Navigating the Afterlife

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I've heard stories of Fae, but don't recall ever meeting one. Met many other interesting (in all kinds of ways) people, but never Fae, at least not that I would remember. I wonder why. Maybe we just don't vibe, badly enough for them to never show up.
Harpies, on the other hand, as another example, I did had misfortune to run in to, and I hope those irrational and hysterical creatures will never cross their paths with mine. Real pain in the bottom.
Protocol? Probably there can never be any kind of universal protocol, one glove can never really fit every hand in existence
My personal one is to try and behave in a manner similar to as if I'm arriving for some holidays in to completely different country, with their own and different culture, own language, own and different nuances, different foods and social norms. I may have ideas and misconceptions in advance, based on rumors and stereotypes, but those should be kept somewhere in the back. And to try avoid using concepts, ideas and terminology developed by others, if I'm not certain of exact origins of those and intricate meanings behind those.
But yes, all those kind of guidelines get polished only through personal experience. Can't really master fire without getting at least 2nd degree burns, once or twice.
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Cerber wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:53 pm I've heard stories of Fae, but don't recall ever meeting one. Met many other interesting (in all kinds of ways) people, but never Fae, at least not that I would remember. I wonder why. Maybe we just don't vibe, badly enough for them to never show up.
Harpies, on the other hand, as another example, I did had misfortune to run in to, and I hope those irrational and hysterical creatures will never cross their paths with mine. Real pain in the bottom.
Protocol? Probably there can never be any kind of universal protocol, one glove can never really fit every hand in existence
My personal one is to try and behave in a manner similar to as if I'm arriving for some holidays in to completely different country, with their own and different culture, own language, own and different nuances, different foods and social norms. I may have ideas and misconceptions in advance, based on rumors and stereotypes, but those should be kept somewhere in the back. And to try avoid using concepts, ideas and terminology developed by others, if I'm not certain of exact origins of those and intricate meanings behind those.
But yes, all those kind of guidelines get polished only through personal experience. Can't really master fire without getting at least 2nd degree burns, once or twice.
This conversation reminds me of that old Roadhouse scene: "I want you to be nice, until its time not to be nice."

It's hard to go wrong with a solid foundation in PSD. Be nice, but able to kick ass when needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QJsljIDKkk

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A small note.

I recalled that the translation for Chakra is actually "wheel" and have noticed that when you start manipulating and moving energy it spins. Just these little details....they reinforce my understanding of Wheel Sorcery. Riding the "Big Wheel" is the key.

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Spiritual Immortality

Recently, I was having a conversation with spirit allies and they noted that I was spending a good amount of time focusing on Longevity practices. On that topic, they basically took me to the side and said:

“that’s fine, but spiritual immortality is more important than this very short life. Focusing on spiritual immortality, pays enormous dividends in the long term, compared to a healthier body.”

I’ve never had much understanding of spiritual immortality….so I asked for them to break it down for me and this is the general response I got:

“There are 2 basic polarities you can look at when talking about this concept: Immortal vs Lost Soul. Those whom have achieved “spiritual immortality” are highly skilled at navigating the spheres (ether, astral, realms....etc) It would be exceptionally difficult to trap, enslave or destroy beings of this nature.

Lost souls on the other hand…..are the opposite end of the spectrum. These Beings are weak, easily pushed and pulled by +/- forces, don’t have any knowledge of how to navigate the ethereal layers of existence and risk getting “injured” and tossed into the hell realms.....slowly ground up in the garbage layers of reality. “


This was an interesting conversation for me and was brought up in the context of shapeshifting.

I'm aware of the concept of "hungry ghosts" from the Buddhist Tradition and my 1st teacher talked about helping "trapped" spirits to continue on there way. I feel there is still a lot more to this i don't understand. Will continue to tinker.

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The idea of crypto....is about creating alternate methods for "Storing Value". Banking systems are consistently playing "funny money" with everyone's assets and the government refused to dish out punishment....but instead gave bailouts.

As a result, the crypto movement emerged to resolve the issue. With crypto, you can put money in a wallet....jump to the other side of the world and as long as you have a computer....still access those assets and move them into your preferred currency (at-least this is the ideal).

In toying with Spiritual Immortality.....I see crossover between these 2 areas. By investing in Immortality.....your moving your focus to an eternal "storage", that you can access across time/space, planes and incarnations. Your "storing value" in the energy body.....value that once cultivated to a degree....is nearly impossible to strip away. Strategically....this may be the wisest investment.

This is still a confounding area of study. Gotta keep tinkering.

