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Hereditary Psychosoma?

Like a painkiller for the Soul,carried down through the bloodline.Interesting.



You know that Biblical quote....

Deuteronomy 5:9-10 (King James Version)

[9]Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
[10]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

I am in way suggesting this applies to you,but this part of your post made me think of it:

"I believe the snag comes in pleasing my Father who seems to me like the biggest culprit (although my respect for him becomes more parimount as I age, he doesn't seem to be as spiritual.... (can I not see how spiritual he really is?))"



The greatest curse of all is the self fulfilling prophecy and it seems that you may be in danger of this,if this is how your father came to his own illness.It may be deeply buried within your psyche.If you observe an illness from childhood,along with the information that this is hereditary,it could possibly set up an expectation,which may result in psychosomatic manifestation.It's possible.

This means it can be worked out,certainly.You can break the chain.

However a weak knee is a weak knee and that should be treated medically,as it may be a real condition,hereditary or congenital.That's the safety advice,it's gotta go in here too,lol,but seriously.

I found a couple of articles,these are mainly about the psychological aspects of psychosoma,but they discuss personality types and hereditary factors,they might be useful,or not,but I'm posting 'em anyhow,in case someone else might find them interesting too.

Let me know what you think,I could be barking up the wrong tree,but I 'm trying to stay as paradigm neutral as possible here.My own personal belifs do not involve Karma/Karmic debt,though I am familiar with this concept.For me,body,mind and soul intertwine so much,that they cannot help but cross affect each other,at times and goodness knows,lol,but I also understand that families and familial expectations and woes affect us greatly at many times in our lives too.




http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 49,00.html

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"...However, while it is necessary to identify if an illness has a physical basis, it is recognized more and more that the effort to identify disorders as purely physical or mixed psychosomatic is increasingly obsolete as almost all physical illness have mental factors that determine their onset, presentation, maintenance, susceptibility to treatment, and resolution. Addressing such factors is the remit of the applied field of behavioral medicine. In modern society, psychosomatic aspects of illness are often attributed to stress [9] making the remediation of stress one important factor in the development, treatment, and prevention of psychosomatic illness....."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosomatic_medicine

On a more informal note;

I do believe that manifestations of physical illness can mask deeply ingrained psycho-spiritual issues and that such can be inherited and predisposed towards in families.We heal best when we are relaxed and able to rest easy.That dosen't happen in stressful or dysfunctional familial environments.

We pattern on those who are around us most,growing up and it's impossible not to be influenced by other family members,whether positivly or negatively,to some extent.
Some folk are left traumatised by their childhoods,but family can also impact negatively on the developing psyche in so called 'idyllic' environments too.

I think it's something that can be worked on and worked out,with due consideration and caution,of course..

In my own childhood,I observed patterns in my own family behaviour and the archetypal roles taken on by certain members.The group dynamics played out the same,it seemed down through the generations.I didn't want to play a part like that,so I escaped as soon as I could.
Now I'm matriarch of my own dynasty,lol.Ironic,as that is.I'm joking here,but it's a serious point,underneath.

hmmm, i'm not sure i understand the situation clearly. so i'll just ramble a few related thoughts off and let you figure out how/whether they apply...

Myself, I have found that I am quite capable of absorbing/mirroring the injuries of others around me. The closer and more frequent the contact with the person, the more likely I am to develop their injury. This, I believe, is because I come by spiritual connections and 'entrainment' quite instinctively, without even any willful intent. I have seen this go so far as to manifest injuries which fall well outside of anything which could be created by psychosomatic means. One of the early uses I had for shielding, was to diminish my connections to people suffering injuries, so as to not manifest them myself. I should point out that my mirroring others' injuries never in any way helped the other person, just doubled the number of people injured. So i consider it to be a negative and unwanted trait. Related to this, is perhaps worth mentioning that when this issue was the most severe, I was an unconscious psi vamp, and definitely sponged a lot of energy from others. I suspect this was related. I currently find myself in a somewhat opposite energy situation, and find myself much more able to assert a "wellness" influence on others, rather than being influenced/mirroring others. This is perhaps one form of influence on others which I don't think has any ethical complexities.

Also, i'll point out that depression, physical frailty, and low personal energy, are all very related, and personally i would put energy at the causal end of the relationship. Basically, when you are low in energy, you will naturally sponge energy from your surroundings. In bad surroundings that can be unpleasant for you. This is a very natural process, much like air pressure seeking equilibrium, and shouldn't be overtly associated with more overt forms of energy mooching. when low on energy, you will tend to have heightened empathy, as you're very absorbent. This can result in uncontrolled/excessive empathy, shyness, social anxiety, particular awareness or discomfort with touching or personal space perimeters, etc. Low energy results in lethargy, difficulty focusing, physical weakness, physical frailty, weak immune system, even dizziness, nausea, passing out, etc. and certainly, it can cause depression... and simultaneously be caused by depression. Actually depression and low spiritual energy levels can be a vicious cycle of each causing the other back & forth.

