Original post: midnit magik
some interesting links.
http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.c ... hroom.html
http://mushroom-atlantis.blogspot.com/2 ... rgate.html
http://video.google.com/url?docid=60567 ... Ci23UjP1pg
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Socrates, 2400 years ago, said: "Wisdom is knowing how little we know"
So if people, or at least one hell of a wise guy, knew this 2400 years
ago, it would make you wonder how most people have turned into the
warmongering religious fanatics (both in the middle east and the west).
It is what Terence Mckenna and Michael Tsarion (and countless others probably)
all say - humanity right now isn't at its "peak" or even approaching it! The peak
of humanity, wisdom, knowledge, passed us by probably tens of thousands of
years ago.
The pyramids, all I would like to see is some company put one
stone on top of another m'kay. For proper proof, take the heaviest stones in the Giza
complex and try to do it with stones that size. They do not need to build a pyramid like
the Great Pyramid that has 2.3 Million blocks of stone - enough stone to build 30 Empire
State Buildings, or a wall around France that is 3 Metres high and 1 Metre thick (although
that would be a great idea, sorry French, but it would!) but no one CAN even go a fraction
of the way whoever built those things went - 0.00000004 of the way! That is all they have
to do to convince me - put one block of stone on top of another, they can't do it today,
5500+ years later, although some say the pyramids are far older than that, tens of
thousands of years older.
I think it is interesting that some of the researchers in Egypt have started to uncover huge cities of the workers they claim built the pyramids. The interesting thing is that the workers were far from peasants and slaves. They had many bakeries and food preparation areas and they are uncovering facts that totally go against the whole jew as a slave disinfo campaign.
This is an exciting time in which we live and each day brings us closer to the Truth.
Why the ancients where more advanced then us today.
1 - The Empire State Building is just a shell of a building.
2 - For the above reason, it will not still be there in 5500 years time.
3 - You can build 30 Empire State Buildings from the amount of stone
in the great Pyramid.
4 - My argument isn't about todays workers working with stone, it is that
there isn't a crane strong enough to lift stones as large as the largest
stones in the pyramid... therefore it follows to suggest that the Egyptians,
or should I say whoever/whatever built those pyramids, was more advanced
than we are now, because we cannot do what they did. I have heard various
thin excuses as to how these people built those pyramids, the most common
one is that they built ramps and pushed the stones up the ramps, just one
problem with this - it would take more stone to build the ramp than it would
the pyramid and the ramp would have to be on such a shallow gradient that
the ramp would have to be miles long. The other theory is sheer manpower,
that millions of people lifted the stone... just one problem with this, you cannot
physically fit enough people around the base of those stones for them to be able
to lift them.
5 - I can't prove this but Stephen Mehler who studies the "Khemit" (ancient Egypt)
said the great pyramid only deviates half an inch (12.5mm) across the entirety of
its one acre base. He reckons it is actually built on the top of a levelled off mountain
of granite. Also, he says some stones are held together with a substance we cannot
identify, like a cement. Not only are the pyramids impossible for us to build now in
2007 but they were even made to be waterproof, and also have "air conditioning"
if you want to call it that, I guess thats what it is, air conditioning.
... there was a guy claiming the Egyptians had
advanced technology, gadgets and so on, then another guy saying no way, wheres
the evidence of such technology... then the other guy said what is true, that if they
had gadgets like that there won't be anything left of any of them now, because
anything that is not "nailed to the floor" so to speak, gets taken by whoever is
passing by and used to make spears, whatever. Even the metal brackets that
hold some of those stones toether have been removed/stolen, all the interiors
of all the known pyramids have been emptied... I have to agree with that view,
that there wouldn't be any technology left if the Egyptians had such a thing, but
then, its not logical to say this, its like Bush claiming Iraq has WMD's and because
we cant find them it doesn't mean he hasn't got them, no but whilst you can't find
these things then indeed, there is no proof of it. The guy arguing for the Egyptian
gadgets said if you drove to Africa today and left a Land Rover there, then came
back in just 2 weeks, there would be no Land Rover! Not because anyone drove
it away but because they dismantled it and turned it into cooking pots, spears
and so on. Even though theres no proof of Egyptian tech, I still can accept that this
could have happened to the gadgets.
