Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt 1

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Found this recently, very interesting ideas by Peter Carroll on magick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pMNS81-hE&t=301s

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This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.

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Good point. I have to say that I am very interested in his work, so I will do just that.

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It's available on google books cheap af and very handy to always have on your phone
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Desecrated wrote:This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.
Since it is on YT it isn't a copyright issue for us (as the cr holder can issue a DMCA to take it down very easily). It would be a violation and removed if it was say a torrent link or a random site with links to download the material.
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Stukov wrote:
Desecrated wrote:This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.
Since it is on YT it isn't a copyright issue for us (as the cr holder can issue a DMCA to take it down very easily). It would be a violation and removed if it was say a torrent link or a random site with links to download the material.
That is interesting. That actually opens up some doors for us when it come to learning resources.

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Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.

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LagrimasDeDios wrote:Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.
I'm not familiar with the practice but I would say yeah, don't do anything that can potentially harm yourself. You only get one body and mind. I would think it's irresponsible of the author if he suggested that practice.
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chowderpope wrote:
LagrimasDeDios wrote:Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.
I'm not familiar with the practice but I would say yeah, don't do anything that can potentially harm yourself. You only get one body and mind. I would think it's irresponsible of the author if he suggested that practice.
He didn't necessarily suggested it in the text, it was more like, it was unclear or I didn't fully understand. Thank you for the quick response!

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Liber null.. means going to the extremes of all these basic categories..

Love
Unity
Emotion
Life and lifestyle....
Art and fashion..
Pain and athletic threshold.. yoga for example.

Sex domination.. submission..bondage sado masochism

Philosophical nihilism pessimism and anarchy..

Positivism.. order and objectivity..

Chaos goes to the bounds of all of these

And it therefore means chaos is boundless and open minded..

I myself have been a chaote for 50 years! And yes im lying about that fact.. ipsofacto and the philosophers stone..

Penchant runes for signals in the chaos magic theorum.

And of course, De facto luciferianism!

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Ultimately pure chaos would be writing without correcting spelling mistakes..

Pure chaos would be a millian monkeys typing on a million type writers..

Because of our intellect.. we have to go to the far reaches of Heaven and hell..(limbo) to know and understand chaos..

Maybe the realm of odds and probabilities.. but we can too as magicians aim and control things such as dice rolls..

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Analytic13 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:50 am Ultimately pure chaos would be writing without correcting spelling mistakes..

Pure chaos would be a millian monkeys typing on a million type writers..

Because of our intellect.. we have to go to the far reaches of Heaven and hell..(limbo) to know and understand chaos..

Maybe the realm of odds and probabilities.. but we can too as magicians aim and control things such as dice rolls..
I think that may not be a very clear picture of what 'chaos magick' really is.

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In my limited observation, each magical/spiritual practice/tradition is contained within the aura of its sponsoring entity.

Taking techniques and practices from a variety of entities seems to create a tension: To which of us does the practitioner belong? I want him/her!

is this a good situation?

The biographies of OTO practitioners that I have read seemed to be tragedies. Are there any biographies of chaos magicians?

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"chaos magick" as a term is 90% half marketing. It just sounds cool.

There are chaotic elements to it, but it is not definitively a mancy of working with elemental chaos.

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