Ro-Langs?

[Daud]

Hey all.

Wondering if any of you are familiar with the Tibetan phenomenon of Ro-Langs? They are essentially reanimated corpses, possessed by a ghost which is bound and controlled by the Bon Shaman.

It takes a specific mantra whispered thousands of times onto a relatively fresh corpse to make a Ro-Lang, but apparently after several hours, the body will animate and attempt to fight and kill the Shaman binding them. The shaman must then bite off it's tongue, thus binding it to their will.

Tibetan people take this incredibly seriously. Just saying Ro-Lang inspires fear. A good proportion of houses in Tibet have very low doorways, because apparently Ro-Langs cannot crouch down. Tibetans also poke out their tongues when you meet them, as a polite custom, to prove they are not the walking dead. Most Tibetans i have spoken to confirm the existence of Ro-Langs, but have refused to give me an explanation.

Tibetans are a superstitious people, but on the other hand, they are really, really talented occultists. What do you guys think? Could Ro-Langs be a real phenomena, or is it just superstition? Is it actually possible to reanimate the dead?

[Desecrated]

No, living corpses is not true.

This is probably related to goeng-si (stiff corpses) in Chinese folk magic. However this isn't really mentioned until the Qing dynasty (17th century) and Bön stretches back to 14th century (although it claims to be of 11th century in origins). So there is a chance that the Himalayan regions are the origin. There is a whole bunch of weird magic and religion in Butan that we know very little about and that has clearly influenced Tibetan magic over the years.
There is a specific mention of them in chinese culture as having moss growing on them and long white hair. This is mirrored in Milerepa when he after a long time as an aesthetic comes out naked, covered in moss and with long white hair.

In an interesting foot note. Making ghouls (re-animated corpses) in scandinavian black magic is not unheard of. I have a book that particularly mentions that ghouls are very very strong and for this reason a child or old man should be chosen to re-animated. An adult would be too strong to handle.
This particular source is interesting in your case because "The magicians has to wrestle the corpse when it rises out of the ground, and lick the saliva of it's mouth to control it."

[Daud]

No, living corpses is not true.

This is probably related to goeng-si (stiff corpses) in Chinese folk magic. However this isn't really mentioned until the Qing dynasty (17th century) and Bön stretches back to 14th century (although it claims to be of 11th century in origins). So there is a chance that the Himalayan regions are the origin. There is a whole bunch of weird magic and religion in Butan that we know very little about and that has clearly influenced Tibetan magic over the years.
There is a specific mention of them in chinese culture as having moss growing on them and long white hair. This is mirrored in Milerepa when he after a long time as an aesthetic comes out naked, covered in moss and with long white hair.

In an interesting foot note. Making ghouls (re-animated corpses) in scandinavian black magic is not unheard of. I have a book that particularly mentions that ghouls are very very strong and for this reason a child or old man should be chosen to re-animated. An adult would be too strong to handle.
This particular source is interesting in your case because "The magicians has to wrestle the corpse when it rises out of the ground, and lick the saliva of it's mouth to control it."

That last part is creepy. Although i find the existance of Zombies hard to believe, whenever something is cross cultured, especially as far away as Scandanavia it becomes hard to deny. The amount of stock the Tibetans put into the mythos around Ro-Langs is just plain weird. Even the Papua New Guineans, who are scared shitless of black magicians, don't transform their cultural greetings, and architecture accordingly.

I laughed when you mentioned Milarepa, because i remember my Guru saying he looked like a Zombie.

I should have added that the explanation for Ro-Langs is that the body becomes possessed, some say by a evil ghost, and others say by a powerful Tulpa created by the Shamans mantras and intense concentration. I'm not sure how the latter is even possible. Weird.

[Desecrated]

whenever something is cross cultured, especially as far away as Scandanavia it becomes hard to deny.

The belief in ghost exists in every culture. If something can be both alive and dead, then there has to be something in between. This causes the belief in ghosts, ghouls, vampires and all other interesting thing.
It's a little bit like mermaids, every seafaring nation has their own versions of it. So you find mermaid myths in both africa, scandinavia and japan and there is very little proof of this being spread. It's just that everybody seems to be able to imagine half fish, half man if you spend months at sea with men eating fish.