If its cranes though, then I can't really see anyone being able to dismantle something
like that without people later on at least working out it belonged to a crane, so I don't
think they were using cranes, no.
intrestingly the pyramid blocks are not the largest quarried stones used in a man made construction that goes to a huge stone block that makes up part of a wall in an ancient temple complex in turkey lebanon and is estimated to be at least 4 times larger than the biggest stone from the pyramids.
Theres also one in Peru (I think) thats part of a wall...
That biggest stone there in the middle, although you can't tell how big the stone is
from this, I think this is the right one.
Apparently theres also a massive rectangular stone in Giza thats far bigger than any of
the others, this wasn't lifted onto other stones I don't think but it was certainly moved
to where it is now. Honestly that one weighs thousands of tons.
Some of those Inca stones in Peru though, are the weight of three jumbo jets.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_baalbek_2.htm
http://www.vejprty.com/baalbek.htm
Aha, this is more like it, with people there so you can see the size of it...
Hadjar el Gouble (the Stone of the South) 1,170 metric tons
Never seen this before but this is just like the one in Giza, maybe even bigger, its the same shape too.
I read, heard, or saw, picture, or video/audio source, a theory that the Egyptians used a form or resonant energy to build he pyramids.
this resonating/amplifying sound,didnt build pyramids, it was used to create
energy inside the pyramid after it was built. It is that David Hatcher Childress that said, in
ancient Africa, there was a river that was many times bigger than the nile - 100 miles wide
and thousands of miles long. He reckons, tunnels were made from this river to the pyramids...
well theres no reckoning really I mean the tunnels are there to this day, but they go to a dry
river bed, that some argue isn't a river bed and that there was no ancient river, but there is
grass growing there to this day that David Hatcher Childress said lives because there is still
water deep deep underground.
He said the reason these water tunnels were made was so water could run underneath the
pyramids and it was the noise of the flowing water that resonated up into the chambers of
the pyramid. He even said they got it wrong at one point and caused an explosion inside
the pyramid (the ceiling is charred). Of course, it could have just been burnt with a torch
but its really high up though... he reckons the explosion was caused by the water and the
sound of it amplifying too much.
I got that video/lecture on eMule, its David Hatcher Childress, the same one who found
the Mayan ceiling... in Egypt inside a remote tomb the public are not allowed into and he
had to do some arm twisting to even be able to go inside it. It was a great video that, in
fact I am gonna watch it again tonight.
They say engineers from all over the world go to these places and are amazed at how well these buildings are built.
The funny thing is that the older the building the better made they are.
The buildings were designed to last and stand for thousands of years
I just dont get lucky with this sort of thing.
Do you people know about Iapetus?
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm
Now there's an interesting concept: Those stones weren't carried or built by humans alone, but with help of alien powers. They were only calling them 'gods' later on, because of the unknown factors, because the people back then actually experienced the 'talents' of alien forces first hand. Who would believe them? Even today. When I write this people will say that I'm a nutcase. I don't think I am. The god-like creations are warning signs, telling us of what and who were here before, created with the help of those creatures themselves. They have wings for a reason. They are being connected with 'great powers' for a reason. Because they actually HAD those powers. Because they could fly. Because they came 'from the skies'.
I wonder if anyone has ever considered that the Earths gravitational pull might have been
nowhere near as much as it is today? Or that maybe in "key places" on the "grid" of
what they call ley lines, the gravity was nowhere near as much?
and easy to lift the blocks?
Damn man have I stumbled on something here or what?! The poles could have shifted
since that time, or could have had that "golden era" as they call it where building these
collosal structures was possible.
Maybe having gravity @ 1000 times less than it is now could kill humans, for whatever
reason, like depleted muscles etc etc, I don't know.
Even if the reason these stones were transportable was because of a far weaker
gravitational pull on the Earth, it still doesn't really explain how they cut the stones
so perfectly. Theres even things in Egypt carved out of stone so well that people
have said you can't carve stuff out of stone THAT accurately without using
a laser to do it!
Stuff like this, look at how perfectly carved it is...
