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Thank you, thank you, thank you to the lovely Admin Vashta for helping me out and getting my account set up and started here on Occult Forum.
To everyone else, hello!
Not sure what to put here so I'll just bump out a quick look-over I guess~
Name is Dakota, but I go by Koya, Nova, Vincent, whatever you guys feel comfortable in calling me.
Nineteen years old, and I'm pretty open to just about everything and anything, though I haven't had a whole lot of first hand experiences with much, might be because of how little I know and how little I practice, but hopefully with some help here I'll develop new methods that'll catch my foot in a door that's positive for growth and personal development. Perhaps I'll know more being here to keep my sorry ass from serious harm, and hopefully make some friends on the way!

As for religious views? Well. With every religion that I've read about and seen, I can't tell why I feel 'drawn' back to Satanism every few months, to years or so. I might have periods where I go to church, sing a few hymns and read up on the Bible, research about Buddah, dabble with the Quran, but I always, always come back to wanting to know more, and be more involved with Satanism.

It actually scares me.
I did some things Involving the site Joy Of Satan.org and well, after growing up and learning more about the Neo Nazi being pushed down my neck I grew to hate that site, and denounce all of it's information as debunked garbage. Not sure how much was actually garbage if this magnet is still locked tight on me. I've got a lot to learn, and hopefully this place will help.
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Hello,

What specially attracts you to Satanism?

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Asurendra wrote:Hello,

What specially attracts you to Satanism?
That's actually a pretty odd question I haven't really thought of. Ever since I was a kid I was brought up on horror movies, monsters and things like that. I figured demons weren't too far off and that's where I got started. I eventually begun to read that they were mostly people like us, much more powerful, and didn't have these grotesque shapes and the like, least they not be a lesser demon. [Citation Needed]

Broken down into parts? Part Junkie buzz rush, part mysticism, part desperation, and part sympathy.
There was this story I read once that Satan stook his neck out for humans and got shafted in the end. Ever since then, it's been one big 'What if everything I knew was bass-ackwards,' you know?

There's been several dozen adaptations that demons are monsters, demons wish us well but are overlooked as the greater evils in the world, demons are bad... etc etc.
Part of me coming back is because there's so much to learn, and it peaks all of my interests, and with the practices I've had in the past? It reaped the most results, even if they were not all 100% positive. Nothing too extravagant, the worst was a slap on the wrist and a few sleepless nights, but it felt like progress. It felt good. During the time of practice I could have sworn I was able to remember better, my health (eventually) Excelled, I got over traumatic issues by putting 'Lucifer' as my new father figure, and every now and again I'd get a fairly nifty dream, sadly I only remember one.

It was pounded into my head that Satan was that father figure that was there for everyone. Naturally, since I have some Daddy issues, it felt good. Therapeutic and downright blissful at times. Like "Hey! There's a 'GOD' I can call dad and he'd be alright with that." I clung onto that emotional factor for as long as I could. Tried to meditate, open chakras, etc etc. (No results, poor practice habits.)

But now? I feel like "Maybe demons are monsters, but just misunderstood. Maybe if I cared enough for one, it'd show it self and then I wouldn't have to fear the possibility of 'nothing after death.'

Basically it's clinging onto something I felt that was paranormal so I get over my greatest fear, not existing after death. Of course there's that entire 'sell your soul' bull and 'dedicating ones self to Satan' --- Which through the JOS website, I've done. This was back when I was 13 or so, 19 now.

Tl;Dr
Got into it at 13, dedicated soul. Hate the thought of no afterlife, demons seem to have greatest power to show of such afterlife. Comfort in lesser fears that negate bigger fears. Lesser fears are potentially damaging. Verdict: I'm screwed, clueless, and in way over my head.
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KoyaGhost wrote:
Asurendra wrote:Hello,

What specially attracts you to Satanism?
That's actually a pretty odd question I haven't really thought of. Ever since I was a kid I was brought up on horror movies, monsters and things like that. I figured demons weren't too far off and that's where I got started. I eventually begun to read that they were mostly people like us, much more powerful, and didn't have these grotesque shapes and the like, least they not be a lesser demon. [Citation Needed]

Broken down into parts? Part Junkie buzz rush, part mysticism, part desperation, and part sympathy.
There was this story I read once that Satan stook his neck out for humans and got shafted in the end. Ever since then, it's been one big 'What if everything I knew was bass-ackwards,' you know?

