Original post: jason
http://ghoststudy.com/gallery.html
Anyone ever looked at some of these pictures? I know I am changing the subject but this site seems to be good at separating real from hoax. Combining pictures, videos of ghosts and evil spirits with the knowledge of people's personals encounters with the paranormal does seem to be something going on. But again is it inside of us or are there intelligent beings that have everything except a physical body.
Some good ones:
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/aug04/asylum.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/may04/mirror.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/mar04/skeleton.html
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/oct04/amityville.htm
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[QUOTE=jason]http://ghoststudy.com/gallery.html
But again is it inside of us or are there intelligent beings that have everything except a physical body.[/QUOTE]
Does the waves have motion or is it the moon, and who decides a womans fertile period?
[QUOTE=jason]http://ghoststudy.com/gallery.html
But again is it inside of us or are there intelligent beings that have everything except a physical body.[/QUOTE]
Does the waves have motion or is it the moon, and who decides a womans fertile period?
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[QUOTE=jason]http://ghoststudy.com/gallery.html
Anyone ever looked at some of these pictures? I know I am changing the subject but this site seems to be good at separating real from hoax. Combining pictures, videos of ghosts and evil spirits with the knowledge of people's personals encounters with the paranormal does seem to be something going on. But again is it inside of us or are there intelligent beings that have everything except a physical body.
Some good ones:
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/aug04/asylum.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/may04/mirror.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/mar04/skeleton.html
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/oct04/amityville.htm[/QUOTE]
I know this is easily explained, but when I was watching the twin towers fall on 911 on constant repeat on TV, I sat up in my chair and stared at the screen when a demonic smoke cloud appeared on my TV. A little later, since I never saw it again, I decided to search the internet to see if anyone else saw it because generally anything I think of is already online. To my surprise I discovered that Fox had permanently edited the footage out because it was "too disturbing". I know that you can see all kinds of shit if you just lay and watch the clouds, but man oh man, this thing really looked like a demon. And when you consider that magicians sometimes use incense smoke as a temporary physical body for demons to manifest into the physical, there's no reason to flat-out reject that the smoke formations might have been more than random. Here's a (lame) site where you can see both images: http://www.jesusismygod.com/smoke_face.html Scroll to the bottom to view the one I saw on my TV. It looked way clearer than that because there were a few angles. I remember it was really close up and looked like a smiling skull face and I said, "Holy shit! Look at that!" and when my girlfriend looked they had switched the angle and I said, "ah, there was just a skull" and then the second camera panned out and you saw the skull again and the more it pulled back you just kept seeing more of the demonic shape. It was really bizarre and the scythe, horned helmet, demon skull and dragon tail were all very clear.
Anyway... one thing you can take comfort in is that the Bible says that before the end comes, everyone will know the one true god and we will make our choice which side we want to be on. Obviously, this has not occured, but *if* it does, you will not have to worry about what is what anymore. And all that hell b.s. is Catholic dogma. If the God of the universe stood up and said, "hello everyone here I am," no other entity could compete with his majesty, I'm sure.
[QUOTE=jason]http://ghoststudy.com/gallery.html
Anyone ever looked at some of these pictures? I know I am changing the subject but this site seems to be good at separating real from hoax. Combining pictures, videos of ghosts and evil spirits with the knowledge of people's personals encounters with the paranormal does seem to be something going on. But again is it inside of us or are there intelligent beings that have everything except a physical body.
