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those doctors arrrggg are messing with my head, I told them there fucking idiots, they diagnoised me as a psychotic, I maybe, but I know the occult is the main blame and no drugs will help any occulty who suffers like me. drugs really make me depressed, i feel like i'm in hell, and they are forcing them on me, idiots huh! co's they have never seen any occult movie, hu? I am not mad, which I have said more than ten times this week!

I used to think I had a edge on peoples awarness but I am now just a idiot myself,MEANING is everything to the soul.

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aww I'm sorry :neutral: well don't let it get you too down...the medicines aren't that great (had enough experience with them to know...) and you arent the only one that gets depressed over em. It isnt just occultists or anything.


Why do you say it is the occult stuff that is making you 'psychotic' as they say?

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What kind of psychosis were you diagnosed with? This is not an area in which I am expert, but psychosis, according to (Davidson, Gerald C.; John M. Neal. Abnormal Psychology. 8th ed. New York: John Wiley & Sons Inc., 2001. n127.) a text that I have studied psychosis is a general description, sort of like neurosis, which includes "schizophrenic and paranoid disorders and some mood disorders."

But you should check out the description of schizotypal personality disrder. That description includes "interpersonal difficulties,... excessive social anxiety that does not diminish as they get to know others...odd beliefs or magical thinking - superstitiousness, beliefs that they are clairvoyent and telepathic - and recurrent illusions - they may sense the presence of a force or person not actually there" unclear word use, eccentric behavior and appearance, ideas of reference ("the belief that events have a particular and unusual meaning for the person." suspiciousness, paranoid delusion, flat affect (ibid. 361)

My point in posting this is that although I have no idea if you are psychotic or not, in the above example the person diagnosed does not need to have all of the symptoms of the disorder. I can think of an awful lot of people to whom that diagnoses could apply.

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I'm just really sad, and they have ADDED TO IT ALL, idiots!

I believe something cursed me! why a curse, co's of it's power over me, when I stand near someones aura I gett effected(car journeys) I would shake my head, play the radio, but the intrusion is greater.

it started before the holiday, and when I was on holiday I had some of my worse experiences, I was exsorsted by the curses putting loops in my mind, the person would instantly influence me, but it seemed to go on for days, when are auras where close, I swear his thoughts where messing me up...I would get his song in my head for hours, I hate it, even with the walkman, I started attacking people, I become so intune that I knew I was insomeone and hurting them, I have trouble stopping it, I could effect someone in a spilt seconded without my control

I don't care what anyone says, but people can influnce each other so well that if business men knew, then they could work some stuff!

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erisdoe, I have a leaflet here! I definately have all the symptoms even if still, I blame the magick, some people are born manic minded, all there life keep isolated and fear there thoughts leaking...

some info from the book...
tactile hallucinations: the experience of being touched or touching something that does not exist.

olfactory hallucinations: the experience of smelling something that is not really there.

auditory hallucinations: noises heard when there is nothing there.




neurotransmitters_


in the psychosis, it is believed that there may be too many neurotransmitters travelling from one cell to the next.

the two most common neurotransmitters linked with psychosis are dopamine and serotnin.

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racing intrusive thoughts
feeling of elation/spirituality.

do not need to sleep

suspicious of people close

to you not wanting to eat



belief of being punished by god

repossessed by the devil

horrific thoughts of being

persecuted.






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man i dont like docters that much either as they diagonsed me with depression when i already had it. i also got this medicine you know celexa that really makes me sad sometimes but i wish that i could take it away but cant.

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What makes you think you _aren't_ psychotic?

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wiseone, pretend to take it! they may force me cause

I told someone that I would kill, they reported me! the police came to the house, mayhem this is all I need...

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baby alien, even though I think I understand what you are saying and how frustrated you are, I would explore mundane solutions. It sound like you are suffering a bit and it is possible that even though the doctors you have been seeing may not be able to help you 100%, they may be able to help you at least a little. Remember, medication does not change you forever.

This is a bit off of your topic, but didn;t you mention once that you were not a native English speaker?

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External Locus of Control, belief that you're being cursed, insisting that your biased self-diagnosis is more accurate than multiple trained professionals, hearing voices, relatively absurd reasoning for the development....No offence, but you're not making a very good case to NOT be considered psychotic....
Psychosis:
A severe mental disorder in which thinking and emotion are so impared that the individual is seriously out of touch with reality.

Abnormal Psychology
Eighth Edition
Davidson, Gerald C. and Neale, John M.
Of course, you know what is going on in your reality and they have no concept of what is going on, despite it being their profession....So, what it leaves you with is one of three choices, either you:
1.) Control these voices so that they do not interfere with your normal life and you don't talk about it, thus all symptoms appearantly disappear. This could mean conscious effort to find the source, curser, proper banishings or shields...
2.) You take the anti-psychotic medication as instructed by medical professionals and the voices go away.
3.) You do not take medication, and you do not succeed in fending off the voices, the psychosis/curse/whatever takes control and you wind up in a mental hospital.