There's been several dozen adaptations that demons are monsters, demons wish us well but are overlooked as the greater evils in the world, demons are bad... etc etc.
Part of me coming back is because there's so much to learn, and it peaks all of my interests, and with the practices I've had in the past? It reaped the most results, even if they were not all 100% positive. Nothing too extravagant, the worst was a slap on the wrist and a few sleepless nights, but it felt like progress. It felt good. During the time of practice I could have sworn I was able to remember better, my health (eventually) Excelled, I got over traumatic issues by putting 'Lucifer' as my new father figure, and every now and again I'd get a fairly nifty dream, sadly I only remember one.

It was pounded into my head that Satan was that father figure that was there for everyone. Naturally, since I have some Daddy issues, it felt good. Therapeutic and downright blissful at times. Like "Hey! There's a 'GOD' I can call dad and he'd be alright with that." I clung onto that emotional factor for as long as I could. Tried to meditate, open chakras, etc etc. (No results, poor practice habits.)

But now? I feel like "Maybe demons are monsters, but just misunderstood. Maybe if I cared enough for one, it'd show it self and then I wouldn't have to fear the possibility of 'nothing after death.'

Basically it's clinging onto something I felt that was paranormal so I get over my greatest fear, not existing after death. Of course there's that entire 'sell your soul' bull and 'dedicating ones self to Satan' --- Which through the JOS website, I've done. This was back when I was 13 or so, 19 now.

Tl;Dr
Got into it at 13, dedicated soul. Hate the thought of no afterlife, demons seem to have greatest power to show of such afterlife. Comfort in lesser fears that negate bigger fears. Lesser fears are potentially damaging. Verdict: I'm screwed, clueless, and in way over my head.
Welcome Koya, nice to have you here.

What I read above sounds interesting, but allow me a few questions:
- Do you equalize Luzifer and Satanas?
- What you wrote about satanism above sounds much like a devil worship thing. Do you differ between those 2 or are they the same for you?
- Does Satanism include Demons?
- Could you in a few sentences define what satanism is to you? Would make it easier for me if I know your terms [happy2]

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Welcome Koya, nice to have you here.

What I read above sounds interesting, but allow me a few questions:
- Do you equalize Luzifer and Satanas?
- What you wrote about satanism above sounds much like a devil worship thing. Do you differ between those 2 or are they the same for you?
- Does Satanism include Demons?
- Could you in a few sentences define what satanism is to you? Would make it easier for me if I know your terms

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(Learning to Quote and I'm failing at it. It's late!)

And I'm going to show just how brilliant I am with how poorly I'm going to respond to these questions. Using big words for late hours, and I do apologize if I began rambling, like I am now. Anyway, equalize Lucifer and Satan? --- I guess? Enki, Satan, Lucifer, it's like me and my aliases. What I know and what I believe are two different things. What I believe? Lucifer is a humanistic name, perhaps angelic before his fall from grace. Enki is more of a staged demonic name, aka word with devout power, and perhaps more of an Ancient Egypt dialect. While Satan is a Christian adaptation of the 'guy in charge of hell.' Satanas, Diablo any others I neglected, which I'm sure a few. I feel they're all the same. Like Koyaghost , Vincent, Nova - is all one guy. Me.

Devil worship. I feel like there's a bit of demonic worship in there, and I'll be honest, I 'Did' that stuff in the past. Keyword "Did" - past tense. I don't do that anymore, but there's always a chance I'll do it again some day. Who knows? As for... relating the two? I kind of figured they were the same. There's the spiritual aspect with Lucifer as sort of a image, the spokes person of a company, persay. I did it because I wanted a relationship to deal with my lack-of-a-father.

My version of what I believe of satanism does include demons. The old way that I was first introduced where I then dedicated? --- The demons were mainly human in appearance, instead of goats and horns and eyes that littered their face in disfigured manners. My knowledge of what is right, accepted, wrong, or told are entirely different things. Excuse me if I sound like a bigot.

And Satanism, to me? Gee, gotta think like a prepubescent teen, because my reasoning was back in the past. Now? I have no idea. Asking me what it means now is like asking a blind man to describe the color red.