Some good ones:
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/aug04/asylum.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/may04/mirror.htm
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/mar04/skeleton.html
http://ghoststudy.com/monthly/oct04/amityville.htm[/QUOTE]
I know this is easily explained, but when I was watching the twin towers fall on 911 on constant repeat on TV, I sat up in my chair and stared at the screen when a demonic smoke cloud appeared on my TV. A little later, since I never saw it again, I decided to search the internet to see if anyone else saw it because generally anything I think of is already online. To my surprise I discovered that Fox had permanently edited the footage out because it was "too disturbing". I know that you can see all kinds of shit if you just lay and watch the clouds, but man oh man, this thing really looked like a demon. And when you consider that magicians sometimes use incense smoke as a temporary physical body for demons to manifest into the physical, there's no reason to flat-out reject that the smoke formations might have been more than random. Here's a (lame) site where you can see both images: http://www.jesusismygod.com/smoke_face.html Scroll to the bottom to view the one I saw on my TV. It looked way clearer than that because there were a few angles. I remember it was really close up and looked like a smiling skull face and I said, "Holy shit! Look at that!" and when my girlfriend looked they had switched the angle and I said, "ah, there was just a skull" and then the second camera panned out and you saw the skull again and the more it pulled back you just kept seeing more of the demonic shape. It was really bizarre and the scythe, horned helmet, demon skull and dragon tail were all very clear.
Anyway... one thing you can take comfort in is that the Bible says that before the end comes, everyone will know the one true god and we will make our choice which side we want to be on. Obviously, this has not occured, but *if* it does, you will not have to worry about what is what anymore. And all that hell b.s. is Catholic dogma. If the God of the universe stood up and said, "hello everyone here I am," no other entity could compete with his majesty, I'm sure.
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Good photos- actually somewhere on that ghost site are other pictures of the WTC but they are actually positive. One shows what looks like a man helping a kid in the smoke.
I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am".
Good photos- actually somewhere on that ghost site are other pictures of the WTC but they are actually positive. One shows what looks like a man helping a kid in the smoke.
I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am".
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[QUOTE=jason]Good photos- actually somewhere on that ghost site are other pictures of the WTC but they are actually positive. One shows what looks like a man helping a kid in the smoke. [/quote]
Cool! I gotta look for that.
[QUOTE=jason]I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am".[/QUOTE]
Imagine if everyone's universes are really a lot more seperate and internally contained than we think and this happens routinely as a matter of course in each individual's life-- perhaps upon death? I'm not saying it does, but just imagine if it did. Imagining all the possibilities and realizing how little I actually know sometimes gives me a certain sense of security.
[QUOTE=jason]Good photos- actually somewhere on that ghost site are other pictures of the WTC but they are actually positive. One shows what looks like a man helping a kid in the smoke. [/quote]
Cool! I gotta look for that.
[QUOTE=jason]I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am".[/QUOTE]
Imagine if everyone's universes are really a lot more seperate and internally contained than we think and this happens routinely as a matter of course in each individual's life-- perhaps upon death? I'm not saying it does, but just imagine if it did. Imagining all the possibilities and realizing how little I actually know sometimes gives me a certain sense of security.
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Original post: jason
Also bizarre look at this page where there are images of a UFO present during first plane crash into the building. Again, maybe a link between demonic/UFOS
http://therev67.tripod.com/wtc/
Another WTC image of something is at the bottom of the page but you have to click on the link after the two demonic pictures.
It stands to reason that if demons need fear and other human emotions to manifest that the WTC would have been a supreme energy opportunity to manifest in all the ways these pictures seem to indicate.
Also bizarre look at this page where there are images of a UFO present during first plane crash into the building. Again, maybe a link between demonic/UFOS
http://therev67.tripod.com/wtc/
Another WTC image of something is at the bottom of the page but you have to click on the link after the two demonic pictures.
It stands to reason that if demons need fear and other human emotions to manifest that the WTC would have been a supreme energy opportunity to manifest in all the ways these pictures seem to indicate.
