Afterlife, working with demons, pact with the Devil

[Athanasiia Slav]

Hi, I am a bit unsure if it fits here so in advance I want to apologize and I am sorry if my post will sound too complex (I think more in a visual way and I suspect Asperger's syndrome in me).
I am more intensively thinking around spiritual things (one of reasons why I am here, I regret I didn't know about existence of the forum years ago) and in some way I feel drawn to dark forces but I want to join Slavic Rodnoverists when I can (too far currently and I am not on my own yet) and ofc these are my roots but at the same time there is something dark around me what I didn't choose on my own. I feel like dark side is the same what "the good side" (I mean Slavic roots) means for me, it is equal.
A lot happened that I consider one day signing the pact but out of knowledge of you all, your beliefs, your thoughts, how it would affect me and afterlife? I understand payment and "suffering" is fair enough like I get it. At the same time I don't want to loose ever a chance to be finally fully in my own place. For me demons aren't demonic (if it makes a sense), I want to learn about them, I want to contact with them in future to ask them about themselves, ask for some support. So how is it with the pact or after reading my side, wouldn't be just long-term working with demons better in my case?

[Amor]

Welcome

>Asperger's syndrome

I would not use such a physical explanation. Better to consider more subtle issues such as trauma, karma and adverse intelligences

>I feel drawn to dark forces

The core spirituality of the human format is the Light from on high that anchors in the heart - looking like a flame. Attend to that flame. As it grows larger so will the life force in the body and the higher purpose in the human.

I have made various posts about that on this forum

It looks like a dark entity sitting on the back of your head - a good place for it to manage your brain thoughts. Use heart light to move it. If it remains use heart flame

> Slavic Rodnoverists

Close connection with nature is very good. Be careful about the karma of groups you join. Group karma flows on lines of least resistance. It is difficult being such a line.

>something dark around me what I didn't choose on my own

Family karma is an issue going back to about 1200 AD in your case. Be careful about living in areas occupied by your ancestors. Eastern Europe was a difficult place then - and still is.

>one day signing the pact

Why would you sign a pact with any apparently human group? Better perhaps to consider your relationship to the universe and beyond

Lift your consciousness and light-body above the current difficulties and function as a cosmic partner of Earth humanity

>demons aren't demonic

Consider the Tzimtzum - where The Source of All breathes out creating darkness and separation while simultaneously breathing in the now experienced intelligences to light and unity.

The Tzimtzum experience is an apprenticeship for the spirit in human format - learning its trade so that it can be delegated cosmic functionality

You will do well

[Athanasiia Slav]

Welcome

>Asperger's syndrome

I would not use such a physical explanation. Better to consider more subtle issues such as trauma, karma and adverse intelligences

>I feel drawn to dark forces

The core spirituality of the human format is the Light from on high that anchors in the heart - looking like a flame. Attend to that flame. As it grows larger so will the life force in the body and the higher purpose in the human.

I have made various posts about that on this forum

It looks like a dark entity sitting on the back of your head - a good place for it to manage your brain thoughts. Use heart light to move it. If it remains use heart flame

> Slavic Rodnoverists

Close connection with nature is very good. Be careful about the karma of groups you join. Group karma flows on lines of least resistance. It is difficult being such a line.

>something dark around me what I didn't choose on my own

Family karma is an issue going back to about 1200 AD in your case. Be careful about living in areas occupied by your ancestors. Eastern Europe was a difficult place then - and still is.

>one day signing the pact

Why would you sign a pact with any apparently human group? Better perhaps to consider your relationship to the universe and beyond

Lift your consciousness and light-body above the current difficulties and function as a cosmic partner of Earth humanity

>demons aren't demonic

Consider the Tzimtzum - where The Source of All breathes out creating darkness and separation while simultaneously breathing in the now experienced intelligences to light and unity.

The Tzimtzum experience is an apprenticeship for the spirit in human format - learning its trade so that it can be delegated cosmic functionality

You will do well

Thank you for your response, I will do research about things what you have mentioned. I am glad to see your perspective.
With feeling drawn to dark side, I have meant mostly like it is around me in a corner just watching me silently (I try to use a bit of metaphor to tell the best what I mean) and I have my own consciousness so I see that. Also ofc there is a dark side in me like after trauma and pain what I hold in. How can I find the light? I know I am not an evil or something and I have the love for animals, for interests, for very few people but surely not as bright as when I was a kid.

When I will be able to finally to join Rodnoverists, I will be just in case more careful. I want to live in Slovenia in future and I saw there are 2 groups (much more I have seen in other countries).

Family karma.. Is it possible to protect myself from it (I know there are varied ways for protection but wouldn't it be different in this scenario, stricte for karma?).

The pact I have meant with the devil(s). Like there is something (also knowledge) what I need in life to be full myself and do my whole work in right ways, what I am meant for and what I do the best and I wanted to know how does it affect afterlife and I wanted to know more stricte from members here about experience, knowledge with it. Do you think would it be different if I have chosen to work with demons instead?

Have a better day

[Amor]

>there is a dark side in me like after trauma and pain what I hold in.