It meant freedom. What I read on JOS sort of warped what I believed and what I felt was accepted. Believing in that stuff meant freedom, but of what, you might ask? Fear. Freedom from the thought of never existing past one life. One, measly little moment on Earth. There's more out there than the World can give and as a child I am blind and absolutely horrified of the dark. With Satanism, it was a beacon of light of answers, yet shrouded in darkness at the same time. Believing in Satanism, the version I knew, meant that there would always be a demon by my side, helping me avoid fights, and the fights I couldn't avoid, help me win. Use for mental councilors and for personal friends. Like guardian angels, there were 'Guardian Demons' - and this made me absolutely thrilled. I wanted a little spirit thing floating around, haunting, levitating things about, letting its self know to me in any way it could. Every now and again I felt like it did. I celebrated little victories in Satans name and thanked him for putting my shirt on the right way the first time around, finding cash on the ground, or finding something that was once lost. It basically became the backwards of Christianity, while still retaining some aspects of a more linear, hardcore Christian. Not to bash, but it was like "Something happened, God did it." But instead? It was Satan, and at the time Satan was a pretty cool dude.

Sex, drugs, sin, all of that wasn't an issue aside from three simple rules that I feel everyone should live by.
1. Don't hurt yourself.
2. Don't hurt anyone or anything else.
3. Don't be a dick.
Other than that, it was freedom. Freedom to be happy and do as I pleased. Respect the law, don't make a mess and if I did? Clean it up, and refrain from doing it again in the future. It was much more lax than normal Christian rules, and I'm deathly afraid of being a 30 year old wash-out drug addict because mommy and daddy took my to church too much because they feared I'd become a terrible person, when restraining me upon relentless end forced me the release that I so desired from what felt like an institution. Satanism had loose strings, but a damn good moral foundation from at least what I made from it. Flawed? Probably, but now I have the courage to stand up to more people and speak out my mind.

I hope that cleared some of the dense air.
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I tend to think in terms of demons and demonic magic, though not satanism as such.
My thought is religion with its gods and spirits and rules is like the government and society in a human village with its judges and kings and civil ways of behaving toward one another. Not bad, just civilized. Demons, on the other hand, are the forces of nature- rushing rivers, thunderstorms, deep forests where wild and dangerous animals live. Neither good nor bad but primal forces of nature. And demons are the human-like forms these primal forces take. So I am more inclined toward the raw forces than toward the rules of the city. I mean, who wants to be a lawyer? Or a cop?
Also I m inclined toward the dark things because they seem more interesting in general, though I am not saying that is a good way to look at it. Just the way I am.

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Don't be a dick.
I like that!
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RoseRed wrote:
Don't be a dick.
I like that!
I love it as well. If I ever started my own religion, I would legitimately have that as some sort of first commandment.

Life is FULL of people you're not going to get along with, that much is certain. But imagine all the things we can do if we tolerated people a bit better, and learned not to be such asshats to our neighbors. It covers others as well, such as don't be racist, sexist, speciest, an alienator, etc etc.
luminousraven wrote:I tend to think in terms of demons and demonic magic, though not satanism as such.
My thought is religion with its gods and spirits and rules is like the government and society in a human village with its judges and kings and civil ways of behaving toward one another. Not bad, just civilized. Demons, on the other hand, are the forces of nature- rushing rivers, thunderstorms, deep forests where wild and dangerous animals live. Neither good nor bad but primal forces of nature. And demons are the human-like forms these primal forces take. So I am more inclined toward the raw forces than toward the rules of the city. I mean, who wants to be a lawyer? Or a cop?
Also I m inclined toward the dark things because they seem more interesting in general, though I am not saying that is a good way to look at it. Just the way I am.
That's pretty interesting, and honestly something I wouldn't mind looking into, however I'm much more used, and gratified for thinking demons are large black/red things with razor tipped horns, lower bodies of animals, upper bodies of another with eyes as red as the wine served in cooler parties.

That or humanoids that are merely sages, or MY personal favorite "Extra Terrestrials." I'm so into aliens as much as I am the idea of spirituality, it's like a two in one.

Or one of those video games that have CLASSIC sega genesis games. Or nintindo classics. It's like Funcoland in your TV, tops<3 [yay] [yay] [yay] [yay] [yay]
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Hello and welcome to the forum. [cool]
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Nahemah wrote:Hello and welcome to the forum. [cool]
Thanks boss. [cool]
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If you are interested in aliens and extraterrestrials you might want to meditate on the star Gamma Sagittarii.

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