Too much magick at once a bad thing?

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Too much magick at once a bad thing?

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I read somewhere that magick should always be a last resort, that you should try to resolve issues on your own without employing magick all the time.

I wonder how true this really is.

It makes it seem to me like magick is a vice in that sense, when it should be something that is used responsibly and enjoyed. I wouldn't necessarily say that using it to do everything is a great thing, but as long as you treat magick with respect and reverence, is that so bad? I would assume that it isn't so bad, so long as you are putting careful thought, and action into your magickal works.
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DarkSchneider wrote:...magick should always be a last resort, that you should try to resolve issues on your own without employing magick all the time.
It depends on context, but I agree with this.

If you fall in love with someone, then you probably shouldn't use magic to 'get' that person. If it works between you two, it works. That's magic in itself really. But making love knots, or potions, or sigils where you're trying to bend other people thoughts and emotions for your own gain... that is, I'd say, 'last resort'.

I guess it's a matter of intention really. If your True Self, ''I'', resonates with a certain magical act and you feel you're doing the right thing, then whatever you're doing is probably good. Probably.

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“Excess of liberty, whether it lies in state or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of slavery.”
― Plato, The Republic

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Ušušur wrote:If you fall in love with someone, then you probably shouldn't use magic to 'get' that person. If it works between you two, it works. That's magic in itself really.
Indeed. In the words of Aleister, "Every intentional (willed) act is a Magical Act." (quotation courtesy Thelemapedia)
DarkSchneider wrote:It makes it seem to me like magick is a vice in that sense, when it should be something that is used responsibly and enjoyed.
It does come across that way, doesn't it. But I agree with all's y'all. A healthy middle ground between Control-Freak and Crisis-Magician is a good thing.

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DarkSchneider wrote:I read somewhere that magick should always be a last resort, that you should try to resolve issues on your own without employing magick all the time.
I disagree. But I guess it depends on how you define "magick." Cosmic energy is flowing through us and everything around us at all times. We can choose to passively go with the flow or to harness it and work it to our advantage. To me that's all magic is, nothing more and nothing less. A tool for self-transformation and the transformation of our reality. So in that sense it's always available and people are already using it all the time, whether consciously or unconsciously. And there's no right or wrong to using it as long as you take responsibility for the results of your work.
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the_spiral wrote:I disagree. But I guess it depends on how you define "magick." Cosmic energy is flowing through us and everything around us at all times. We can choose to passively go with the flow or to harness it and work it to our advantage. To me that's all magic is, nothing more and nothing less. A tool for self-transformation and the transformation of our reality. So in that sense it's always available and people are already using it all the time, whether consciously or unconsciously. And there's no right or wrong to using it as long as you take responsibility for the results of your work.
[thumbup] Well said! Way better than I put it. [blush] [lol]

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Motumbá Àse!

As Spice Girls said:

"Too Much of Something is bad enough,
But something's coming over me to make me wonder,
Too Much of nothing is just as tough,
I need to know the way to feel to keep me satisfied"


Now, seriously, magick can be a crutch, a spiritual and psychological crutch for some people, and when they get to that point that won't function as a normal human being, it turns out pathological. So, it depends in the individual and his psychological and social abilities. Not everybody functions the same and reacts the same to stimuli.

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