Painkillers... there are only 2 'valid' uses for them.
1) to sleep, when it is otherwise impossible to get any sleep, and sleep deprivation is looming as a real problem.
2) to allow tight knotted muscles to release their tension, so that they can heal, instead of continuing to strain themselves. (usually this involves a pinched nerve)
There is no reason to take painkillers just for 'comfort'. Comfort is just something that you're used to. The sooner you get comfortable with any body pain you have, instead of running from it with pills, the sooner it becomes a distant background problem and stops being a central focus for your mind & life. Taking painkillers is like taking off a new watch all the time because it feels awkward. If you don't just leave well enough alone, then it will never fade into an unnoticeable sensation. I don't say this "cheaply" without having earned the words (and then some). Ultimately, pain is a problem for the body, and the body is just a clunky bit of flesh which we're for better or worse tethered to. If the body is being a b*tch, just ignore it.

I myself am not physically capable of standing for more than a few hours. If i do, my sciatic nerve gets pinched rather severely, and standing is no longer physically possible... in that leg anyway, i can always suffer through by putting all my weight on the other leg, but eventually that becomes quite difficult. Ultimately, I stop standing when it is no longer possible to stand. But I don't run to the comfort of pills afterwards. and taking pills wouldn't let me stand any longer, they would just make it more comfortable to stand until i can't stand. At the end of the day, by not taking pills, and ignoring the body's protests until it no longer works, I devote much less thought & energy to my infirmities than most people would. You get used to it, and what was once sharp pains become dull background sensations... IF you face them, and don't seek out 'comfort' instead. Of course, I am told that I WILL need both a hip and knee replacement, probably within a decade. My attitudes may not be the best for making that happen later rather than sooner. But I'm not existing within a reality of being 'crippled', and my general health is excellent for someone in my position. And I don't really think I'll be getting replaced joints sooner than someone else with my injuries, as I suspect most people would decide their joints are intolerably uncomfortable long before I would. Anyway, my point is, I haven't taken so much as an asprin in the past month or so. I thought about it the other day, because i've been fighting a flu all week, and if i get too high of a fever, I might need an analgesic in order to be effective at work. But really the flu is losing badly, so i didn't bother.
All of which is meant to be inspirational, and a sort of example of an alternative approach to pain and other physical discomforts, and isn't meant to be bragging, which would be pointless, or even insulting. I'm just sharing my outlook, which is rather steeled and indomitable (by design, not by chance).

I wasn't clear on the how/why you felt like you were being attacked? that part seemed kinda vague?
if something's trying to cripple you physically, then if i were you, i'd skip diplomacy, skip intimidation, declare world war III on it, absolutely destroy it, by any and every possible means, "all other priorities rescinded"
entities are quite hardy & resilient, there is no 'halfway' defeating one... sure most might leave if roughed up, but they are holographic in nature, they have an uncanny ability to bounce back if you aren't ridiculously thorough in dismembering the essence of it's being down to absolute zero. If it's something posing such a serious threat to you, make it stop existing, completely, totally, utterly. Or make an example out of it, and do something 'worse' than destroy it. but really that's kinda dark, though it would get you 'street cred', i dunno if you'd wanna go that route.

of course many in the occult feel that this is not possible, so i'm sure they'd suggest a binding or a guardian or something along those lines. that'd be easier, and could work fine. so could diplomacy technically, that's always my first choice... except when something's trying to cripple me that is.

You can do a bi-locating 'split' projection to go both out of body, and remain in body, to do anything you need to do out of body. it's like a less immersed/less deep form of astral projection, perhaps more akin to remote viewing.

I did this twice to help some friends that were under astral attack from a girl that was powerful enough to possess the physical body of another, with her astral form. I went into meditation, found the energy stream and took it back to this girl, who I managed to make very physically sick in order to mess up her concentration and end the attack. I pretty much strangled her and channeled agonizing pain into her body, and saw her collapse and puke. The attack ended.

As far as your cheek though, I would imagine that something bit you, either on the astral, or one of the offender's guardians/servitors did as you tried to gather info on them.

Flea or a mosquito?

I think that if some entity manages to get trough your circle while you are traveling around with your mind you should really consider revising your banishing ritual and write or enforce your circle because if this entity was a guard spirit of some magician you bothered it could tell him how to get in again and maybe he could cast something offensive against you. the only thing that you are sure of is that your defence has a hole so if you want to wander safely into the chaos world leaving your body behind for a while you have to put more sigils and controls if you want to have a body where to come back when you are done, I'm quite new to chaos magic so I don't feel like I can give you advices for enforcing your guard but since now I never had problems regerding defence. having a familiar helps you with security. try this method for finding your weak spot. call for your familiar while the object he is binded in is out of the circle and keep your guard fully up. if he manages to get inside the circle you'll just have to ask him how did he get in. then just modify the relation between your circle and your banishing ritual to that specific part of the mistic plane. and I suggest you to add something in your circle that can tell your subconscious if something is trying to get in so that you can come back in your body if some random entity or magician tries to force himself inside.