I need the help of a spell caster ...

[Stukov]

Having dedicated members work out miscommunication and getting along is a beautiful thing for an admin to see.

I would agree that love spells are typically a bad idea, a better use of "magic" is to assist you with what you can't do solely. For example, using a spell to increase the chance of your interaction, giving you a chance for you and the other person to develop feelings on their own. In your case it sounds as though you need help communicating, there are lots of materials and people that can help with this, but yes magic could help focus both of you to try to make it a little easier, but it would need to be used a temporary solution rather than a permanent crutch.

Additionally, if this person is really your soulmate, things shouldn't be as difficult as you appear to make it sound. Conversely, if they are truly your soulmate, they will come back to you, when you are both ready to be together. Sometimes people are meant to be together, but not always their entire lives. Sometimes people only connect later in life before finally staying together. Sometimes it just isn't the right time, maybe you aren't the right people for each other yet, so each or one of you need to experience more of life to be that person you will both eventually love.

By trying to force yourself with a "soul mate" could end in a disaster or making two people who are not yet meant to be together. It could force you apart because the timing is wrong.

Finally, what kind of soul mate are they? For one, coming after my previous points, you might be feeling the connection and love so strong for this person from the future you and them together. What this means at some point in the future you are deeply in love and so deeply connected your souls bathe in each others warmth. You are feeling this from the future and want to make it a reality now, but its not time yet, you have to wait, by trying to make it happen before it should, you could destroy it.

The other possibility is what if you are lovers(friend, family, etc) from a past life? What if you both came here to find new loves separate from each other what you are feeling was something from the past and not meant for this life, perhaps they are better as just friends as you both explore and try to learn new things with new people in this life.

[RoseRed]

I wasn't judging people. I was bitching about the efficacy of love spells. What a tangled disaster people weave in the name of love and lust.

When a spell like is cast by a newbie in desperation, with the power of all that built up angst, those are not easy to undo. Hell, it can be easier to reverse a blood spell than something like this. I wasn't being flip, I was being serious. If you're not ready for a lifetime commitment to crazy, don't do it. Mostly because you'll have to come looking for help to undo it later.

There are ways to cast that are more subtle and work along different avenues. What Stukov suggested is excellent advice. What's being asked for is more like a battering ram or a caveman club. I obviously have my own strong opinions on this (among other things). We don't have to agree but I think we were disagreeing about different things.

[Asha_88]

I'm sorry if I was rude , I didn't mean it. I will not do magic that I can't handle.I know that I'm a total beginner and I know that magick is not something to mess of.I have feelings for him, but I will surely pass my safety first.

[Stukov]

I'm sorry if I was rude , I didn't mean it. I will not do magic that I can't handle.I know that I'm a total beginner and I know that magick is not something to mess of.I have feelings for him, but I will surely pass my safety first.

Was is it about them that makes you feel they are your soulmate?

[RoseRed]

If you're willing to discuss it there's a possibility that you can find something that you are comfortable with once youre aware of possible/probable circumstances.

[the_spiral]

I'm sorry if I was rude , I didn't mean it. I will not do magic that I can't handle.I know that I'm a total beginner and I know that magick is not something to mess of.I have feelings for him, but I will surely pass my safety first.

Rose isn't wrong on this though. Many people think "coercive" love magic (i.e. magic to influence specific people) is only shady on an ethical level. But even if you don't care about ethics, efficacy is an issue. There are too many random variables in human consciousness to guarantee favorable outcomes. If your work gets results - and it usually does since it's thrown with such force - they are often unpredictable, sometimes to an unpleasant degree. Because you tampered with a person's psyche, introduced obsessive thoughts about you into whatever other issues they were dealing with (and some folks have a whooole lotta issues), and then called them to your doorstep. There are so many ways that scenario can go wrong. I'm sure you can think of a few. Most experienced witches have witnessed some horror stories and may even have a few of their own. So the warnings aren't meant to be rude or dismiss your feelings, just to inject some reality into your fantasy about putting a spell on a guy to make him love you forever with no resentment on his part. What if he comes back changed for the worse? Or angry with you because in his deepest subconscious he knows you've laid a trick on him? What if he comes back but later on you don't want him anymore? How do you plan to undo all that work you did? It's much easier to break a man than to put him back together.

[Asha_88]

So do you guys think it's a bad idea to try these love spells? Because like I said , if you think that love spells are too dangerous for a begginer, I will not do it. I will try some basics first.

[the_spiral]

So do you guys think it's a bad idea to try these love spells? Because like I said , if you think that love spells are too dangerous for a begginer, I will not do it. I will try some basics first.

No one can make that decision but you. This is all just information to present a fuller picture. It's very common for people to initiate love magic out of immediate desire ("I want this guy in my life right now no matter what!") without considering long term results. I get it, I've been there too. But what if this guy isn't really your soulmate? Would you still want to be energetically bound to him? Even as a beginner you have agency to choose how you work and to what ends, but you also bear equal responsibility for ALL the consequences.

[Stukov]

So do you guys think it's a bad idea to try these love spells? Because like I said , if you think that love spells are too dangerous for a begginer, I will not do it. I will try some basics first.

As spiral said, we can't make this decision for you. We have given you alternatives that we ourselves would try, but whether you decide these are what is best for you (and him) is entirely your responsibility.

However, if you can answer my previous question I think myself and others may be able to help you with what seems to me is a larger issue.