I should have added that the explanation for Ro-Langs is that the body becomes possessed, some say by a evil ghost, and others say by a powerful Tulpa created by the Shamans mantras and intense concentration. I'm not sure how the latter is even possible. Weird.

Binding thought-forms to dead objects is pretty common in magic. Binding it to a corpse is a pretty nifty idea. If you belive that the soul has left the corpse it's basically just an empty shell, and if you create a "soul"-like creature; it should fit.
Plus you get the added bonus of it being able to move around much easier.

[Daud]

Interesting then, that you think a Tulpa could act with sufficient energy to animate a corpse it's attached to. I work with Tulpamancy a lot, and attatch thought forms to many objects, my Mala, and altar for example. This comes as a surprise that it could be used to reanimate the dead. I might bring it up with my Guru and repost what he thinks. Thanks for your two cents.

[Kami]

Hmm...

I'll formulate an answer that's worth your time:


I might have heard about them,
But to be honest with you - It doesn't sound familiar.

So I tried painting myself a picture of how it works.

Of course, this is just my point of view, ...not saying y'all should believe me - but just understand me.

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When I googled what: "Ro-Langs" - Meant, This is the definition google gave me:

A ro-langs is a zombie-like creature from Tibetan folklore. Ro is the word for corpse and Langs is the perfect tense of "to rise up", so Ro-Langs literally means "a risen corpse". A ro-langs is usually created by a gdon spirit, or a sorcerer. A ro-langs cannot speak or bend over, it signals its victims by wagging its tongue back and forth. They can not bend at any joints, which makes them walk with a stiff-armed lurch. In regions of Tibet there are low doorways to keep the ro-langs out.

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So basically it's just like O.P. said: "They are essentially reanimated corpses, possessed by a ghost which is bound and controlled by the Bon Shaman."

That got me thinking about the: "Tibetan Spirit Sigil":

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The term comes from Tibetian "to build" or "to construct": Tibetan: སྤྲུལ་པ, Wylie: sprul-pa; Sanskrit: निर्मित nirmita निर्माण nirmāṇa. Tulpa is sometimes used synonymously to "magical emanation", [page needed] "conjured thing", [page needed] "phantom", [page needed] and thoughtform.

Then I started to think about what Jesus said in the bible regarding: "Belief".
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Jesus Curses a Fig Tree:
[18] Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. [19] Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered.

[20] When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked.

[21] Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. [22] If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

In other words...

Jesus was feeling something in his heart that somehow affected the fig tree.

What do we know about the heart?

Well, we know it's the first organ to function.
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We know it is many times stronger electromagnetically than the brain.
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We know that our heart's e.m. waves can affect another person's or animal's state of mind just like a: "Transcranial Magnetic Stimulator" - Can.
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We know that our hearts e.m. waves can alter very susceptible electronics like televisions or radios with terrible reception.
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We know we can heal people using our hearts e.m. radiation:
Gregg Braden - Quantum Healing of Tumour thru the Power of Thought & Feeling

Each belief we harbor has its very own heart wave signature, just how every thought we have has its own unique brain wave signature.

Jesus was using words as a reinforcement in order to form a specific belief for his heart to translate into electromagnetic wave signatures.

Jesus was always in a state of mind called: "Gnosis", which allowed for him to perform magick/miracles.

Gnosis is a combination of a state of mind and profound knowledge of the universe and reality.

Similarly to that of being: "Lucid" - Within a dream.

When we are lucid within a dream from sleep or meditation, how we feel in our hearts literally alters the very fabric of our dreamality.

Jesus states that the lack of doubt accompanied by the presence of faith will allow for us to alter HIS dreamality; OUR Universe as we know it.

He gave us permission to alter his reality in the form cryptic/metaphoric instructions.

^Which is exactly what we are doing when we become lucid within a dream.

Seeing something impossible in a dream usually signals us that we are in fact dreaming which becomes a coherent faith in our heart. We no longer have doubt that we are dreaming, which allows for us to utilize lucidity.

Same concept applies to God's dreamality - what we call reality, but... The reason why we don't see a lot of odd dream-like things happening - is because not a lot of people know how to perform magick, they don't know how to feel the right feelings, how to form beliefs nor achieve gnosis.

