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Original post: Ice Flower

Yeah, I know, there are dozens of definitions of "vampire." (you know, one of the most annoying things about occultists is that we all have different meanings for the same words. UGH!) But I'm talking about energy vampirism mostly, and people who actually want to drink blood, and the people who want to actually BECOME vampires.

Vampires are elitist. They're better. Faster. Smarter. Definately cooler. And also *trumpets, please* more SELF AWARE than you. They know what's going on in the world. They know how to rise above and control the world. They live in the shadows, using people without anyone's knowledge. They work alone, on the fringes of society.

Now let's rejoin reality. What, are you cruising around on the edges of society, but being careful to be in bed by 11pm so you can get up for work in the morning? Probably, yeah! So get real and stop pretending that life is a friggin music video.

Also, some of us here in the real world have encountered those who really do need to steal energy from other people. And there's nothing spectacular or supernatural about it, either. A vampire is the obnoxious, sallow, whiny little drama queen who looks malnourished and can't pass you in the hallway without making you listen to a sad, sad, boring, sad story. A vampire is the needy, clingy dude you just can't get rid of, because he wants to be your friend and he needs someone to listen to how he's got it all figured out- and everything sucks. He's going to do you a favor and tell you why everything sucks.

We all know how vampires make us feel when we've been attacked and leeched off of. We feel gross. Irritated. Drained. There's a good reason why whiny people make you tired. They're sucking up your energy!

Vampires are not glamorous! Most of all, they are not cool, strong, independant people! They are clingy and whiny and dumb as a stone post!

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Original post: AstralMagickCraft

You are mixing depressive pathetic morons with the goth scene.
Seriously, there are bes and wannabes. both are pathetic.

Now before any vamps or previous get offended, I've heard of a lot of psivamps suddenly becoming normal through internal change alone.

It is not natural, I cannot even conceive of a psi vamping baby or toddler.

It isn't something that happened since birth somewhere along the line you developed the habit. Undevelop it.

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Original post: Tenebrae

Hmm...

Though I don't consider myself a vampire by any definition of the word, I've had countless others say that I am simply because I feast off emotions. Personally, I've always counted a vampire as one who harbors the need to feast due to their own inability to produce enough energy for themselves naturally.

I, on the other hand, feast simply because I enjoy doing so...I function quite well without feeding upon the essence of others and have no reason to do so other then the enjoyment of the act. I feast, typically, through sexual means...seduction and manipulation, mind games, teasing, and then sexual interaction...feasting upon the pain, pleasure, insanity, and sorrow of my prey. I don't hide the fact that I do so either, I'm quite open with the concept that I do this with my prey...infact, I find it all the more satisfying knowing that they are aware that I'm literally drinking their soul and they still want every last moment of it.

Regardless, I don't believe that I'm more aware of what's going on...I have my speculations and theories...and I am indeed quite arrogant, but that's more so because I believe myself not to be human but instead taking up residence within this husk for a reason that I'm unaware of for the time being...along with several others who also share the same exact belief system as I and believe themselves to be what I do. The feasting off emotions is simply a game to us, a means of amusement, a way to make individuals writhe... Though, despite our beliefs, all of my kin hold an agnostic moral to heart:

"Only those who've died know what lies beyond death...everyone else are simply speculating."

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Original post: Venefica

Before I was born the mother cake failed. My mother was in a hospital for a month and when I was born is was so skinny they could not use diapers on me, I could not scream I sounded like a little bird.

Now I am fat. I am often way to hungry, I can just eat and eat. Pepole feel drained around me. Am I a psychic vampire? I do not know, but I know there is something wrong with my Energy system and I believe it comes from the fact that I was born hungry. I have always been this way, even yes, when I was a toddler.

I have however experienced that some, not all, but some of those that call themself vampires are extremely arrogant, winy and melodramatic. I have asked a few about my problem and usually I get the we are the lords of the night line and seldom get any real help, but some are very nice and helpful pepole.

As for goths, goths do not pretend to be vampires, not are most goths elitist. A goth is simply somone that like darker esthetics and music. And that like to dream of a world where things are not just what science tells us but where there are more meaning and excitement. We might dream of a romantic stroll with Dracula, but that do not mean that we think that we are vampires.