Mind you, I'm not trying to sound mean, just interjecting reality into the situation...

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Original post: babyalien

whats wrong with my english erisdoe?



aodh

I can prove it with my experiences, I did not read any of this, neither did I read up how to do psy attacks! psy attack is not just cold energy touching you it is anything you can otherwellm someone with, like the colour pink and feeling of love(good things), it really is not limited from my experiences.



the person who attacks me does not know all this, but he experiences and I feel everything, he thinks of me and I know co's my aura tells me.



MadHatR137



I mostly experienced hallucinations in bursts which are inspiring apart from I would see black on peoples chins, the auditory hallucinations where with the mind control I think. mind control was the worst.



I was seriously feeling ill from living in my isolated box, so I was really dying to set off, on holiday ended up really sick in the head, noone knew! I did not take my laptop or have much wine, I grew the feeling of being at home in my white box listing to my soul music again, now i'm back to the lesser hell of the home...





what drugs would cuase my hair to fall out?

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wow well i went through something similar that when i said i was wanting to kill someone i was taken by the police and put in rehab and that is when they gave me celexa and i wasnt really all that crazy either! i was so pissed at them that noone seemed to care for me much as i think they were just aafraid of something i dont know.

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wiseone, pretend to take it!
I disagree with this statement totally and need to say something. I was diagnosed with depression maybe a year or so ago, and started seeing all kinds of doctors and eventually ended up on the merry-go-round of antidepressants. I didn't like feeling like a zombie, so I just stopped taking them and didn't tell my doctor. I stopped seeing any doctors maybe a week or two afterwards, as I was already sliding back into full-blown depression. I thought I was bad before I went on the medication, but I had no idea what hell truly was until I stopped them cold. I went further into the hole of suicidal depression than I ever had before, and I was experiencing massive withdrawals for the next few months. So, not only was I suicidally depressed, I felt like I was being electrocuted every thirty seconds for a period of months. To this day, I have no idea how I made it through, as at some points I was actually laying on my bed, looking at the implements I'd bought to kill myself. In all actuality, at that point, I was more scared of failing and royally screwing myself up to the point where I wouldn't be able to complete the suicide. I was more afraid of being trapped inside myself than of actually dying. It was the worst experience of my life, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

The thing about depression is, it distorts your entire view of reality. At the time I said "Fuck this," and quit everything, I had no idea what I was doing, or what I was in for. Knowing what I do now, I would never take the same path that led me to the present day, and I sure as hell don't want to see anyone else follow in my footsteps. I shudder to think what would have happened had it been someone I cared about in my place, with less willpower than I have. If that had been the case, I'd probably be attending a loved one's funeral about this time.

For wiseone, if you really want to stop taking your meds, talk to the doctor that prescribed them and explain the situation. If they're worth their salt, they should listen to your points and try to accomodate you. If they refuse, then try to wean yourself off slowly. Don't try to stop cold on your own, as you'll probably drop deeper into a hole than you ever were before. My apologies for the thread hijacking, but I couldn't just sit back and let someone possibly take the advice of "pretend to take it." These are powerful neurological drugs, for which even the designers don't know the full effects of, and stopping them abruptly after an extended period of time is extremely dangerous (something you're not told when you start taking them, which is total bullshit). Talk with your doctor.

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baby alien, Nothing is wrong with your English, I just thought I recalled that in another thread you said something like, please forgive me if I do not get this right, that you were tired at the time that you were posting and when you were tired English was difficult for you. Someone had asked you to clarify a point that you had made. Sorry, off topic I know.

Hey, it looks like MadHatR137 and I have the same book!

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well i know what you are saying and the doctors have listened but tell me to take some off of my celexa at a time as if i just remove all of it i would go through what you did. so on the save side im slowly taking away my meds as i take 5 grams from it until it is gone.

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[QUOTE=erisdoe]
Hey, it looks like MadHatR137 and I have the same book![/QUOTE] Is it blue? Maybe we do...:mrgreen: Yes....we do....such a nice book it is...

AND appearantly we both live in basements....though mine reaks of kitty litter....

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[QUOTE=babyalien]wiseone, pretend to take it! they may force me cause

I told someone that I would kill, they reported me! the police came to the house, mayhem this is all I need...[/QUOTE]
If you say something like this to a licensed therapist, they are required by law to notify the police because if you did happen to chop someone into tiny pieces, the therapist could be found liable because they had previous knowledge of your intent. So stop being stupid and overly dramatic and shut up already...the only way you are going to get through this is to demonstrate through your behavior and thought processes that you are not psychotic.

Frankly, I don't hold too much hope for this happening considering your posts thus far and would echo Aodh's question...how are you so sure you are not experiencing some sort of psychotic break?

Regardless of what some of the less informed and more hysteric members here say, psych meds are not necessarily dangerous or zombifying. Calm yourself down, check out your diagnosis and meds on medscape.com, and try to have a rational discussion with your doctor. You may want to avoid telling him or her that a hex or curse has caused your distress...duh.