Look at the carvings behind it too... they are hardly carvings, more like "cut"
into the rock in one feld swoop (no pun intended with the owl, lol)
But whats the deal with all these animal/human human animals huh? I think
they were messing about with genes, splicing humans with animals etc, we get
told these are all gods and so on but, hmmmm, were these people really as
stupid as we are?! I think not! Saying its all "gods" is the easy way to say
"nobody really knows why" but people have answers for everything, this is
what annoys me... no, theres just things we CANNOT explain, ACCEPT IT.
That video is called:
Technology.of.the.Gods.-.The.Incredible.Sciences.of.the.Ancients.(David.Childress).(2004).avi (90 mins)
Its not on Google Video though
If you wanna see it have a look on eMule (slow but you will get it in the end)
or download (small file) or watch from here.
http://www.dark-truth.org/okt21-2006-10.html
download
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/netscape/us/v ... uts_dl.avi
The Sphinx was said to be connected to the people from the civilization of Atlantis.
(Atlantis is said to be an even older and more ancient civilization than Egypt, but many of its influences live on today)
They were said to have had flying machines and advanced laser technology, using light and crystals!
Star Wars anyone? Not that these people were where Star Wars came from.
But, deep in the subconscious we will see that what has happend will happen again.
The same story told an infinute number of times, just a different way of telling it because of the language
and contemporary way of thinking! Take for instance Christ and Krishna, same story but told in a different way!
It was said that they were punished for abusing their power, hence why the ocean swallowed them.
This is also a modern day occurrence with Global Warming and massive storms like Katrina!
We have advanced laser technology using crystals and flying machines. But these have been abused again!
Made for destruction, we will only see destruction. BUT if made for life, we will see life. There is an interconnectedness
in everything. It only takes shifting that point of view to see it.
Take for example! You're watching a baseball game right?
You're seat is out in center field slightly more towards right field. And you watch the pitcher throw a mean fast ball!
You're rooting for the batter and the ump calls a strike! But from your angle it looks like he threw a ball! So you get
upset and start calling the ump all kinds of bad names. Telling him he should get some glasses! Etc! But, if you only shifted
your view more in the spot like the ump, your bias would be different! This is what we see happening in real world conflicts!
I could come up with lots more examples but this one is easy enough to get! You could apply this example to anything from
Basketball to track, imagining as you're the coach or the official, the player or the spectator! From the different positions there will always
be a different view! So I believe its important for us not to brush off someone's point of view right away without giving it thought,
for it could be the answer! At the same time, its important not to roll with a person's point of view immediately for someone else
might come along with a more accurate point! It's the open mind theory. Keeping an open mind will bring you great knowledge of all views!
Therefore you will appear less bias!
Anyways, I'm not saying anyone is bias here, I'm just iterating my belief into how I see things in a very connected way!
So, back to the Sphinx! A man named Edgar Casey, who was a modern century prophet (like Nostradamus) who saw things
that others couldn't. But he only saw these things when he hypnotized himself. He basically tapped into the subconscious of the mind
where space and time are irrelevant. Past, Present and Future are one with everything.
So he saw things in the past, Atlantian times,
present, with modern sickness and medicinal advices, and he predicted the wars to come, including the great transition in 2000 to 2012!
His readings were dated back before the great depression (which he also predicted), he saw that under the right foot of the Sphinx were
hidden all the secrets of Atlantis. That was before technology really boomed! Is there a coincidence or did we just discover their existence
and try to dupe them off as a myth and claim that we developed their technologies?
This is my true question for you! As our governments
have been ruled by deception and fraud( science will only look at what ever fits in fabricated puzzle and reject other sciences that dont). Wouldn't it at all be possible for them to claim this as their own? Cause once claimed, you get royalties.(look at tesla invention where supressed also so we could not have free energy)
thats how I see it! If it were a technology from Atlantians then it should be free for us all, for they left it to us! But along with such power
comes great responsibility! And that is what our governments have been quite lacking in! Responsibility towards its own people and to life itself!
It seems as though we are being ruled by those who follow the evil path of the closed fist philosophy! It's time to transform this dark presents in
all of us into light. Only then we will truly be responsible beings of life! And transforming darkness isn't done by using darkness on darkness!
Thats just like saying I want to make green, so I think I'll mix blue with blue!
