schizophrenia vs possible possession

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Have you engaged in any magickal workings or rituals prior to or around the start of these disturbances?

Yes, for fun, not taking it seriously.

How is your health otherwise?

Strong right now. I am currently juicing and have always been a really happy/active person. I don't exercise as much only because of work, but I plan on changing that soon when I am a bit caught up.

Are you having any major life issues or problems going on, atm?

Yes. I am a small business owner and am trying to get my business more profitable and trying to better myself by learning a difficult skill set involving engineering.

I asked about sleep as your symptom list is conversant with certain sleep disorders. This is sometimes something which ramps up when exposed to particular magickal practices, though I don't want to speculate on that without further information.

Yes, my sleep patterns have changed drastically from before. I feel I don't need sleep.

Have you heard of ASMR?

No but I looked it up and definitely have this. To give you more information. I hear whispers and tingling all the time. The whispering feels foreign, like its someone else not coming from my brain, and is attached to me physically with more of whispering things wrapping themselves around me? They all feel different to me. I constantly unwrap them, although I am sure that makes no sense. At first, I thought it was physical sensation, but it isn't. It feels like I am doing it in a thin layer around me like the magnetosphere that protects planet earth from the suns ray is what I imagine. Over time I have become better at it and whenever I 'pop them up' (I visualize a oyster that I pop open and gather all my happiness to pry them open, where the oyster is struggling to clomp down on me?" I physically feel much better after this dance, where the pressure that I am feeling in my head and body goes away until they come right back. This is why, with the timing of events, I feel it isn't in my head but some act of paranormal that I don't understand. If it isn't paranormal, then I need to retrain my brain to stop this. Before I started doing the prying, it was much worse where I couldn't sleep at all, couldn't distinguish my own thoughts, exc..

A yes or no answer is fine here, details not necessary, but have you experienced any traumatic situations or injuries in the past or recently?

Yes. Another reason why I am a bit afraid. I was involved in a accident where I was in a lot of pain involving my neck and was worried for my life. After this surreal experience like I was close to death, I felt something enter me like a coldness. I don't know how to explain it better than that. The timing of this event with my current symptoms is why I am tricking myself into believing it is a paranormal event. It was a string of unfortunate events that is causing my delusions.

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When did you first experience sleep paralysis?

Hard for me to tell you because I don't know what would construe as sleep paralysis.

When was the first time you got attacked, some time in the last 7 years you had something happen what was it if you do not mind sharing?

Many things tbh, you would have to be more specific.

Honestly cannot tell you. It might have been in the past, but is is clearly evident now and is extremely strong. When I hurt myself, it took on a whole new level.

Tell me about your voices, do you think of them as telepathy or do you only hear them in your mind.
Both.
Tends to pick some concept in my head that I am thinking about and takes that form. The voice and image constantly change and is associated with random people/stories/experiences from my memory. I have no idea how many voices are in total, but there is a main one that whispers to me that I try my best to ignore.

Do you ever hear voices during meditation if they allow it?
Hard to meditate now. I constantly feel my body shaking and it makes me feel very nervous. My only meditation now is doing a visualization ritual of prying oysters that I imagined for myself.

How many voices do you hear, can you separate them?
Many. And only by doing my oyster prying meditation visual act that provides me relief for up to a few hours.

The reason for the questions is to see if the shadow will move to me on it's own so try to think about your answers and we will talk more. If the shadow remains over the next few days you can tell me and I will remove it by other means.

I feel very stupid by doing this, but I said outloud and in my head, "please go to powessy, he/she welcomes you" and the response was, "your an idiot."

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johnathanrs wrote:When did you first experience sleep paralysis?

Hard for me to tell you because I don't know what would construe as sleep paralysis.

When was the first time you got attacked, some time in the last 7 years you had something happen what was it if you do not mind sharing?

Many things tbh, you would have to be more specific.

Honestly cannot tell you. It might have been in the past, but is is clearly evident now and is extremely strong. When I hurt myself, it took on a whole new level.

Tell me about your voices, do you think of them as telepathy or do you only hear them in your mind.
Both.
Tends to pick some concept in my head that I am thinking about and takes that form. The voice and image constantly change and is associated with random people/stories/experiences from my memory. I have no idea how many voices are in total, but there is a main one that whispers to me that I try my best to ignore.

Do you ever hear voices during meditation if they allow it?
Hard to meditate now. I constantly feel my body shaking and it makes me feel very nervous. My only meditation now is doing a visualization ritual of prying oysters that I imagined for myself.

How many voices do you hear, can you separate them?
Many. And only by doing my oyster prying meditation visual act that provides me relief for up to a few hours.