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beliieving is a manifestation of many things, but nature in its intirety for reason in knowing. i mean i dont have to consider anything for it to be real outside of my own opinion, but i have to wonder where i stand when i recognize the reality in which so many other things coincide to Truth. existance above personal belief is pure, because it is real enough to look at but still pure enough to not see. we live in a world the way we see it as is the way it must seem, but nothing is what it seems, needing not be seemed if it were real and we've never seen it. things exist, contrast to psychological aspect, literal defiance or spiritual belief because option is endless. i have to remember, personal revelation and reality is different in opinion next to what someone else "see's" for the main purpose reality is difference to each individual. but how can that be true if being Truth has no two sides, but two differences in interpretation of hearing? how there can be two sides to a whole, in a balance, not, nature, but in being there is, in nature, how can there be an option being in purpose a representation of truth of what its opposit actually is, outside of belief? and there are no absolutes but there are, if lifes contradiction were easily seen why werent they easily understood, something tangible. its like you see and you remember but you forget the minute you do for the main reason something doesnt seem to be the way it was said, when it comes together and it is exactly what it was saying, maybe a little different, we just didnt hear it that way. we have to remember, life, before the calamity and comodity of civilization was totally different, there was a sense of truth in existance, purpose. and yeah, i'm leaning to like 3 or 4 subjects for the main reason of what i'm trying to say in particular. i've had a lot of encounters with demonic entities and shit, i wont get into it, but the reality of it is, i didnt have to believe in them, i never did for them to have existed beyond what i could comprehend them as. in my own comprehension i give it a nature by idea of how i see it, when i might be right for the main reason knowledge is the access of wisdom, i may also be wrong if nature existed before i had the time to label it for how i saw it, because it existed before i was able to give it option. and i've been through some freaky shit, seen some freaky things that question medical science, defies literal mind and makes you wonder what the fuck is going on here because either i am perfectly sane or i am just going absolutely nuts for the main fact, i dont "know" what the fuck is going on. whats the difference between general insanity and spirituality? literal sense of accomplishment, in opinion. and it all comes back to a lot of different things, there is no one option without casual idea of what else can be possible, there are no absolutions unless we create them or destroy them, yeah but it says something. as uncertain as life is, if half of what we thought we knew were wrong, being we thought we were right our entire life, we have to wonder, how the fuck lost are we in thinking if our entire life we were absolutely wrong? yeah the occult, religion, faith, belief, idea, perception, all of that, in intrest of reliance in what we're looking for still can be defied by reason. the mind defies enough as it is, because things outside of what we should realize is that difference is a seperation to truth, when Truth exist with no difference, and there are a lot of things True in this existance that represent both sides to nature. we might think we know, and realize that we might have an idea, but is by faith things are possible to realize we can also create them, so being reality exist outside of what we think, how we see or what is, and just because we think we may be right, we might also be wrong because we either didnt or we did. walk the grey line of experience and you dont have to worry about that shit, and God loves you anyway because you know the Truth in that from experience of both good and evil. i dont want to go through some shaded life thinking i'm right if i'm wrong, a seconds comprehension takes weeks to decifer, i'de rather walk in the sun so i know whats it like so i can be shaded, but its in those seconds you dont ever have to ask again unless you answered it yourself which all goes back. reliance on self is society, believing in faith is religion, knowing in fact is Truth, and its the ultimate faith because knowing is a lack of question, free from thought, to conceive doubt. i had a vision once, i went to a party at this place called fight club and i was doing quarters and drinking beer, smoke some herb and got a little too toasted, so i went home. everything started to spin, i didnt really know what the fuck to do, i was uncoordinated and intoxicated so i just closed my eyes and embraced it. it was dark and then i saw this pure white light coming from the middle spreading out across in a circular motion, then strands of purple came in and just flowed with it, then it became perfectly light and i see this dark figure, who i had seen outside my head in plain sight a few weeks earlier and he says to me, "its all in your head." then i woke up and i was completely sober. and i knew, there was a bigger option there, because i could take that about as many ways as it can be taken, so i have to look at the angle of what that means, in what it is outside of what i think it to be. whether i'm right, whether i'm wrong, doesnt matter, but the idea is, being because i might think i'm right, there is always going to be somebody else out there that doesnt agree with what i'm saying, because personal belief defies notion of truth in what is outside thought, but its in Truth, we dont have to worry about mans empending judgement for the mere fact we know what it is, whether any other man does or doesnt, reliance of self is survival, in all that we are, is alone, it necessity. its not about being deep, its about reaching the surface so its not that complicated anymore. complicity in knowing we wanted to be right because we realized we might have been wrong. repentance and redemption go hand and hand, as is everything else connected on a much larger scale, it happens.
complicity, thats all it is.