But they do *more often than not* affect the world around us through the coherency within their hearts during times of misfortune. It takes hundreds of people focusing on just one tragedy to create a strong enough feeling/electromagnetic deviation within the earths magnetic field to alter nearby electronic devices, e.t.c. - so on and so forth.

Even growing plants are affected by e.m. deviations within the earths magnetic field.

So it makes sense that Jesus could more or so without any effert at all *especially because he is God/the host of our reality* make a fig tree wither using only his feelings/heart's e.m. radiation.

Even in science they talk about how the presence of either static or pulsating magnetic fields can alter matter.

That effect in science is called the: "Zeeman Effect".

The splitting of the spectrum line into several components by the application of a magnetic field.

Let me put in terms that are easier to understand:
The zeeman effect and stark effect imply that if we change the environment of matter, the matter within that environment adapts to the change.

The stark effect is basically the reverse of the zeeman effect.

If you want to read more about how plants are affected by magnetism, please visit this link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4154392/

Here is a video showing us the results of different magnetic deviations or strengths having an effect on plant growth:
Growing Plants in Magnetic Fields May 2014 Update

Remember how Jesus gave us an example of how powerful our hearts are?

Well in genesis, God does something familiar to this whole thing we are talking about: "The Creation Of Thought Forms/Ghosts".

For example:

Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

The dust in the ground represents structure - like: "Thought".

The breath of life wasn't actual air, but the energy coming from God's heart, his belief that Adam would come to life and become a living being.

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To summarize everything talked about here,
It takes a coherent Belief along with Gnosis to actually perform miracles or chaos magick.

And it takes at least (3) hearts to produce a healing miracle. Which insinuates that we would need (3) people trained to feel just the right feeling to create a living being called a: 'thought form' - that could be used for the types of magicks that can be performed during astral projection. Including -> Possession. <-Which is rarely talked about. ~

[Desecrated]

Interesting then, that you think a Tulpa could act with sufficient energy to animate a corpse it's attached to.

I think that usually depends on how powerful the tulpamancer is.

[Daud]

Interesting then, that you think a Tulpa could act with sufficient energy to animate a corpse it's attached to.

I think that usually depends on how powerful the tulpamancer is.

True, probably much more powerful than me [cry]

[Daud]

The fact that the Shaman must open the mouth of the corpse and repeat the mantra into it's throat suggests that the are somehow encasing the Tulpa in the body. Still gives me the creeps that a Tulpa could actually take the place of a human spirit.

[Kami]

The fact that the Shaman must open the mouth of the corpse and repeat the mantra into it's throat suggests that the are somehow encasing the Tulpa in the body. Still gives me the creeps that a Tulpa could actually take the place of a human spirit.

Speaking of jamming a ghost into a temple...



I would like to teach spirits how to reincarnate into any universe of their choosing by realizing the truth about reality, that it is infinite.

For every mind there is - there is always a mind beyond it and as well as below it, and it will continue on like that forever; ever growing.

The reason why I am so very interested in astral projection, lucid dreaming and necromancy - is because they will all help piece together a: "How To" - For any spirits that understand english or the feelings associated with the english language.

The internet is always a good friend when it comes to research.

There are (100 Billion) galaxies in this universe,
And there are (100 Billion) neurons in a human brain.

^That led me to question whether or not that I had one hundred billion galaxies within the universe of my mind which were directly linked to all one hundred billion of my neurons, that my neural activity was synchronized with my galaxy activity.

And the answer was obvious: "Yes, my neural activity is mirrored by the galaxies within the universe of my mind."

Now... I am not willing to be the guinea pig, so this will need to be attempted on someone you don't care about.

But before we get into that, allow me to continue talking about how this all relates to creating: "Ro-Langs".

But first - I'll talk about what I need, to help paint y'all a picture.

I need a neural e.e.g. headset to record my brain activity.

I need the kind of software that shows me my neurological structure in 3D form and then highlighting the parts of my virtual brain that are active.

Why?

Because it will show me where I would need to travel within the universe of my mind.

This is considered: "Black Magick", 'Cause it is sex magick related.

Basically, I want to guide a spirit into a sleeping male's mind, having it manifest within his holographic universe.

The only ways to the mind are through the stomach or lungs.

For example:

What happens when we drink alcohol?
We get buzzed, a state of mind.

What happens when we smoke weed?
We get high, a state of mind.