[RoseRed]

I thought I was quite clear in sharing my opinion.

[Asha_88]

I'm sorry I didn't respond to you, I finish my bachelor this year and I'm kinda stressed [bummed] . What makes me feel that he was my soulmate? It was a passionnate, intense love. We could totally guess what each other think without even prononce a word and we complete the sentences of the other and laugh about it. I will always remember that one night, I just tought about a greeeat sushi place that we went together like 2 weeks before and he said '' I know you think about the sushi place we went on 14'th of july. '' ...And I was like ...WTF how could he know? We always been together for the best and the worst moments in their lives and I just tought that if soulmates exist, well it will look like that.

[Cygnus]

That's not too uncommon, I've had that in a number of different relationships.

I don't really believe in the "soul mates" concept, not least of all because we're all developing throughout our lives (or at least should be), so today's soulmate can be tomorrow's WTF was I thinking! Then again, I'm guessing you're quite bit younger than I am so I've probably got more history to draw upon.

As for love spells being a bad idea, check out Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 2, episode 16 "Bewitched, Bothered & Bewildered" [grin]

[ErebusNamtar]

Just remember, being soulmates does not mean there needs to be a romantic relationship. It could be a deep very fulfilling relationship as friends too. You cannot force love. It isn't just a feeling there's also a lot of biology/chemistry at work. Sometimes everything is there except for that part. In your case, you talk abot an 'ex' it's no longer there.

Unrequited love or love lost is very painful, trust me I have been there many times, but it's better to take a step back and think what is good for the other person. If you truly love the other you'd want them to be happy. With or without you even though it might break your own heart. THAT is what true soulmates do.
In the end it's better for you too as you will no longer spend energy on somebody who just isn't interested in you in that way(anymore). You might be missing out on your true love whilst obsessing over this person.

You deserve love. Not pining for something that might never be(again).

[Asha_88]

Yeah I'm still young ( 23 y.o. ) , I just thought that what I had with this guy was special. But you both are right , I can't make someone love me , I think I will just go watch Buffy with some ice cream haha

[RoseRed]

But he was special.

In time, the time you shared will become a treasured memory of something many people only dream of. I have a feeling you may end up with more of these encounters than you currently think.

[Sypheara]

I have had experiences like this.

There was one girl, the first one I ever fell properly in love with, and we had a very intense relationship for 4 years. When it ended it pretty much fucked me up. However since then I have had extremely meaningful, long term relationships with others, and the one I am currently in is by far the one that is the most important.

My point being that.. sometimes we must face the death of something we have come to treasure above all else to evolve and encounter a new experience we otherwise would never would have, and to share a journey with others who are also of utmost importance to our path.

[RoseRed]

Beautifully written

[The Great Gazeofra]

You want something, and so you try to use Magic to take shortcuts in life just because your too insecure about yourself and your abilities?

If spellcasting was this easy, Life would be paradise.

Magic comes from Will, not Want.

[Asha_88]

Well I don't want to fu... up my life more than it is , and some experienced members here told me that love spells are not recommended for begginers. I will not throw myself into the lion's mouth , I will begin with some easy practical magic and I will end up having enough experience to practice safely these spells. It's the total opposite of taking shortcuts, it's taking the time to be good enough to not hurt myself.

[RoseRed]

No such animal, imo.

[The Great Gazeofra]

Well I don't want to fu... up my life more than it is , and some experienced members here told me that love spells are not recommended for begginers. I will not throw myself into the lion's mouth , I will begin with some easy practical magic and I will end up having enough experience to practice safely these spells. It's the total opposite of taking shortcuts, it's taking the time to be good enough to not hurt myself.

I'm sorry if I sounded rude, but Magick can't be accomplished without intense training and study. I'm talking years of relentless focus. Otherwise, we'd all get what we want all the time, living perfect lives, but that of course isn't realistic.

[RoseRed]

Many people do. Gifts and Talents come in many forms. It may take years to master certain skills for some people but not to wield magic in the first place. There are far too many Naturals out there and far too many messes to clean up from 'flinging'.

And that's not quite how it works.

[The Great Gazeofra]

Many people do. Gifts and Talents come in many forms. It may take years to master certain skills for some people but not to wield magic in the first place. There are far too many Naturals out there and far too many messes to clean up from 'flinging'.

And that's not quite how it works.

That is teTrue. Excuse my arrogance. but that's all Lower Magic and Astral awareness, it is far from the realms of High Magick. I would'nt be content to accomplish anything other than the manipulation of world events, psychological programming of the general public, and technological advancement of the human species.

[The Great Gazeofra]

Many people do. Gifts and Talents come in many forms. It may take years to master certain skills for some people but not to wield magic in the first place. There are far too many Naturals out there and far too many messes to clean up from 'flinging'.

And that's not quite how it works.

That is True. Excuse my arrogance. I have not been born with such gifts, but that's all Lower Magic and Astral awareness, it is far from the realms of High Magick. I would'nt be content to accomplish anything other than the manipulation of world events, psychological programming of the general public, and technological advancement of the human species, the upbringing of Hell itself on earth, all under the icy gaze of the Adept's High Magick and Ritual.

[RoseRed]

[lol] [lol] [lol]

Let me know how that works out from you.

I am aware of the difference between high and low magic and I think you may be surprised at what can be accomplished with either.