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[QUOTE=Ice Flower;357674]Also, some of us here in the real world have encountered those who really do need to steal energy from other people. And there's nothing spectacular or supernatural about it, either. A vampire is the obnoxious, sallow, whiny little drama queen who looks malnourished and can't pass you in the hallway without making you listen to a sad, sad, boring, sad story. A vampire is the needy, clingy dude you just can't get rid of, because he wants to be your friend and he needs someone to listen to how he's got it all figured out- and everything sucks. He's going to do you a favor and tell you why everything sucks.[/QUOTE]
well, you know i have mixed feeling on this.
like first yeah, this obnoxious emo-like people could be psychic vampires. it would certainly explain why they act like that. also beggars would fit into vampires, although more of physical bent ;).
but, and this is big but, this could also be excuse for culling the weak (this idea is ever popular in some satanist circles). some people are just weak. emotionally, mentally, physically. maybe people just want to say "fuck you you weakling, stop clinging to me" but because of social conditioning or mercy or empathy they suppress this desire, and put up with this people.
saying "they're vamps and all they want is my energy waaaahhhh!!11" you have excuse to fry those weaker then you that you dislike.

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Original post: Jenfucius

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Well you do get alot of sociapaths and psychcotics who are into the "psy vampire" thing.

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Original post: Venefica

Perhaps, but most psi vampires are "normal" sensible, moral pepole, very careful on how they feed on and how much and make sure they do not harm anyone.

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For those who are interested to investigate more.

There is some interesting info by Michelle Bellanger's Vampire Codex. (I'm not 100% certain this is the original one)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/index.htm

This site mentions some of the modifications made from the original Vampire Codex to the second edition.
http://www.sanguinarius.org/articles/SD ... view.shtml


Here's an old topic called "A Small Course in Vampirism"
http://www.occultforums.com/showthread. ... ic+vampire

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Original post: EtuMalku

Vampirism has little to do with most of what was posted here, it is a condition of the soul. Bellanger is not entirely correct with everything she states, but her work is a good starting point if you know little about vampirism.

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Original post: Azzerac

We have a fairly popular page on "That Space", and I meet all sorts of people, interesting, intriguing, and intelligent.
...Then there are the vampires!
If I have to deal with one more melanin-deprived teenager, who gets beat-up for his milk-money, coming to me,
begging me to ask them about "The Truth About Real Vampires", I'm gonna' spit blood! (Ironic, ain't it?)

I am "This Close" to "Going Van Helsing" on the next pasty-faced butter-ball that flashes a pair of fangs at me!
(DAMN! That felt good to say!!!)

Seriously, though: It's only the Bella Lugosi freaks (And that includes you Anne Rice panderers) that ever thought that it was cool. Bram Stoker writes a book about an East European warlord in fancy dress, and suddenly all the horrors since time-immemorial are wiped away?! It's like wrapping Charles Manson in a tux with tails, and he suddenly gets out on parole!!!
If this is just a thread about "The New Peter Pan Complex", that's one thing. If we're talking about vampires, REAL vampires, that's another.
The sub-culture that arose around a literary porn author who concocted a character named Lestat; it's sad, to tell the truth. It's just so many lost kids, looking for some sense of control in their lives, seeking some power in their out-of-control existence, and some reason why they are ostracized from the rest of the high school cliques. Suddenly there pops up a few books, a handful of movies, and they discover that $200 Bucks at Hot Topic and another $20 in a costume shop, and they're put on a pedestal! How can you fight that kind of momentum?

You can't.
At least, I can't. It wears me out, trying to reach these kids, so I stopped trying.
Either it will burn it's self out like The Shakers, or it will get so ingrained in our culture as to be unrecognizable, like Andy Warhol's "Poseur Movement" (with everyone acting like they're a model in front of a camera). I'm hoping they open their collective eyes before too long. The saddest thing I've ever seen is a 40 year old, two-hundred-pound goth chick.


Then again, they say the same thing about us!

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Original post: Venefica
Vampirism has little to do with most of what was posted here, it is a condition of the soul. Bellanger is not entirely correct with everything she states, but her work is a good starting point if you know little about vampirism.
I agree about the Vampire Codex. I however think that with this topic as with every occult topic, there is not one true way, or one true answer and vampire can mean many things.

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Original post: MatthewK

[QUOTE=Ice Flower;357674]A vampire is the obnoxious, sallow, whiny little drama queen who looks malnourished and can't pass you in the hallway without making you listen to a sad, sad, boring, sad story. A vampire is the needy, clingy dude you just can't get rid of, because he wants to be your friend and he needs someone to listen to how he's got it all figured out- and everything sucks. He's going to do you a favor and tell you why everything sucks.

We all know how vampires make us feel when we've been attacked and leeched off of. We feel gross. Irritated. Drained. There's a good reason why whiny people make you tired. They're sucking up your energy!

