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Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt 1

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:22 pm
by Vap0rWar3
Found this recently, very interesting ideas by Peter Carroll on magick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pMNS81-hE&t=301s

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:20 pm
by Desecrated
This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:15 am
by Vap0rWar3
Good point. I have to say that I am very interested in his work, so I will do just that.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:45 pm
by Cam Revillot
It's available on google books cheap af and very handy to always have on your phone

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:15 pm
by Stukov
Desecrated wrote:This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.
Since it is on YT it isn't a copyright issue for us (as the cr holder can issue a DMCA to take it down very easily). It would be a violation and removed if it was say a torrent link or a random site with links to download the material.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:39 pm
by Desecrated
Stukov wrote:
Desecrated wrote:This recording might be against copyright law. But I'm not 100% sure. So my recommendations would be to buy his books.
Since it is on YT it isn't a copyright issue for us (as the cr holder can issue a DMCA to take it down very easily). It would be a violation and removed if it was say a torrent link or a random site with links to download the material.
That is interesting. That actually opens up some doors for us when it come to learning resources.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:08 pm
by LagrimasDeDios
Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:06 am
by chowderpope
LagrimasDeDios wrote:Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.
I'm not familiar with the practice but I would say yeah, don't do anything that can potentially harm yourself. You only get one body and mind. I would think it's irresponsible of the author if he suggested that practice.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:40 am
by LagrimasDeDios
chowderpope wrote:
LagrimasDeDios wrote:Hello all. New guy. Question about Liber MMM and mind control. Am I supposed to not blink for 15 minutes? Won't that damage my eyes permanently? Sorry, I lacerated my cornea last year and it's just getting back to normal. I don't wanna screw it up again. Can I just call reduced blinking a success and move on to regulation of breathing??? Thanks for any help in advance.
I'm not familiar with the practice but I would say yeah, don't do anything that can potentially harm yourself. You only get one body and mind. I would think it's irresponsible of the author if he suggested that practice.
He didn't necessarily suggested it in the text, it was more like, it was unclear or I didn't fully understand. Thank you for the quick response!

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:45 am
by Analytic13
Liber null.. means going to the extremes of all these basic categories..

Love
Unity
Emotion
Life and lifestyle....
Art and fashion..
Pain and athletic threshold.. yoga for example.

Sex domination.. submission..bondage sado masochism

Philosophical nihilism pessimism and anarchy..

Positivism.. order and objectivity..

Chaos goes to the bounds of all of these

And it therefore means chaos is boundless and open minded..

I myself have been a chaote for 50 years! And yes im lying about that fact.. ipsofacto and the philosophers stone..

Penchant runes for signals in the chaos magic theorum.

And of course, De facto luciferianism!

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:50 am
by Analytic13
Ultimately pure chaos would be writing without correcting spelling mistakes..

Pure chaos would be a millian monkeys typing on a million type writers..

Because of our intellect.. we have to go to the far reaches of Heaven and hell..(limbo) to know and understand chaos..

Maybe the realm of odds and probabilities.. but we can too as magicians aim and control things such as dice rolls..

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:36 am
by Kath
Analytic13 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:50 am Ultimately pure chaos would be writing without correcting spelling mistakes..

Pure chaos would be a millian monkeys typing on a million type writers..

Because of our intellect.. we have to go to the far reaches of Heaven and hell..(limbo) to know and understand chaos..

Maybe the realm of odds and probabilities.. but we can too as magicians aim and control things such as dice rolls..
I think that may not be a very clear picture of what 'chaos magick' really is.

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt 1

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:31 am
by Amor
In my limited observation, each magical/spiritual practice/tradition is contained within the aura of its sponsoring entity.

Taking techniques and practices from a variety of entities seems to create a tension: To which of us does the practitioner belong? I want him/her!

is this a good situation?

The biographies of OTO practitioners that I have read seemed to be tragedies. Are there any biographies of chaos magicians?

Re: Liber Null (intro to chaos magick) - Peter J Carroll pt 1

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:22 pm
by Kath
"chaos magick" as a term is 90% half marketing. It just sounds cool.

There are chaotic elements to it, but it is not definitively a mancy of working with elemental chaos.