Amor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:31 am
>"there is no ONE supreme being/entity/creator/architect", and other teachings, paradigms, gnosis that state the opposite to that, would be/is considered "fundamentally wrong"
No doubt you are aware of the concept of the Earth Mother. Many native peoples have that intelligence as central to their meaning of life.
If the Earth Mother is alive (Gaia theory) then the other planets should be alive as well.
And if the other planets are alive then probably the solar system is an entity also. The intelligence driving the solar system is referred to as the Solar Logos. This is not the same as the Ancient of Days nor the Ancient of Ancients.
Then if the solar system is alive, the galaxy must be alive also, and the universe. That is certainly my daily experience.
Yes, that's how many people been seeing the whole thing, many including me actually, at least for a while. Makes sense, simple, easy to digest, relatively. That idea of all being part of greater whole, by design, or by some fundamental law of nature at the quantum level of our reality, just makes sense. And it even has some parallels in our everyday, in our scale observable reality. For example, in some way, I , as a sentient individual, am a sentient manifestation, a greater sentience, of the millions, maybe even billions (I don't have exact number on top of my head) of all those cells my body is made of, each of them being an individual, having a life, interacting with environment, and who's to say a single cell is not a living organism, and not sentient one in their own right, just because they are small and communicate with chemical signals and not by vibrating gases around them?
But, when I start looking deeper, poking some finer details of that concept, some things don't quite line up, it appears. When I actually start studying egregores, interacting with them, closely, hanging out with them, observe them in their "natural habitats", even watch them born... All things didn't quite "align" the way I imagined initially.
And from my experience so far, it seems that, while it's natural to expect any given "chuck of physical reality" (like a chuck of meat of my body) to have a "spiritual/astral manifestation" (a soul) it's not necessarily so. And then egregores seem manifest in more complex manner than I initially thought. There seem to be two part of the whole, two sides of the coin. First there is the "enviroment", an astral place, like a container, a shell of it.
While I'm not yet sure what are the exact factors that define the shape or size of the "enviromental" part of manifestations, usually if you connect to some community, for example, and go explore it in that "spiritual/astral plane", you usually going to find some place, maybe it's just a small building, maybe a whole buzzing town, or small garden, suspended in the the void like a snow globe from a toy shop (any shapes and forms we can imagine and more).
And if we enter that "egregore-place" we can often can find the second part of manifestation: egregore-person. Like a local deity, lord/lady of the place. But(!) not necessarily so. What I found so far, sometimes they are gone and the entirely place is just en empty place, abandoned and deserted, other times, the place is still alive but the "original spirit" is gone, and somebody else took over the place, and most of the time, the physical community would not notice the "change of spirit", how could they never being able to see the original to begin with.
While all these strange and unexpected instances interesting in their own ways, the main point is that from my personal experience, the "greater spirit person" of anything, is not usually chained to that something. If someone like that was here or there, it's not necessarily still is.
So going back to the original question about Gaia, I'm sure there was an actual person, somewhere out there, I'm just not sure if she still is, and if she is, where exactly. We may have lost her.
When I tried to connect to some ancients before, there was some "strangeness".. While often times I'd simply find them in some new places, dressed in new clothing, calling them self different names now. Other times, following old scent, I'd reach dead ends, gateways locked, blocked and guarded by very aggressive and very old creatures.. To be specific, I never tried to find Gaia (The Person), but I never come across anyone like that yet by accident, and have not heard mentioning her anywhere out there, but she still could be there.
Even if she is though, that does not answer another question, what came first? Did the spirit of Gaia came before the body? Or did she came in to existence only after the life on earth evolved sufficiently sentient enough to be capable of "dreaming her in to existence"? If it's the latter, then that would imply strong possibility Gaia is more an exception than a rule amongst celestial bodies. There is more questions than there are answers, maybe if I ever meet her, I'll ask at least some of those. But at the moment we are more focused on the future than the past.
So to sum up. While in theory of "supreme being" theory seem possible or even plausible on the face value, my actual experiments and experiences, especially from studying egregores, working with them, don't directly support such and similar ideas yet. At least so for, I haven't found any strong parallels between philosophical ideas floating around for the past couple millennia, how the greater reality works and connects with everything, and the actual experiences and my observations of those realities working, interconnecting..
One of those things, that could be, might be, but haven't seen yet, so I personally leaning towards belief that might not be the case.
But I adopt strict dogma of "there is no ONE supreme being" practical reasons, as a precaution, a filter, a wall to keep at least most if not all of certain negative influences away from my very fragile inner temple. I'm not overly concerned if this particular personal dogma is
factually right or wrong, it's more important to me for it just to be
practically right for me atm, in the present time and space.
In the Hindu system the 7 planes are penetrated by 5 electricities. These electricities seem to be the life force flowing through the universe.
At one stage I used to have dreams that I suspected were fake - like a TV dramatisation. So I would inspect the dreams for the 5 electricities. If the electricities were not present I knew the dream was artificial.
I don't personally have concept of "electricities" in my own gnosis or anything similar, have not observed anything that would match it exactly. I may have something vaguely similar, but not exact. I have concept of "energies" (just because I have no better word at hand) to define all existence, or rather all the different flavours of all existence. Every astral/spiritual place, being, entity, has it's own "energy", it's own "flavour"/"scent". Just like every physical place might have distinct smell, and every human being does have distinct scent, at least for some creatures, the ones with larger noses..
So that's what we use for navigations and identification or everything and everyone out there. But that doesn't sound quite the same as your mentioned concept of "electricities".
[hope my spelling is ok, don't have time to proof read now, will do later]