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beliieving is a manifestation of many things, but nature in its intirety for reason in knowing. i mean i dont have to consider anything for it to be real outside of my own opinion, but i have to wonder where i stand when i recognize the reality in which so many other things coincide to Truth. existance above personal belief is pure, because it is real enough to look at but still pure enough to not see. we live in a world the way we see it as is the way it must seem, but nothing is what it seems, needing not be seemed if it were real and we've never seen it. things exist, contrast to psychological aspect, literal defiance or spiritual belief because option is endless. i have to remember, personal revelation and reality is different in opinion next to what someone else "see's" for the main purpose reality is difference to each individual. but how can that be true if being Truth has no two sides, but two differences in interpretation of hearing? how there can be two sides to a whole, in a balance, not, nature, but in being there is, in nature, how can there be an option being in purpose a representation of truth of what its opposit actually is, outside of belief? and there are no absolutes but there are, if lifes contradiction were easily seen why werent they easily understood, something tangible. its like you see and you remember but you forget the minute you do for the main reason something doesnt seem to be the way it was said, when it comes together and it is exactly what it was saying, maybe a little different, we just didnt hear it that way. we have to remember, life, before the calamity and comodity of civilization was totally different, there was a sense of truth in existance, purpose. and yeah, i'm leaning to like 3 or 4 subjects for the main reason of what i'm trying to say in particular. i've had a lot of encounters with demonic entities and shit, i wont get into it, but the reality of it is, i didnt have to believe in them, i never did for them to have existed beyond what i could comprehend them as. in my own comprehension i give it a nature by idea of how i see it, when i might be right for the main reason knowledge is the access of wisdom, i may also be wrong if nature existed before i had the time to label it for how i saw it, because it existed before i was able to give it option. and i've been through some freaky shit, seen some freaky things that question medical science, defies literal mind and makes you wonder what the fuck is going on here because either i am perfectly sane or i am just going absolutely nuts for the main fact, i dont "know" what the fuck is going on. whats the difference between general insanity and spirituality? literal sense of accomplishment, in opinion. and it all comes back to a lot of different things, there is no one option without casual idea of what else can be possible, there are no absolutions unless we create them or destroy them, yeah but it says something. as uncertain as life is, if half of what we thought we knew were wrong, being we thought we were right our entire life, we have to wonder, how the fuck lost are we in thinking if our entire life we were absolutely wrong? yeah the occult, religion, faith, belief, idea, perception, all of that, in intrest of reliance in what we're looking for still can be defied by reason. the mind defies enough as it is, because things outside of what we should realize is that difference is a seperation to truth, when Truth exist with no difference, and there are a lot of things True in this existance that represent both sides to nature. we might think we know, and realize that we might have an idea, but is by faith things are possible to realize we can also create them, so being reality exist outside of what we think, how we see or what is, and just because we think we may be right, we might also be wrong because we either didnt or we did. walk the grey line of experience and you dont have to worry about that shit, and God loves you anyway because you know the Truth in that from experience of both good and evil. i dont want to go through some shaded life thinking i'm right if i'm wrong, a seconds comprehension takes weeks to decifer, i'de rather walk in the sun so i know whats it like so i can be shaded, but its in those seconds you dont ever have to ask again unless you answered it yourself which all goes back. reliance on self is society, believing in faith is religion, knowing in fact is Truth, and its the ultimate faith because knowing is a lack of question, free from thought, to conceive doubt. i had a vision once, i went to a party at this place called fight club and i was doing quarters and drinking beer, smoke some herb and got a little too toasted, so i went home. everything started to spin, i didnt really know what the fuck to do, i was uncoordinated and intoxicated so i just closed my eyes and embraced it. it was dark and then i saw this pure white light coming from the middle spreading out across in a circular motion, then strands of purple came in and just flowed with it, then it became perfectly light and i see this dark figure, who i had seen outside my head in plain sight a few weeks earlier and he says to me, "its all in your head." then i woke up and i was completely sober. and i knew, there was a bigger option there, because i could take that about as many ways as it can be taken, so i have to look at the angle of what that means, in what it is outside of what i think it to be. whether i'm right, whether i'm wrong, doesnt matter, but the idea is, being because i might think i'm right, there is always going to be somebody else out there that doesnt agree with what i'm saying, because personal belief defies notion of truth in what is outside thought, but its in Truth, we dont have to worry about mans empending judgement for the mere fact we know what it is, whether any other man does or doesnt, reliance of self is survival, in all that we are, is alone, it necessity. its not about being deep, its about reaching the surface so its not that complicated anymore. complicity in knowing we wanted to be right because we realized we might have been wrong. repentance and redemption go hand and hand, as is everything else connected on a much larger scale, it happens.