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Cool discussion on NDEs with Theo and Jeffrey Long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOGrMfcMPg

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WildWolf wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:04 am...your moving your focus to an eternal "storage", that you can access across time/space, planes and incarnations. Your "storing value" in the energy body.....value that once cultivated to a degree....is nearly impossible to strip away. ..
The direction is useful but my experience of the technical processes differs

Occasionally I am pointed at celestial situations. Almost always it is a matter of the players loving themselves, forgiving themselves, loving their difficult partners and forgiving them.

It seems that the god/logos using this galaxy as his body of manifestation is a god of love.

Thus right relationship is sufficient for the galactic lords of karma to release the entities from their pasts.

As for storage, the challenge is to release the dense energies. Loving oneself is the primary requirement

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Amor wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:39 am
WildWolf wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:04 am...your moving your focus to an eternal "storage", that you can access across time/space, planes and incarnations. Your "storing value" in the energy body.....value that once cultivated to a degree....is nearly impossible to strip away. ..
The direction is useful but my experience of the technical processes differs

Occasionally I am pointed at celestial situations. Almost always it is a matter of the players loving themselves, forgiving themselves, loving their difficult partners and forgiving them.

It seems that the god/logos using this galaxy as his body of manifestation is a god of love.

Thus right relationship is sufficient for the galactic lords of karma to release the entities from their pasts.

As for storage, the challenge is to release the dense energies. Loving oneself is the primary requirement
Love and Forgiveness are powerful. From a technical perspective, Love is good for cleansing, connecting and removing obstacles. Forgiveness, for releasing negative emotions.

Existence, is a complex soup of forces.....I haven't found simplifying things down to a monotheistic perspective particularly useful when it comes to navigation. For example, if you wanted help navigating death.....you might make offerings to a psychopomp of some sort....."high gods".....are often unavailable for comment.

I've had many experiences with said "Galactic Lords of Karma". Groveling at their feet or espousing "love".....is not sufficient a method to work through lifetimes of Karma. I assure you.....Balancing the Scales......is an exceptionally time consuming and painful process. No one Is Exempt.

Crypto and storage was meant as an analogy.

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A couple more nuggets of gnosis, regarding Spiritual Immortality popped up. One of the few remaining impulses that weighs on me heavily....was the idea of having kids and "passing on my seed". As a man, there is a big drive to do this and as we age, that basic impulse becomes stronger. My life as an occultist, is to a degree......in conflict with this impulse.........

Yet, as i keep tinkering with SI.....I've received some gnosis, that relieved the pressure.....passing on genetics is not something that is limited by an incarnations time-span. Rather.....when we descend into the physical....."energetic traits" anchor into the the blood-line and express themselves through that genetic structure. As a result, my traits exist in subtle form (Astral, Mind...etc) and come forth in each incarnation. Thus....there's no rush in planting seeds.....you could reside in the void for an extensive period of time, then pick up another body.

Learning this, has taken a great weight off my shoulders.......i can live this whole life....without feeling like i've "missed my shot" on continuing the bloodline.....the mating game is eternal.

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WildWolf wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:52 am A couple more nuggets of gnosis, regarding Spiritual Immortality popped up. One of the few remaining impulses that weighs on me heavily....was the idea of having kids and "passing on my seed". As a man, there is a big drive to do this and as we age, that basic impulse becomes stronger. My life as an occultist, is to a degree......in conflict with this impulse.........

Yet, as i keep tinkering with SI.....I've received some gnosis, that relieved the pressure.....passing on genetics is not something that is limited by an incarnations time-span. Rather.....when we descend into the physical....."energetic traits" anchor into the the blood-line and express themselves through that genetic structure. As a result, my traits exist in subtle form (Astral, Mind...etc) and come forth in each incarnation. Thus....there's no rush in planting seeds.....you could reside in the void for an extensive period of time, then pick up another body.

Learning this, has taken a great weight off my shoulders.......i can live this whole life....without feeling like i've "missed my shot" on continuing the bloodline.....the mating game is eternal.
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I noted before, a conversation with spirit allies on pursuing Longevity vs Spiritual Immortality and i was pushed in the SI direction. On the other hand....I've had some experiences, where i was doing Longevity practices that had a "holistic" effect on the body and helped prepare the body for deep cultivation. If the physical body is fractured or imbalanced.....spiritual exploration cannot occur....moving into intense energy states will be fraught with difficulty. A sturdier physical form.....will lead to less obstacles. As a result, for those desiring to pursue Longevity.....approaching it in this type of integrated way is optimal for all parties.

Wheel Sorcery......I saw this clip from The Professional......strong resonance.......buckle up, reality is filled to the brim with pain and adversity. Learn to ride the wheel......because its, "Always like this".


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Another note on biological impulses (passing on your seed...etc). The more "attuned" I become to "eternity", the less strength this impulse has over me. Astral body cultivation, can be slow and challenging....but definitely has its rewards.

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