We are what we consume.

So...

I want to tell a spirit to transform itself into a smoke like substance and flow into a sleeping male's mouth down his throat and into his stomach.

The stomach is linked to the unconscious and we all know that our unconscious decides what we will do (6) seconds before we are consciously aware of it.

The stomach sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends to IT.

The spirit will be absorbed by that male's solar plexus and then transferred into the universe of his mind through his: "Sun/Soul".

There is a portal at the center of the Sun within the universe of his mind that releases the energy from the food he eats.

Therefore it is best to place a spirit within a man's stomach to transfer it into his mind.

Anyways, The reason why I want a neural e.e.g. headset that is wirelessly linked to a laptop running the software compatible with that device to display in realtime my neural activity within a 3D model of my brain's neural structure, is because - I want to see if when I feel pain... That a part of my brain becomess active in response to the pain somewhere in my body.

I would be *if I had an e.e.g. headset* recording the realtime reference of my neural activity and then compare and contrast my neural structures to my inner galaxy clusters.

Wherever in my brain there is activity in response to physical stimulation, that's the region of galaxies I want to visit within the universe of my mind during a lucid dream.

Okay...

How is this going to teach a spirit how to reincarnate?

By showing it that entering a man's stomach will transfer it into his mind.

The spirit needs to go into the area of galaxy/neural activity that is associated with his "seed holders" and then turn itself into light and bioelectricity to be absorbed and transfered into one of them.

Then the spirit should possess one of the seeds.

When that man is ready to make love to a woman,
The spirit will be the one to impregnate her, and begin growing once again within this universe we all share.

This would have to be planned out carefully.

Else the spirit may not make it.

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That's what I want to teach to spirits who are trapped and cannot move on from this reality.

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Gnarls Barkley - Crazy:

I have a scientific theory on how to reanimate the dead, but THAT is a story for another time. ~

[Kami]

If we were going to transfer a spirit into a man's mind - *let's just say he is [hypothetically] a "volunteer".* - it would be most helpful to be able to see where the spirit is in his mind.

It's not impossible to see what someone experiences within their mind:
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Because...
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After all;

True, without error, certain and most true: "That which is above is like to that which is below, and that which is below is like to that which is above, to accomplish the miracles of the one thing."
- Hermes Trismegistus

As above, so below - as within, so without:


The mind's eye is the window to our soul.

... 神 ...

These technologies can help us learn so much more about ourselves:

Emotiv's New Neuro-Headset

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With this device we could scan our brain and see a virtual 3D model of it on a computer screen - showing in "real-time" our neural activity in colored highlights.
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Using an e.e.g. headset to scan our brain activity - we can see what parts of our brain respond to both mental and physiological stimulation.

While all of that is going on, we should also implement this technology:
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Japanese Dream Recording Machine

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It's a work in progress. But... One day we will have figured out how to visualize brain activity on a computer screen with frightening accuracy.
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This would come in hady as a: "Real-Time Mind Monitor."
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This following video:
Computer Records Your Dreams

Shows the dream-recorder/neural-activity-visualizer in action.

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Using the e.e.g. headset, We can monitor our brain's activity and have a better control over it.

As for the: "Mind Monitor", We can use it to see what's going on within our minds.

I really wish I could experiment with those two technologies to study lucid dreaming, e.t.c. - so on and so forth.

It would especially be amazing if we could integrate an image of all of the galaxies within our mind to a real-time virtual 3D model of our brain, in order to grasp a more accurate picture. ~

For example:
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Like the picture above ^, We would use a: "Mind Monitor" - To see what our galaxy clusters look like when we successfully induce a lucid dream with the intention of flying up into outer space and [beyond].

[Daud]

Good thinking, Kami. Unfortunately, you are ahead of the curve regarding science.

The parallels between the sky and our own mind doesn't surprise me, as i realise that the universe exists within our own minds. I found it interesting though, that you were able to point it out.

[Kami]

So I was looking at the pisces constellation:

And I realized that it looks like a giant sperm.

I am assuming that - that is the constellation a spirit should visit to transfer itself into a mans "seed holders".

I might be wrong, but until I get my hands on a dream-recorder/mind-monitor and an e.e.g. headset + a laptop, I will have to just go with that guess. ~