Vampires are not glamorous! Most of all, they are not cool, strong, independant people! They are clingy and whiny and dumb as a stone post!

The end.[/QUOTE]


I love you. :D


[QUOTE=Azzerac;357872]If I have to deal with one more melanin-deprived teenager, who gets beat-up for his milk-money, coming to me,
begging me to ask them about "The Truth About Real Vampires", I'm gonna' spit blood! (Ironic, ain't it?)

I am "This Close" to "Going Van Helsing" on the next pasty-faced butter-ball that flashes a pair of fangs at me!
(DAMN! That felt good to say!!!)[/quote]


In a totally hetero way... I love you too.

Oh man. You guys just nailed everything I've ever said and felt about the entire topic. You know how many of my exes were vampires? Quite a few. Feeding off of drama, discontentment, disappointment, betrayal. Mindgames and emotional rollercoasters. They thrive on it, seem unable to survive without them, and that's about the closest thing to a human parasite that I've ever seen.

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=Jenfucius;357723](Not directed at anyone in particular)

Well you do get alot of sociapaths and psychcotics who are into the "psy vampire" thing.[/QUOTE]

We prefer the term Nihilism ;)

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;357830]Vampirism has little to do with most of what was posted here, it is a condition of the soul. Bellanger is not entirely correct with everything she states, but her work is a good starting point if you know little about vampirism.[/QUOTE]

Which is why I don't deem myself a Vampire despite "them" claiming otherwise...I have no condition that weakens my essence and gives me the need to feed off others to supplement it, I simply do so for enjoyment.

Personally, I think many different types of beings feed off energy...Vampires are just one of the few who are required to do so due to an infliction as opposed to enjoyment.

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Tenebrae;357927]We prefer the term Nihilism ;)



Which is why I don't deem myself a Vampire despite "them" claiming otherwise...I have no condition that weakens my essence and gives me the need to feed off others to supplement it, I simply do so for enjoyment.
[/QUOTE]

"I can quit any time I want", Said The Crack-Whore!

You don't get to have it both ways. You either are or you aren't. Decide what you are and stick with it. If you choose to be a maladjusted chicka with delusions of grandeur about some sociopathic desire to be loved by the people you hurt, then don't be surprised when you get worse come your way.
You are one damaged piece of work, little girl.

I'm done with this one.
Who has something real talk about?

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Original post: shadow flame

[QUOTE=Azzerac;357928]"I can quit any time I want", Said The Crack-Whore!

You don't get to have it both ways. You either are or you aren't. [/QUOTE]
the word of sin is restriction :p
i think everyone in this thread has different idea what vampire is...

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=Azzerac;357928]"I can quit any time I want", Said The Crack-Whore!

You don't get to have it both ways. You either are or you aren't. Decide what you are and stick with it. If you choose to be a maladjusted chicka with delusions of grandeur about some sociopathic desire to be loved by the people you hurt, then don't be surprised when you get worse come your way.
You are one damaged piece of work, little girl.

I'm done with this one.
Who has something real talk about?[/QUOTE]

I've gone over a year between feeding, and do so on very random occasions...so, the "Crack Whore" metaphor doesn't quite apply here now does it? A "casual drinker" comparison, on the other hand, is quite appropriate...but who am I other than some "chicka with delusions of grandeur about some sociopathic desire to be loved by the people I hurt"?

Oh...by the way, I'm male...you may have figured that out had you been a bit more observant. I do so hope that the "plethora of knowledge" you seemingly have isn't as limited as your observation skills. ;)

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Until I see someone physically capable of doing all that fantastical crap you see in horror movies and comic books (growing fangs, strength of 10 people, flying, bursting into flames in sunlight, etc.) I'm going to believe "vampires" are symbolic.

And of all the people I've met claiming or hinting at having these powers, none of them could show me anything substantial. If they were so powerful and grand with their vampire skillz they'd have no problem taking me down, and furthermore they'd lose no sleep over it. So what gives? I could leave an open invitation and the worst that would happen is I'd get bitten by a mosquito.

Anyone who's wasting their time on an internet forum and truly does have these powers, PM me - I'll give you my latitudinal/longitudinal location and you can fly over tonight and prove you're what you claim to be. :)

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[QUOTE=MatthewK;357937]Until I see someone physically capable of doing all that fantastical crap you see in horror movies and comic books (growing fangs, strength of 10 people, flying, bursting into flames in sunlight, etc.) I'm going to believe "vampires" are symbolic.

