I am tired of vampires.

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Original post: EtuMalku

Can we stay on the the topic please?

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358018]Can we stay on the the topic please?[/QUOTE]

My apologies, I typically enjoy belittling people when they present ignorance...if he wishes to continue the measuring of the dick sizes over the net he's more than welcome to PM me from this point forth.

Anyway, back on topic, I believe that a myriad of beings feed off energy... It's said by some that spirits drawl energy in order to manifest themselves or interact with the physical world. If you think about it, the Christian God demands unwavering loyalty, devotion, and love without question...perhaps, if such a being does exist, it does the same...feeding off that love and devotion for whatever the reason. The Succubus and Incubus are demons who feast off sexual energies...but rarely does it ever say they need to do so in order to exist, simply that they enjoy it...

It's only Vampires, in the mythological and metaphoric definition, that are stated...by most...to require to feed in order to sustain themselves. Why would that mean that other beings lack the ability to do so for the enjoyment of the act?

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Original post: Venefica

Azzerac

I just saw your pic.
No. You aren't.

Eh look again, I look more masculine than Tene, look at his chest it is flat, there are no boobs, and boobs in an important ingredient in girls.

Etu:

Not replenishing your prana for a year is really not an option for true vampires.

I personally hate the word true. True vampire, true magician, true submissive, true woman, true patriot. True is a word pepole use to belittle what others believe or are. As only the twue sayer and his group are twue. The case is however it belittle themself, not the other person.

There are allot of different things that can be meant by vampire. It can mean walking corpse, hungry ghost, psychic vampire, somone that drain energy just for the hell of it, vampire lifestylers, bankers, politicians and so on. The word do not have one, pardon me, true meaning.

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Original post: EtuMalku

I'm not interested in semantics or what you believe I meant when I used the words 'true vampires' . . . there is much that separates most energy users from TRUE vampires, it is the condition of the soul.

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358025]I'm not interested in semantics or what you believe I meant when I used the words 'true vampires' . . . there is much that separates most energy users from TRUE vampires, it is the condition of the soul.[/QUOTE]

Then you believe as I do in regards to Vampires correct?

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Original post: Venefica

I'm not interested in semantics or what you believe I meant when I used the words 'true vampires' . . . there is much that separates most energy users from TRUE vampires, it is the condition of the soul.

If it makes you feel special to believe that, then who am I to stop you.

Then you believe as I do in regards to Vampires correct?

I do not know enough about your views to answer yes or no about this. But I have not seen much to object to from you in this tread.

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=Venefica;358033]
I do not know enough about your views to answer yes or no about this. But I have not seen much to object to from you in this tread.[/QUOTE]

Good to know I'm not being objected heh...

Though, if you agree with what you've read of me, then you pretty much agree with EtuMalku...if I understand their view on Vampires correctly.

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Original post: Venefica

I think there are several things that can be called vampireism and what Etu refer to is one of them. I however do not believe the word have only one meaning or that one meaning is more true than another.

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Original post: EtuMalku

Venefica: True is a word pepole use to belittle what others believe or are. As only the twue sayer and his group are twue. The case is however it belittle themself, not the other person.

There are allot of different things that can be meant by vampire. It can mean walking corpse, hungry ghost, psychic vampire, somone that drain energy just for the hell of it, vampire lifestylers, bankers, politicians and so on. The word do not have one, pardon me, true meaning.

Why would you think I use the word 'true' in order to belittle others? I don't.
Nor do I feel belittled by using the word 'true'
True vampires are not 'walking corpses', 'hungry ghosts' or 'lifestylers'.
What they do for a living has nothing to do with what they are either.

TRUE: means Genuine - Legitimate.
And a true vampire does not have a human soul.

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Original post: Azzerac

Reading Topic: "I am Tired of Vampires"

Hmmnnn.... I think I was pretty well 'on topic'.

...and now who is showing how little they know on a topic.

No matter how you choose the measure of a man: I win.
Goodbye, Androgynoid.

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Original post: Tenebrae

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358042]Why would you think I use the word 'true' in order to belittle others? I don't.
Nor do I feel belittled by using the word 'true'
True vampires are not 'walking corpses', 'hungry ghosts' or 'lifestylers'.
What they do for a living has nothing to do with what they are either.

TRUE: means Genuine - Legitimate.
And a true vampire does not have a human soul.[/QUOTE]

I would agree with you, but you have to understand that there are individuals who believe differently and take offense to being called a false Vampire simply because they don't fit into "our" definition of the term.

Not that I care about anyone who does, simply saying that you'll get hostile responses if you place such a "fact" stamp upon your definition instead of "I believe" in order to present it as your personal opinion.

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Original post: Venefica

Why would you think I use the word 'true' in order to belittle others? I don't.
Nor do I feel belittled by using the word 'true'

Because typically a person use it to try to make their group, faith, lifestyle and so on seam more real than other pepole group, faith, lifestyle an so on. And no I would not expect you to feel belittled by it, but you do belittle yourself non the less.