The reason for the questions is to see if the shadow will move to me on it's own so try to think about your answers and we will talk more. If the shadow remains over the next few days you can tell me and I will remove it by other means.

I feel very stupid by doing this, but I said outloud and in my head, "please go to powessy, he/she welcomes you" and the response was, "your an idiot."
Hello johnathanrs

Sleep paralysis is the feeling of being pulled from your body during sleep. The paralysis is a common effect from many people who experience the shadows.

The first time you got attacked was the first time you felt something different this must have been the accident then you described earlier in a previous post.

The voices can become anything in your mind you can imagine they are attached to you throuhg frontal thought genesis, basically they see your thoughts as you think them + some random triggered memories that go along with that memory. The main voice you hear is himself and he will be removed also with the Shadow even though he thinks this can not happen.

The number of voices tells me how many times you have been in the reincarnation cycle.

The soul is in two parts the higher mind and the lower mind, the voices you hear now are the voices of the lower mind. It is the higher mind that tells us how to become something again so these are the voices you do not hear. http://www.searchwithin.org/download/pr ... pirits.pdf this link may help you understand this better.

I know what you are going throuhg and have been doing this for over two years now.

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Spirits of evil and good enter into my soul and body, Walk with me down the path of limbo with good on my right and evil on my left walk with me into the light.

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Thank you for the advise powessy.

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I don't believe you are mad or possessed. You've had chronic sleep deprivation and this has crossed wires with ASMR producing the symptoms you described above.

Anxiety and 'psychosis' effects are common in chronic sleep debt situations. This is why it makes such a good torture method, one used extensively by military forces since tine immemorial.

Think about it people. this article is about new mothers, particularly, but it covers symptoms and effects of sleep deprivation and debt rather well, nonetheless...
Chronic sleep deprivation is not good for you. It leads to cognitive impairment, anger and irritability, anxiety, and even psychosis. Yes, you read that right. Chronic sleep deprivation is known to cause psychosis.

Read more at http://www.themotherish.com/torturing-n ... 0kXx5im.99
It takes a fair bit of time, but you need to figure out how to sleep well again and if you don't already, some form of meditative routine or exercise can help immensely, alongside regulation of activity patterns and so on.
“Until this point, researchers weren’t sure if sleep loss was simply a by-product of anxiety, or the other way around,” says Andrea Goldstein, Ph.D., lead author of the study. The new study indicates the latter—that not getting enough sleep can actually trigger anxiety.

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/la ... er-anxiety
Edited to add@ different source, same research.
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Nahemah wrote:I don't believe you are mad or possessed. You've had chronic sleep deprivation and this has crossed wires with ASMR producing the symptoms you described above.
With respect, I do disagree about being crazy. I agree with you on the possessed part. I don't feel that I am crazy, but I accept that I mad/crazy am under social norms. The truth is I do flip-flop on what this thing is that attached itself to me and I truly feel that something has, although I no longer trust my own senses so it is hard for me to say. Originally I argued with "it" believing that it was my prefontal cortex that had somehow gained its own consciousness and needed to merge with the rest of my brain again. (I know. [sadface] )

I feel that their is a esoteric flaw with human knowledge in that we see things through black and whites, ignoring the in-between that exists between the two colors. I believe in the in-between of possession and that is what I was fearful of, that seems to not be relevant or discussed in detail at least within workings that I have been reading online. Basically: Am I going crazy? Okay, let's go with i'm not. Is this another entity or is it a demon trying to deceive me? It must be a demon because I have seen a few instances of lies and all spirits must tell the truth?! Lies = negativity and thus it must be evil! Help!

However, I have recently, thanks to readings and these forums submitted myself to it (not resisting) and have had wonderful dreams about going through some weird tunnel and being shown suns and weird stuff like that I only even say this because these forums are based around the occult. Long story short, I am once again good now and thank everyone for their support. My relationship with my craziness is strong and I accept that part of me now. I realized that my fears stemmed from my own insecurity of being punished after my life because I was going against god (not the god of morality similar to religions that are based on good/evil but the god of order or true god to me) however; if I do/did something that is/was wrong in my life, then I now believe that I need/deserve to be punished. Cheaters never win. Punishment is a blessing of salvation in order to teach right and wrong lessons. Punishment can come in any form, from physical sensation, to words of vibration, exc... I don't fear pain, although I don't welcome it, I fear nothingness and disorder/chaos. To me, all forms of "angels/demons", "good/evil" must be kept in balance, and order must prevail over all. Without order, chaos would reign supreme. I understand that most are still battling with their own pathway through light and darkness, but to me, their is a higher belief that provides me the stability that I need. I have re-found my faith and my relationship with what I construe as god has never been stronger. [yay]

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