Anyway I'm done for now. Hope I've induced some thought, for while writing this response, I certainly induced my own!
It will explain it better then I can.
Watch it and see if it still sounds crazy
http://www.dark-truth.org/okt21-2006-10.html
download (100 megs)
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/netscape/us/v ... uts_dl.avi
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Popular Lost Cities author David Childress opens the door to the amazing world of ancient technology, from the computers of the ancient world to the "flying machines of the gods." Technology of the Gods explores the technology that was allegedly used in Atlantis and the theory that the Great Pyramid of Egypt was originally a gigantic power station. Childress also uncovers many other mysteries, including: *
the technology of ancient flight *
how the ancients used electricity *
megalithic building techniques *
the use of crystal lenses and the fire from the gods *
ancient evidence of high-tech weapons, including atomic weapons *
the role of modern inventors, such as Nikola Tesla, in bringing ancient technology into modern use *
impossible artifacts, and more, much more. Childress has done it again! From beginning to end, Technology of the Gods is filled with facts, keen observations and tales that challenge modern assumptions in a humorous, intelligent and compelling way that is quintessential Childress.
About the Author
David Hatcher Childress is the author of 15 books, including The Lost Cities Series, The Time Travel Handbook and The Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla. He has appeared in numerous documentaries about Atlantis, ancient mysteries and UFOs, including The Mysterious Origins of Man, with Charlton Heston, and The Search For Atlantis, with Richard Crenna. He also appears regularly on national and international radio programs. He lives near Chicago.
One more thing I will add
Still think Atlantis is a myth of mythical proportions ?? .
That is the same thing they said about troy.. untill it was discovered
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Every student knows of the story of Troy, the tale told by Homer in the Iliad thousands of years ago. For centuries, it was believed that it was just that, a story, while the city of Troy lay buried beneath the sands of Turkey and the mythology of the past. But in 1870, a German entrepreneur by the name of Heinrich Schliemann set out, with Iliad in hand, to discover the ancient city and validate the story of Homer. By 1873, he had unearthed the city of Troy, one of archaeology's most famous discoveries.
http://library.thinkquest.org/3011/troy.htm
Many scholars and scientists ridiculed the accounts as myth. ...
the german Heinrich Schliemann, is almost as legendary He was ridiculed in archeological circles (he had never studied archeology)
He defying the ridicule of the learned world, and he actually unearths the remains of the ancient city of Troy. ...
Its only a matter of time until Atlantis is discovered.
Where

?
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... tis++Andes
or
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats ... 71f87e8be0
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"Legend has it that a vast subterranean network exists in the Andes. This would infer engineering skill of the highest calibre which the early inhabitants of South America did not lack. The megalithic stonework of Tiahuanaco has to be seen to be believed. Stones are fitted together with insets without cement as if they were ivory and not 20-ton stone blocks. These ruins were ancient even at the time of the Conquest, nor could the Indians of the period provide an answer as to the identity of the Titan-builders. Another puzzle at Tiahuanaco is the absence of burial sites in the complex. Does the reign of the Tiahuanacan Empire... go back to an unknown chapter of prehistory?"
"The Jesuit Agnelio Oliva (1572-1542) recorded the words of an old Inca quipu reader to the effect that the real Tiahuanaco was a subterranean city exceeding the one above ground in vastness. It was believed that the entrance to the underground apartments could be gained through four tunnels. Last century one passage was evidently found as treasure hunters managed to get in, to look for gold, but only one came out. He brought out with him two gold bars but left behind his sanity. After this incident the Peruvian government decided to wall up the cave entrance..."
Lost Subterranean Incan Treasures in Bolivia and Peru
There have been many historical figures (Incans and Spaniards) from the era of the Spanish Conquistadors that stated that the Incas kept a well guarded secret of underground tunnels criss-crossing Bolivia and Peru. They also attested that those ancient tunnels hundreds of miles long were built by an unknown peoples many years before them! Perhaps the Tiahuanacans? Check out the underlined link on on top for more info.
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ Best Torrent site for info around
Come and talk about this and many other things
http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums
Enjoy
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Michael Tsarion's - Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation...
.... I love this book!
Cross-reference Tsarion's book with his selected sources and you will find interesting parallels to this website albeit from different references, angles, and points of view.
