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Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:05 am
by Cam Revillot
It specifically says to try not to blink. Should I be practicing with my eyes closed? That's the only way I know not to blink for 15 minutes. If the eyes are open but not moving that overlaps with later staring exercises. Just seemed a bit unrealistic so I thought maybe I was reading it too literally.

Am I the only one here who can't go 15 minutes without blinking?

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:28 am
by Clockwork Ghost
Yes, eyes closed is a good idea. I'm running a series of lessons on Liber MMM in the school, you're welcome to join. Let my know by PM message if you do and I'll add you to the group.

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:25 pm
by Desecrated
Cam Revillot wrote:It specifically says to try not to blink. Should I be practicing with my eyes closed? That's the only way I know not to blink for 15 minutes. If the eyes are open but not moving that overlaps with later staring exercises. Just seemed a bit unrealistic so I thought maybe I was reading it too literally.

Am I the only one here who can't go 15 minutes without blinking?
Try it with both. More fun that way.

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:31 pm
by EternalReturn
Cam Revillot wrote:It specifically says to try not to blink. Should I be practicing with my eyes closed? That's the only way I know not to blink for 15 minutes. If the eyes are open but not moving that overlaps with later staring exercises. Just seemed a bit unrealistic so I thought maybe I was reading it too literally.

Am I the only one here who can't go 15 minutes without blinking?

Open eyes are more fun to play with. After a while you stop blinking.

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:00 am
by Phaedra
Old practice of ancient Yogi´s was to keep one´s gaze directed to the light of candle and try to stare it bit by bit. This strenghten one´s eyes in long run.

I think that without blink is more about practice. You practice and you evolve, You practice more and evolve more.. Results by investing.

Eyes closed and eyes open. I think they are different practices and give different results. Both useful, but not the one and the same.

It´s more useful to practice slowly than try to run before one knows how to walk.

Just my opinion on this question.

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:33 pm
by Nahemah
Trataka is a technique that helps:
By fixing the gaze the restless mind too comes to a halt. It is said also that control of the ciliary (blink) reflex stimulates the pineal gland, which some authorities identify with the third eye. Trāṭaka is said to enhance the ability to concentrate. It may increase the power of memory and bring the mind in a state of awareness, attention and focus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C4%81%E1%B9%ADaka

Re: Question about motionlessness practice (Liber MMM pg14)

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:03 am
by Analytic13
Well my only recommendation is to go with how you think you should practice..and from there extend yourself naturally..

And then my second point..which is very important..is to not get down on your self when you make a mistake or open your eyes even though you didnt want to..otherwise the negative energy you carry can make you make more mistakes in the future..so you have to be a kind of stoic..in effect..