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Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:49 pm
by szone
Carl Nagel, in one of his books, gives spirit
of seduction names as Sadar, Prostas,
Solaster. Elsewhere I read it is not Sadar,
but Sader. Which is correct, Sadar or Sader? Plz advice!
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:11 am
by CCoburn
I am not familiar with this name, but I do hear people butcher
Angelic, and Arch Angelic names quite often, especially "Michael".
First I will use Michael as an example, then I will sound out your Entity name.
Michael, three syllables, written as it sounds: My - cha(Like the "ki" in the word "kite")
and the "el" sounds just like saying the letter "L", or like the name "Al".
Now your Entity name, which is much simpler, Sadar: Sa(like the "sa" in the word "say")
and "dar" with the "ar" sounding like the letter "R", or like the "dar" as in the word "dart"
And I would Presume the correct spelling is "Sadar", although regardless of the spelling,
pronounced as stated above.
Someone who is familiar with this Entity will most likely confirm what I have said here.
Peace.
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:48 am
by CCoburn
Sadar with the "Sa" having a short "a" sounds good too.
It seems to sound more Feminine than "Sa" with the long "a" sound.
I can imagine the long "a" being more suitable for Vibrating.
Anyways, the question appears to be about spelling, so I apologize if
I have veered of course with this.
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:16 pm
by CCoburn
I just want to add one more unrelated piece of info here.
Only because I am compelled to do it(must be the OCD).
And in the rare event anyone uses this info, I would like it to be complete.
Either of the two pronunciations would certainly do the Archangel justice,
but an alternative to the above pronunciation of Michael could also be:
On the first Syllable, instead of the "My" sound,
you could also use the "Me" sound.
I think I like this one equally as much.
Ok, im done.
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:06 pm
by szone
Spida wrote:Sadar with the "Sa" having a short "a" sounds good too.
It seems to sound more Feminine than "Sa" with the long "a" sound.
I can imagine the long "a" being more suitable for Vibrating.
Anyways, the question appears to be about spelling, so I apologize if
I have veered of course with this.
I found out Carl has taken this entity name from Black Pullets. There, it is given as Sader. So it could be a spelling mistake from Carl. Perhaps the pronunciation is Sa as in Say, and Der as in Fur. Thanks much for your valued inputs!
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:40 pm
by CCoburn
Sometimes I just play around with different pronunciations. For a particular Entity over time,
and It will eventually evolve into the one that is most pleasing to the ear, upon speaking
and vibrating it. After all, these are names of Power and should sound as such, especially
the ones at the top of the hierarchy. Sometimes you get it right off, other times it takes a bit.
I know there is a lot of sketchy and incorrrect info out there. So occasionally you must rely
on yourself and what sounds and feels right; can be vibrated effectively. Etc. Then at the same
time, hopefully. You have arrived at the correct way to do it. And if not, maybe just one little
tweak away, and then the next day you nail it.
Peace
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:51 am
by Frater Chiasmus
It has been my experience to always use the root Hebrew pronunciations of vowels to any obscure occult language.
A = "ah" as in "saw"
E = "ay" as in "say"
I = "ee" as in "need"
O = "oh" as in "foe" or "roll"
U = "oo" as in "food"
This makes the LBRP and the Middle Pillar a bit more simple.
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:17 pm
by szone
Frater Chiasmus wrote:It has been my experience to always use the root Hebrew pronunciations of vowels to any obscure occult language.
A = "ah" as in "saw"
E = "ay" as in "say"
I = "ee" as in "need"
O = "oh" as in "foe" or "roll"
U = "oo" as in "food"
This makes the LBRP and the Middle Pillar a bit more simple.
This is very helpful too, thanks a lot! I had not thought of Hebrew pronunciation before. It's a bit tongue-twisting, gotta get used to it !
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:01 pm
by szone
One more info needed please. There is so much confusion as to how you pronounce the word 'Succubus'. I pronounce it thus-
'Su' as in 'Do'
'Ccu' as in 'Do'
'Bus' as in 'Us'
Is this correct? Nowadays I'm trying to summon a Succubus. So I need to know correct pronunciation!
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:53 am
by CCoburn
But maybe "Su" as in "So"
That's pretty good, maybe better.
It actually sounds good both ways if you do it right.
Not much help,
Maybe I like mine better. It's 50/50 for you.
Re: Sadar or Sader?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:39 pm
by szone
Spida wrote:But maybe "Su" as in "So"
That's pretty good, maybe better.
It actually sounds good both ways if you do it right.
Not much help,
Maybe I like mine better. It's 50/50 for you.
Very helpful, thanks! Interestingly, in many languages of India, there is a word 'Sukh', pronounced as in 'Took'. And 'Sukh' means 'pleasure'!