complicity, thats all it is.
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Just like Hindu deities, right...treated both as aspects of godhead but as individual entities at the same time...like egyptian gods too ehhhh?Neato, but I hope you realize that the orginal angels were viewed not as seperate, independant, intelligent entities, that "serve" God, but infact are God, in different aspects.
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mans image is a reflection of himself, but also his creation, the mind doesnt define who he is, but his being, and the tolls of that being in what he serves to be, whether he deliberately "serves" or not, there are a shit load of ways to take that. self indulgence in grace, to fall from it for self. angels are in almost every culture, either spiritual aspect or just a personal belief of hope, existance is reality of something that exist, outside of opinion. its like i am a representation of my being rather then myself for purposes higher then who i am, but in being i am still myself, being i am called for my nature. theoretically, every godhead from abraham to john were human angels, theoretically, i wont get into that, because that doesnt matter for shit. it defeats purpose, and that is the source of being, for everything.
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mans image is a reflection of himself, but also his creation, the mind doesnt define who he is, but his being, and the tolls of that being in what he serves to be, whether he deliberately "serves" or not, there are a shit load of ways to take that. self indulgence in grace, to fall from it for self. angels are in almost every culture, either spiritual aspect or just a personal belief of hope, existance is reality of something that exist, outside of opinion. its like i am a representation of my being rather then myself for purposes higher then who i am, but in being i am still myself, being i am called for my nature. theoretically, every godhead from abraham to john were human angels, theoretically, i wont get into that, because that doesnt matter for shit. it defeats purpose, and that is the source of being, for everything.
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[a given power represents to me as]...
who's the creator? who's the destroyer?
very well, I'll just keep on poking this tree of life, the theories pass by me as dreams...
edit: sorry, but could even satan give us temptations we shouldn't grasp?
...one would think that the most wisest of angels would have some kind of a more bigger plan than just to fuck with us for his own pleasure. Think of it. I know I do.
[a given power represents to me as]...
who's the creator? who's the destroyer?
very well, I'll just keep on poking this tree of life, the theories pass by me as dreams...
edit: sorry, but could even satan give us temptations we shouldn't grasp?
...one would think that the most wisest of angels would have some kind of a more bigger plan than just to fuck with us for his own pleasure. Think of it. I know I do.
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The Elohim, The Netjer, The Aumkar, all merely "gods that is God," "divine powers," or "forms of AUM." (i.e. the literal meanings of the names of each traditions "patheon.")
Aum, El, and Divine all refering to what some have named Tao, The All, Chaos, The Cosmic Spirit, etc, etc, etc.
Forever does humanity seek to find Dharma, but the Tao that can be described (spoken, written, thought, etc) isn't the Tao. Atleast not entirely.
The certianity of uncertianity, perhaps here lies "the beginning" of what we seek?
