, but now are autonomous.

I avoid the use of the word egragore or servator, but you're on the right track.

I strongly caution against creating such things....the cost is often great.

The cost has been worth it to me thus far, I consider it an investment....but there's still time on my clock...things could turn around at any moment

the cost is never set yes all things have an inborn nature, but if you understand that nature and it has self aware thought what it becomes like any human is base less on choices but what our environment teaches us the old saying you beat a dog enough times and it will attack any man