True vampires are not 'walking corpses', 'hungry ghosts' or 'lifestylers'.
What they do for a living has nothing to do with what they are either.

I do not agree with you.

TRUE: means Genuine - Legitimate.
And a true vampire does not have a human soul.

Again if this make you feel special. And you do not have the confidence to accept that your kind of vampirism is just one of many, then my all means believe what you want, but it makes you seam vain and foolish.

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Original post: shadow flame

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358042]Why would you think I use the word 'true' in order to belittle others? I don't.
Nor do I feel belittled by using the word 'true'
True vampires are not 'walking corpses', 'hungry ghosts' or 'lifestylers'.
What they do for a living has nothing to do with what they are either.

TRUE: means Genuine - Legitimate.
And a true vampire does not have a human soul.[/QUOTE]
so, what are true vampires by your definition?

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Original post: EtuMalku

Thanks for the heads up Tenebrae
True vampirism is a condition of the soul
The soul is no longer a human it is a vampiric soul and it is no longer connected to the Universal Energy Source as a human soul is.

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Original post: Venefica

That is an interesting way to look at it. I do believe there are pepole like that, however, there are many other types of vampirism than that, also how would a vampire the way you see a vampire be an occultist and work magick without being connected to the Energy of the universe whatever one want to call it? At least Energy model magick would then be hard to do. As no matter how much one draw from a donor Human Energy can never match that of universal Energy, or whatever one want to call it.

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Original post: EtuMalku

I am not sure but I think it has to do with that non-vamps cannot store prana, though they can learn to utilize it, on the other hand a vampire can store this energy and build it up to colossal strengths and higher vibrations..

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Original post: Venefica

Everyone can store Prana, however without the center nadis to gather Universal Energy the organism would not be able to gather enough Prana to store, even taking from others one would be hard pressed to get enough Energy just to keep the organism alive.

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Original post: EtuMalku

But they do have energy channels
From what I understand the meridians are globally aligned with the physical body's sanguine system, working in a way that resembles the blood vessels.
A vampires subtle body has in its internal structure a few complex systems that work in part like energy organs, controlling and balancing the flux of Ka (energy) through the whole system.
The primary energy centers are aligned with the major endocrine glands and the central backbone of the skeleton, correlating to major nerve ganglia branching forth from the spinal column.

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Original post: Venefica

From what I understand the meridians are globally aligned with the physical body's sanguine system, working in a way that resembles the blood vessels.

They do not always follow blood veins, often they follow nerves, but their function is similar, bringing Energy around the body like the veins bring blood.

One question, have you had anyone that can read the Energy body confirm these organs? It would be interesting to see if somone that was not into your type of vampirism would be able to confirm that they are there.

And no I do not try to discredit what you say. I find what you say very interesting. The only disagreement we have is that I do not think what you talk about is the only true version of vampirism.

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Original post: EtuMalku

They do not always follow blood veins, often they follow nerves, but their function is similar, bringing Energy around the body like the veins bring blood.

One question, have you had anyone that can read the Energy body confirm these organs? It would be interesting to see if somone that was not into your type of vampirism would be able to confirm that they are there.

And no I do not try to discredit what you say. I find what you say very interesting. The only disagreement we have is that I do not think what you talk about is the only true version of vampirism.

Thank 'you' for the further information, I think we are on the same page with this.
Proving anything prana related is difficult, this a fine article concerning prana

From the accumulated scientific research it seems that a good case for the existence of prana, nadis, chakras and acupuncture meridians is developing. We are moving towards an age where explanations for previously unexplained phenomena are required, because the energy exists, is being used, and has potentially great benefits for all mankind

http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1980/joct80/pranshak.shtml

Lastly, I will for arguments sake agree with you and the rest that the term 'vampire' can be used for many things. My definition as you already know, is one with a vampiric soul, which is different than all the others that manipulate energry for they still have a human soul.

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Original post: Venefica

Thank you for the link. Interesting article. Yes proving anything Prana related is hard, but sometimes if others feel what you feel and they do not have prior knowledge of it, then it is a good indication.

Lastly, I will for arguments sake agree with you and the rest that the term 'vampire' can be used for many things. My definition as you already know, is one with a vampiric soul, which is different than all the others that manipulate energry for they still have a human soul.

I can agree with you on this. I do believe some pepole can have a non human soul of various types. And it is an interesting area of the occult. What more can you tell me about it?

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Original post: Centrix

Alarm bells:

The author is quick to accept kirlian photography and, seeing this is a yoga magazine, there is a significant chance he will accept interpretations of studies that conform to his belief leaving out important details regarding method and protocol. Don't believe anything at face value.

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Original post: Venefica

I do not take things that face value but what do whatever or not one believe in kirlian photography have to do with anything? I think kirlian photography is an interesting topic, and I do think that one can be able to capture the aura on a picture.

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Original post: Centrix

That is an emotional conviction, which isn't really "wrong.". Facts are a different category.

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Original post: Venefica

There are very few scientifically proven facts in the occult. I fail to see believing one can take a picture of someone's aura to be any more an emotional conviction that anything else.