Or perhaps, too much meditation has fried areas of my brain which are responsible for recognising sensory differences, turning me into a monist unawarely (Hmm, re-cognising). Or perhaps, now I just can "see through the veil," like many others who are "spiritual." The I that is We, AUUMMMMM.
Just thought it would be a book you would enjoy, that's all.Specktackular: Why especially me?
*smiles* Perhaps my dear lady, perhaps. *smiles*LadyHydralisk: Just like Hindu deities, right...treated both as aspects of godhead but as individual entities at the same time...like egyptian gods too ehhhh?Neato, but I hope you realize that the orginal angels were viewed not as seperate, independant, intelligent entities, that "serve" God, but infact are God, in different aspects.
The Elohim, The Netjer, The Aumkar, all merely "gods that is God," "divine powers," or "forms of AUM." (i.e. the literal meanings of the names of each traditions "patheon.")
Aum, El, and Divine all refering to what some have named Tao, The All, Chaos, The Cosmic Spirit, etc, etc, etc.
Forever does humanity seek to find Dharma, but the Tao that can be described (spoken, written, thought, etc) isn't the Tao. Atleast not entirely.
The certianity of uncertianity, perhaps here lies "the beginning" of what we seek?
Or perhaps, too much meditation has fried areas of my brain which are responsible for recognising sensory differences, turning me into a monist unawarely (Hmm, re-cognising). Or perhaps, now I just can "see through the veil," like many others who are "spiritual." The I that is We, AUUMMMMM.
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Original post: Infidel
"I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am"."
Just look around and inside of yourself.
"I think it is about time the God of the Universe did stand up and say "here I am"."
Just look around and inside of yourself.
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Hmm, you do seem abnormally in tune today Chaostech lol
Infidel I agree...if you mean...how much more can this god stand up and say it's here when we look at all of the amazing processes happening all around us. Maybe it doesn't talk in english, because it's too limited. Oh well guess I'll just have to remain ignorant
And you're right about that Infidel, if I was the wisest of the angels I'd definately acquire a pitchfork straightaway, but I wouldn't go around poking people with it...for no good reason at least.
You know, Siva carries a pitchfork too!
Hmm, you do seem abnormally in tune today Chaostech lol
Infidel I agree...if you mean...how much more can this god stand up and say it's here when we look at all of the amazing processes happening all around us. Maybe it doesn't talk in english, because it's too limited. Oh well guess I'll just have to remain ignorant
And you're right about that Infidel, if I was the wisest of the angels I'd definately acquire a pitchfork straightaway, but I wouldn't go around poking people with it...for no good reason at least.
You know, Siva carries a pitchfork too!
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Try to stay on topic folks.
Try to stay on topic folks.
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[QUOTE=Spes]Try to stay on topic folks.[/QUOTE]
Yes and can we all try a little harder to make Leyton Orient fail that little bit more please,~ thanks to those taking part in the curse. Football is a matter of life and death? no! it is far more important
[QUOTE=Spes]Try to stay on topic folks.[/QUOTE]
Yes and can we all try a little harder to make Leyton Orient fail that little bit more please,~ thanks to those taking part in the curse. Football is a matter of life and death? no! it is far more important
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Specktacular- you're right on the whole egregore of Satan.
And in ceremonial magick the whole egregore was a medieval Satan, as such the grimoires would need to have prayers to Christ due to the grimoire Satan being an egregore of a medieval mind, despite the fact that the grimoires were often written post-medieval in the late Renaissance to early Enlightenment era(s).
I think that the whole prayers to Christ was more of a mockery of Catholic theology and really a kind of satire. Plus the fact that Catholicism was now viewed as quaint and out-dated, due to the late Renaissance-early Enlightenment mind.
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Specktacular- you're right on the whole egregore of Satan.
And in ceremonial magick the whole egregore was a medieval Satan, as such the grimoires would need to have prayers to Christ due to the grimoire Satan being an egregore of a medieval mind, despite the fact that the grimoires were often written post-medieval in the late Renaissance to early Enlightenment era(s).
