Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
First of all let me explain my situation,august last year an strange sequences of events one worst of another,let my mother now with 78 years old (that was the imagine of health,despite her age),to fall,broke the t3 and t5,got rejection from the metal pins ,got general infection,almost die,and had almost died 17 times.
I practice chaos magick,mostly sigil,servitors,and energy manipulation,so i did what i can to help her,but it could only keep her alive.
On january of this year,my older brother admitted to me that summoned an Brazilian spirit of the religion here called Umbanda(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbanda),he called an entity classified as exu
the wikipedia in english of exu is this->Exu
Exu is a phalanx of spirits that are adjusted to Karma. Offerings are made in the Small Kalunga (cemetery) or at crossroads. The offerings are done only when required by the spirits, never intending to harm anyone. They never use black magic. They protect people while they are on the streets, roads, nightclubs, etc., and also protect them from evil spirits (called obsessing spirits which are spirits that weren't touched by the light yet and use people to feed their bad habits such as addictions to drugs or low emotional states like anger, rage, sadness, guilt, revenge, etc.) and help people opening paths full of learning and success. The female Exus are the Pomba Giras. Their action field is love but under no circumstances will they perform black magic. Pomba Giras, like all Exus, undo black magic that exists in Quiumbanda.
So now my mom is with an tube in her throat and another in her stomach,in a bed,whitout walking since then,she isnt getting better,but she isnt get worst..so thats my limit
In another chat with another member here of the forum,it was suggest that i just got the life force of my brother and sent to my mother,as an intend to give a lesson to my brother,and help my mom.
Ok using what i known,it really didnt work..
The questions are:
1)So im looking for some demon or entity to help(cure/protect) her and another to give my brother a lesson.
2)i have looked in the beginner post,about basic invocation of demons,but there is any modern one,i prefer one with an banish ritual too
3)Can i using an ritual find an unknown demon to do it? how?
I practice chaos magick,mostly sigil,servitors,and energy manipulation,so i did what i can to help her,but it could only keep her alive.
On january of this year,my older brother admitted to me that summoned an Brazilian spirit of the religion here called Umbanda(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbanda),he called an entity classified as exu
the wikipedia in english of exu is this->Exu
Exu is a phalanx of spirits that are adjusted to Karma. Offerings are made in the Small Kalunga (cemetery) or at crossroads. The offerings are done only when required by the spirits, never intending to harm anyone. They never use black magic. They protect people while they are on the streets, roads, nightclubs, etc., and also protect them from evil spirits (called obsessing spirits which are spirits that weren't touched by the light yet and use people to feed their bad habits such as addictions to drugs or low emotional states like anger, rage, sadness, guilt, revenge, etc.) and help people opening paths full of learning and success. The female Exus are the Pomba Giras. Their action field is love but under no circumstances will they perform black magic. Pomba Giras, like all Exus, undo black magic that exists in Quiumbanda.
So now my mom is with an tube in her throat and another in her stomach,in a bed,whitout walking since then,she isnt getting better,but she isnt get worst..so thats my limit
In another chat with another member here of the forum,it was suggest that i just got the life force of my brother and sent to my mother,as an intend to give a lesson to my brother,and help my mom.
Ok using what i known,it really didnt work..
The questions are:
1)So im looking for some demon or entity to help(cure/protect) her and another to give my brother a lesson.
2)i have looked in the beginner post,about basic invocation of demons,but there is any modern one,i prefer one with an banish ritual too
3)Can i using an ritual find an unknown demon to do it? how?
Last edited by raderack on Sun May 31, 2015 9:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
I wouldn't trust the health of my mother to a demon.
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Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
I have tried everything elsemagari wrote:I wouldn't trust the health of my mother to a demon.
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
Have you tried hiring a Reiki or Acupuncture practitioner for her? Or finding a better doctor?
Free yourself from the seduction of words.
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
Yes,and yescorvidus wrote:Have you tried hiring a Reiki or Acupuncture practitioner for her? Or finding a better doctor?
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
Pray and encourage your mother and brother to do the same.
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The Only Constant is Change
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1. What is a Magician
2. The Human Experience
3. The Jail, The House, and The Temple
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Magari vs Illuminati Conspiracy Theories
The Only Constant is Change
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1. What is a Magician
2. The Human Experience
3. The Jail, The House, and The Temple
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Magari vs Illuminati Conspiracy Theories
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
My mother cant talk with a tube of tracheotomy in her throat,and are you talking about the brother who summon an entity to put her in that situation?magari wrote:Pray and encourage your mother and brother to do the same.
She got so much heavy medications,that she is more offline than in,she cant understand me fully now...so yeah..i will take the risks..
Still waiting for an answer.
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
So, your brother summoned a spirit that balances out karma and opens paths to evolution, your mother gets her karma balanced out (which, certainly, is rarely a pleasant experience), and now you...what, want to undo it? Frankly, it sounds like that's something far above your pay grade. I'm not sure calling forth a demon is very wise, because it's likely you'll just make a bigger mess of things even if that isn't your intention. You may be willing to take risks, but her life and soul are not yours to risk. You need to think about that carefully. You need to understand what she needs, not what you want. There's an important difference.
The saddest but most appropriate advice that I feel I can give you is to spend time with your mother and just be with her. She has lived a long life, and there is no shame in facing the end of the road. I don't think you should hold a grudge against your brother for his incompetence, either, because you said yourself that Exu "help people opening paths full of learning and success." Spirits aren't just concerned with this side of life when they consider things like that, because they are well aware of what happens to humans after death, and what can help or hurt a human in the beyond. We cannot know how this is effecting her on a spiritual level, nor can you know why.
But I can tell you, as a trained occultist who has had to face the inability to heal my own parent: we just can't fix everything. Sometimes, all we can do is let nature run its course, and do the normal human things that we should do in such a time. Sometimes, all we can do is be there. And sometimes, for them, that is enough.
~:Shin:~
The saddest but most appropriate advice that I feel I can give you is to spend time with your mother and just be with her. She has lived a long life, and there is no shame in facing the end of the road. I don't think you should hold a grudge against your brother for his incompetence, either, because you said yourself that Exu "help people opening paths full of learning and success." Spirits aren't just concerned with this side of life when they consider things like that, because they are well aware of what happens to humans after death, and what can help or hurt a human in the beyond. We cannot know how this is effecting her on a spiritual level, nor can you know why.
But I can tell you, as a trained occultist who has had to face the inability to heal my own parent: we just can't fix everything. Sometimes, all we can do is let nature run its course, and do the normal human things that we should do in such a time. Sometimes, all we can do is be there. And sometimes, for them, that is enough.
~:Shin:~
Re: Need some beginner help about demon in a serious matter
I'm a a bit surprised by the term "Exus" in the plural form, instead of orixas.
As far as I know, summoning the orixa named Exu (aka Eshu, Legba) in the context of the Umbanda religion is similar to praying and giving offerings to a major saint in the catholic religion. So, I wouldn't say that it is a demon nor that your mother state is necessarily related to your brother action.
As far as I know, summoning the orixa named Exu (aka Eshu, Legba) in the context of the Umbanda religion is similar to praying and giving offerings to a major saint in the catholic religion. So, I wouldn't say that it is a demon nor that your mother state is necessarily related to your brother action.