As I have said in other threads, be an informed consumer with your health care.


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A person doesn't generally know if they are psychotic, that's what makes it psychosis. So saying "I'm not mad!" repeatedly isn't going to help the situation.

A person having issues like this needs to try to work things out logically and ask other people if something doesn't make sense, get a consensus opinion from people they trust.

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and you can also follow what im doing by taking the required amount for a month and reduce it for about a small amount. slowly you'll feel better as i have and im recovering from my psychotic ways as well. i hope that youll get better and dont be overdramatic with this. just remember to think logically before thinking your curesed or something. as i used to think someone was always trying to get me but i dont think that way no more. so just calm yourself down and maybe do some meditation.

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[QUOTE=babyalien]I'm just really sad, and they have ADDED TO IT ALL, idiots!

I believe something cursed me! why a curse, co's of it's power over me, when I stand near someones aura I gett effected(car journeys) I would shake my head, play the radio, but the intrusion is greater.

it started before the holiday, and when I was on holiday I had some of my worse experiences, I was exsorsted by the curses putting loops in my mind, the person would instantly influence me, but it seemed to go on for days, when are auras where close, I swear his thoughts where messing me up...I would get his song in my head for hours, I hate it, even with the walkman, I started attacking people, I become so intune that I knew I was insomeone and hurting them, I have trouble stopping it, I could effect someone in a spilt seconded without my control

I don't care what anyone says, but people can influnce each other so well that if business men knew, then they could work some stuff![/QUOTE]
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Dear I think you realy do have social anxiety . One of my symptoms was that when I was around people I would think of them as entities . Thats not exactly an aura its your own mind making the people around you seem bigger than they realy are . You should also be taking your medication . I remember that I didn't want to because I acualy liked being depressed I thought it was the only reason why I was as deep as I was . Yes after your done with the medication things did change but not as drasticly as I thought . I'm still the same person I was two years ago only now I'm now longer as jaded and can fully appreciate things that used to seem mundane and simple . I hope you take this to heart because I was there and I did get better . If your medication is making you worse tell your doctor thats what he's there for .

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[QUOTE=Ludi]A person doesn't generally know if they are psychotic, that's what makes it psychosis. So saying "I'm not mad!" repeatedly isn't going to help the situation.

A person having issues like this needs to try to work things out logically and ask other people if something doesn't make sense, get a consensus opinion from people they trust.[/QUOTE]

LOL :lol: My mom always said if you think your crazy your not , But if you say your not and keep denying it than your nuts .

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[QUOTE=Sadb]Merry Meet

Dear I think you realy do have social anxiety . One of my symptoms was that when I was around people I would think of them as entities . Thats not exactly an aura its your own mind making the people around you seem bigger than they realy are . You should also be taking your medication . I remember that I didn't want to because I acualy liked being depressed I thought it was the only reason why I was as deep as I was . Yes after your done with the medication things did change but not as drasticly as I thought . I'm still the same person I was two years ago only now I'm now longer as jaded and can fully appreciate things that used to seem mundane and simple . I hope you take this to hart because I was there and I did get better . If your medication is making you worse tell your doctor thats what he's there for .

Bless Be[/QUOTE]
yes i agree with you sadb as i used to think that way as well. it was not until recently did i think of myself the same but more older like you know? i also had urges to stop my meds, as those in rehab called it, at times of my llife but i didnt liten as I knew there would be dire consequences to that. so im glad for you sadb that you a better now.

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[QUOTE=babyalien]those doctors arrrggg are messing with my head, I told them there fucking idiots, they diagnoised me as a psychotic.[/QUOTE]
I sincerely hope you didn't tell them you are an occultist. Shrinks tend to see all phenomena as happening in the mind and anything that doesn't fit their small minded worldveiw is subject to being called psychosis and can get you LOTS of meds. In their minds their are no mystics, only people with poor mental health.

Play their game. Maybe even put the occult stuff aside for awhile untill you get grounded in this world.

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[QUOTE=babyalien]I'm just really sad, and they have ADDED TO IT ALL, idiots!

I don't care what anyone says, but people can influnce each other so well that if business men knew, then they could work some stuff![/QUOTE]
I posted a lengthy paper on mental influence and it speaks of protection against it.

Look it up, you can retain control of yourself. Even if you are sitting there smilling you can still be in your mind screaming and raging against their attempts.

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[QUOTE=Wiseone]yes i agree with you sadb as i used to think that way as well. it was not until recently did i think of myself the same but more older like you know? i also had urges to stop my meds, as those in rehab called it, at times of my llife but i didnt liten as I knew there would be dire consequences to that. so im glad for you sadb that you a better now.[/QUOTE]Acually when I was depressed (12-16) I was more mature then I'am today .
I now have a since of humor and can laugh at stupid antics that befor would just make me annoyed .
I was jaded and had no cares of life .
But I think I've also dumbed down a bit for my own good too . :lol:

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