I think that the whole prayers to Christ was more of a mockery of Catholic theology and really a kind of satire. Plus the fact that Catholicism was now viewed as quaint and out-dated, due to the late Renaissance-early Enlightenment mind.
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[QUOTE=jason] Is there an entity Satan who is opposed to one single God and are his demons constantly manipulating the minds of humans? What kinds of proof are you aware of?
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If there are god and Satan that it is god who is trying to manipulate the minds.
Thinks about it. The middle ages was the perfect god state for xtianity. That religion controlled everything without any competition. They controlled the minds of people
with fear of demons and hell and kept people in stupidity and ilnesses because it was "kind of sin" to take a bath too often The time when people were closest to xtian ideal of world was the darkest time in human history. Look at the area where jesus was supposedly born. Wars over there didn't stop for who knows how many years. If there is a problem on this world it's judeo-xtian god or at least belief in him.
xtians will probbaly say that the problem is Satan and not actually the allpowerful god
Well if he is allpowerful why doesn't he fix it?
One xtian said that Satan's greatest deception is to assure people that he doesn't exist.
And so the xtians keep spinning people's minds in circle. Just when you lay out the FACTS proving that xtianity is not what it is trying to show itself as, some rat comes around and
breks out the "Satan only wants you to believe that he doesn't exist" thing.
And so the little sheep minds are once again manipulated away from facts with a single unprovable (as usual) xtian claim.
So - who is the real manipulator?
[QUOTE=jason] Is there an entity Satan who is opposed to one single God and are his demons constantly manipulating the minds of humans? What kinds of proof are you aware of?
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If there are god and Satan that it is god who is trying to manipulate the minds.
Thinks about it. The middle ages was the perfect god state for xtianity. That religion controlled everything without any competition. They controlled the minds of people
with fear of demons and hell and kept people in stupidity and ilnesses because it was "kind of sin" to take a bath too often
The time when people were closest to xtian ideal of world was the darkest time in human history. Look at the area where jesus was supposedly born. Wars over there didn't stop for who knows how many years. If there is a problem on this world it's judeo-xtian god or at least belief in him.xtians will probbaly say that the problem is Satan and not actually the allpowerful god
Well if he is allpowerful why doesn't he fix it?
One xtian said that Satan's greatest deception is to assure people that he doesn't exist.
And so the xtians keep spinning people's minds in circle. Just when you lay out the FACTS proving that xtianity is not what it is trying to show itself as, some rat comes around and
breks out the "Satan only wants you to believe that he doesn't exist" thing.
And so the little sheep minds are once again manipulated away from facts with a single unprovable (as usual) xtian claim.
So - who is the real manipulator?
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Original post: Banshee
i have to agree with you gremlin.
If there are god and Satan that it is god who is trying to manipulate the minds.
Thinks about it. The middle ages was the perfect god state for xtianity. That religion controlled everything without any competition. They controlled the minds of people
with fear of demons and hell and kept people in stupidity and ilnesses because it was "kind of sin" to take a bath too often The time when people were closest to xtian ideal of world was the darkest time in human history. Look at the area where jesus was supposedly born. Wars over there didn't stop for who knows how many years. If there is a problem on this world it's judeo-xtian god or at least belief in him.
xtians will probbaly say that the problem is Satan and not actually the allpowerful god
Well if he is allpowerful why doesn't he fix it?
One xtian said that Satan's greatest deception is to assure people that he doesn't exist.
And so the xtians keep spinning people's minds in circle. Just when you lay out the FACTS proving that xtianity is not what it is trying to show itself as, some rat comes around and
breks out the "Satan only wants you to believe that he doesn't exist" thing.
And so the little sheep minds are once again manipulated away from facts with a single unprovable (as usual) xtian claim.
So - who is the real manipulator?
i have to agree with you gremlin.