There is emotional pain that produces reaction rather than response. Love yourself using heart light.

The damaged part of you is healed by self-love and self-forgiveness. Forgiving and loving those that oppressed you is necessary too

>Family karma.. Is it possible to protect myself from it

The more you operate with heart light (that is love) the more you lift yourself above the energy frequencies of the family karma.

>The pact I have meant with the devil(s). Like there is something (also knowledge)

Committing yourself to low frequency energies is a very popular. Better perhaps to commit to the unfoldment of the Cosmos.

Dark forces organize to capture humans for many lives. For example helpful spirits incarnating as humans are commonly put into dark families many times.

This has the benefit of forcing the incarnating spirit to manage its humanness more quickly so that it can be about its work sooner.

[Cerber]

A lot happened that I consider one day signing the pact but out of knowledge of you all, your beliefs, your thoughts, how it would affect me and afterlife? I understand payment and "suffering" is fair enough like I get it. At the same time I don't want to loose ever a chance to be finally fully in my own place. For me demons aren't demonic (if it makes a sense), I want to learn about them, I want to contact with them in future to ask them about themselves, ask for some support. So how is it with the pact or after reading my side, wouldn't be just long-term working with demons better in my case?

Personal opinion, but I wouldn't recommend trying invocations and definitely wouldn't recommend making pacts with anyone, at this stage. Even if you are a darkling, you're never immune from making lasting mistakes.
In ideal world, people would start from learning about themselves and their immediate environment, before venturing out in to the wild. Starting with and mastering meditations, self control, focus, learning to see and hear what's already around. And invocations, "pacts" and whatnot - way way after, with extra care, quite likely by then non of those will be needed anyway.

I don't think anyone can accurately predict how your action in life will effect your afterlife, too many variables. And nothing really written in stone, and different takes you will encounter from different people in different mediums - will be more like generic, abstract guidelines to an average nobody, than an actual rules that apply to everybody.

[Athanasiia Slav]

A lot happened that I consider one day signing the pact but out of knowledge of you all, your beliefs, your thoughts, how it would affect me and afterlife? I understand payment and "suffering" is fair enough like I get it. At the same time I don't want to loose ever a chance to be finally fully in my own place. For me demons aren't demonic (if it makes a sense), I want to learn about them, I want to contact with them in future to ask them about themselves, ask for some support. So how is it with the pact or after reading my side, wouldn't be just long-term working with demons better in my case?

Personal opinion, but I wouldn't recommend trying invocations and definitely wouldn't recommend making pacts with anyone, at this stage. Even if you are a darkling, you're never immune from making lasting mistakes.
In ideal world, people would start from learning about themselves and their immediate environment, before venturing out in to the wild. Starting with and mastering meditations, self control, focus, learning to see and hear what's already around. And invocations, "pacts" and whatnot - way way after, with extra care, quite likely by then non of those will be needed anyway.

I don't think anyone can accurately predict how your action in life will effect your afterlife, too many variables. And nothing really written in stone, and different takes you will encounter from different people in different mediums - will be more like generic, abstract guidelines to an average nobody, than an actual rules that apply to everybody.

Thank you a lot for your more advanced answer. There is a long journey ahead of me so I have much time to educate myself more, see how it goes. I will keep your full response in my brain and heart, I will analyze fully and make the best decision what I will need. Do you think when we work on ourselves more from Lilith side, shadow work (I call it "astral self-care"), we get what we wanted to ask for? Lately I see "Morgue Official" on yt and I get what he says about the real name of god, who is the real devil etc and I was thinking if it is the same like asking

[Cerber]

Not entirely sure what you mean, I'm not very familiar with the current mainstream trends.
What I mean, by "learning about themselves", is a self re-discovery in a less abstract and in a more practical sense. When we start, what we think we are, all our beliefs, dreams, hopes, feelings and thoughts, all the needs and wants, all that we are made of - is a large pile of noise, echoes of the machine, to the most part at least, most of the time.
Ideally, as one of the first things, a practitioner and a traveller should do, is to take time and effort to answer basic questions like "What am I without all the machinery, and who's voices are there left when I force my own mind, the machine, to be silent? How many am I? Where did we come from?"
It can be rather hard to plan for future, to make good choices, to take the right steps, without knowing where you came from, not knowing your own origin, your true home, your own family, because depending on those basic variables, some paths (choices, directions) can be nearly impossible to navigate, while some other ones might just fit you like a glove, can be effortless. And based on those same variables, some factions can be overtly or covertly hostile towards you, while others will threat you with extra kindness and respect.
We don't all come from exact same place, nor are we actually heading to the same destination. Some say that potentially we all could trace our origins to exact same point in the universe, same spark of light, same big bang, etc, but none of that means much now, when eternity later we all split in to thousands of different factions, with different allegiances and vastly different goals.
In other words, I personally don't think one should be making pacts with anyone, without first consulting his/her own family on such matters.

I don't know Lilith personally very well, I try to avoid commenting on people I don't know well enough. I vibe much better with Mama Yaga.