And of all the people I've met claiming or hinting at having these powers, none of them could show me anything substantial. If they were so powerful and grand with their vampire skillz they'd have no problem taking me down, and furthermore they'd lose no sleep over it. So what gives? I could leave an open invitation and the worst that would happen is I'd get bitten by a mosquito.

Anyone who's wasting their time on an internet forum and truly does have these powers, PM me - I'll give you my latitudinal/longitudinal location and you can fly over tonight and prove you're what you claim to be. :)[/QUOTE]

Good luck, I come across a few of those types now and again, the ones who claim to be a Vampire by the mythological terminology...they never make any attempt to prove their case though. Just kids with too much time on their hands...fun to play with though.

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Original post: Venefica
You don't get to have it both ways. You either are or you aren't. Decide what you are and stick with it. If you choose to be a maladjusted chicka with delusions of grandeur about some sociopathic desire to be loved by the people you hurt, then don't be surprised when you get worse come your way.
You are one damaged piece of work, little girl.
Hey draining Energy from pepole are no more addictive than doing it from the cosmos, from stones or anywhere else. Nor do I see what the big problem is if one do not try to take so much Energy that one harm somone.

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[QUOTE=MatthewK;357937]Until I see someone physically capable of doing all that fantastical crap you see in horror movies and comic books (growing fangs, strength of 10 people, flying, bursting into flames in sunlight, etc.) I'm going to believe "vampires" are symbolic.[/QUOTE]
how many occultists/magickians claim that they can do pyrokinesis or levitate? so is being occultist symbolic?

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[QUOTE=Azzerac;357872] If we're talking about vampires, REAL vampires, that's another.
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"Real" vampires?

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[QUOTE=Tenebrae;357933]I've gone over a year between feeding, and do so on very random occasions...so, the "Crack Whore" metaphor doesn't quite apply here now does it? A "casual drinker" comparison, on the other hand, is quite appropriate...but who am I other than some "chicka with delusions of grandeur about some sociopathic desire to be loved by the people I hurt"?

Oh...by the way, I'm male...you may have figured that out had you been a bit more observant. I do so hope that the "plethora of knowledge" you seemingly have isn't as limited as your observation skills. ;)[/QUOTE]

Wow.
you sure showed me.
After running on no sleep, I was incapable of telling you were male, as you hide behind one of the most feminine pictures I've ever seen.
That must mean I'm wrong.
I guess that makes you right about everything, doesn't it?
Does this make you the one of us that is more in touch with reality?

If so, I weep for the species.

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Tenebrae;357933]
Oh...by the way, I'm male...you may have figured that out had you been a bit more observant. [/QUOTE]

I just saw your pic.
No. You aren't.

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Original post: EtuMalku

Not replenishing your prana for a year is really not an option for true vampires.

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=Azzerac;357991]Wow.
you sure showed me.
After running on no sleep, I was incapable of telling you were male, as you hide behind one of the most feminine pictures I've ever seen.
That must mean I'm wrong.
I guess that makes you right about everything, doesn't it?
Does this make you the one of us that is more in touch with reality?

If so, I weep for the species.[/QUOTE]

*Laughs*

Yeah, because sleep deprivation is one hell of an excuse for looking at a photo and being foolish enough to believe that a woman would sport a bare chest on a random Occult forum. I bet you believe half those online lesbians looking for sex are really women too! Not to mention it says male there...but what am I thinking, you were too sleepy...you poor wittle thing you.

As for my being right, I've only got my own personal experiences to pull my information from, and simply because I don't need to feed and have gone over a year between feeding without any complications...that goes to show me that your "facts", at least in regards to myself, are meaningless.

Now, as I've said before...I don't consider myself a Vampire nor have I ever done so...other's have deemed me such. I agree with you in the concept that Vampires need to feast in order to sustain themselves, that's why I don't consider myself one, but you commented directly in regards to my feasting of emotions... You then tossed some childish little post presenting your arrogant opinion that you know exactly whom and what I am...that I'm simply delusional and you know better.

Just because you're physically older than I doesn't make you wiser...especially on who and what I am in particular. So, grow up and learn to post with content that better reflects your age, otherwise I'll make you look like you're "sleepy" after every post you make.



[QUOTE=Azzerac;357992]I just saw your pic.
No. You aren't.[/QUOTE]

Not all of us go bal....I mean choose to shave our head, nor to all of us have some desire to portray a masculine frame. My sincerest apologies for my long hair and lithe frame, I had no intention of drawling your eye to my exposed nipples and flat chest. It's ok though, you don't have any need to question your sexuality.

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