Is Tsarion's book without error? No! Could the author have inadvertantly interlaced his theories with contradictory STS sources? Sure, it happens to the best of us. I find several of his theories questionable, but going back to the driving points of the book, Tsarion raises important thought provoking ideas about our origins and the nature of evil itself which warrant further research.
the following is a loose overview of a book by Michael Tsarion entitled Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation...
1. God is the essence of all things.
2. Good and evil are 2 sides of the same coin
3. Humans embody both good and evil (in our DNA code)
4. We are a hybrid race containing strands of human/Nephilim (alien) DNA
5. The 'God' in the Bible is in fact a nefarious race of extraterrestrials who have
brought destruction down upon the Earth
6. These same creatures have tampered with our DNA and are the hidden power behind
the world governments (aka New World Order)
7. The first 'Adam' was created to serve the gods...toiling in the mines (the Garden of Eden)
extracting minerals and providing for the Nephilim's every need (Slaves)
8. Jehovah in the Bible is in fact 'Satan' the adversary
9. 'Adam' (the 1st genetically hybridized race created to be the slaves of the Nephilim) rebelled against 'God'. This is alluded to in the Genesis account of the Garden of Eden.
10. The serpent in the garden is good (wished to impart knowledge to Adam and Eve)
11. The serpent represents the 1st remnants of the Adamic race that rebelled against their creators/oppressors. The Biblical flood is in fact a reference to the attempts by the extra-terrestrial Nefilim aka Jehovah race to destroy their 1st creation. (This point is made very clear in Genesis)
12. The hybridization of our human DNA explains our aggressive, warlike, and destructive behavior (until we address the root cause of what makes us evil then we will continue rape, pillage, and plunder our 'Earth Mother' which sustains us, while commiting atrocities against ourselves to the point of mass ecocide/genocide.
13. When you pray to the 'God" of the Bible you are in fact praying to Satan. No one is more deserving of the title of 'Satan' (adversary) than Jehovah
14. Human means slave
15. Our political and corporate leaders (bloodline) have a higher concentration of
alien DNA, although they may look human, they owe their allegiance to
the 'Dark Overlords'
16. We are being subliminally manipulated through ancient symbols that are being incorporated into popular ads...these images are in fact encoded in our DNA and are subliminally being used to keep us from accessing our higher natures.
17. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is in fact a corporation owned by the Vatican.
18. Organized religion is a nefarious design by the 'Dark Overlords' to imprint upon
us the 'Big Daddy' archetype which has collectively wreaked havoc upon our civilization.
Jehovah is the ultimate 'Big Daddy' who is portrayed in the Bible as a bloodthirsty
warlord hell bent on enslaving and destroying mother Earth and humanity. This reinforces our patriarchical society which suppresses women through organized religion...
19. Examples of other 'Big Daddy' archetypes include the likes of John Wayne, Moses (Charelton Heston) Ronald Reagan, GW, Arnold Schwartzenegger, etc.
20. Until we recognize these realities, we will continue to live in cognitive dissonance,
subconsciously projecting our dark shadows collectively upon society, thus perpetuating wars, strife,
and famines.
The timeline was very interesting. The timeline can serve as an index of topics to research. Another interesting book that I just read was The Gods of Eden by William Bramly which I would highly reccomend
ORIGINS & ORACLES
The Complete Series on DVD
Produced and presented by Michael Tsarion
Release Date
Thursday April 27, 2006
http://www.originsandoracles.com
...in the tradition of Joseph Campbell, Michael Tsarion leaves no stone unturned
in the search for truth - (Allen David Reed, President Holysis)
HOME PAGE
http://www.taroscopes.com/home.html
his study of the subversive use of symbolism? His facts seem to be accurate in this regard.
The idea that ancient symbols are encoded into our collective subconscious via our DNA code is an earth-shattering revelation! To think that we are being constantly bombarded with corporate logos using ancient symbology (ie. attaching spiritual themes to consumable products) is a HUGE wake up call. This takes subliminals to a whole new paradigm. What I saw in the DVD promo clips blew my mind! When you view those DVD's please let me know what you think about them...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou ... a=N&tab=wv
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check the whole series on torrent sites.
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