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RockDemon, my own thoughts are roughly this:

When Venus and Saturn come together, the aesthetic principles of Venus meet the focused structure of Saturn.

Potential and creativity, opportunities, but with a need for applied effort and focus.

Change and restructuring, leaving behind things that drain energy and stepping through new doorways as they open, so looking forward while using lessons learned in the recent past, to advance?

Change can be a process of conflict and resolution,thesis>antithesis>synthesis and all that, I certainly tend to learn the hard way, lol.

Very basic, slightly vague flaffing around the subject, yeh I know, but a thought, nonetheless.

Mem wrote:Well, most of it is wrong, however i will shed a little light. If what you say about Atziluth is true, then what if you draw a 3c? Does that mean that is is again Binah in Atziluth? Wrong. 3=Binah Fire (w)= Atziluth.

Thanks. I know that when I draw 3 of cups it does not mean Binah in Atziluth. Again, this is the aspect of scales of colors and worlds that I did not study much yet and do not comprehend as much to be able to give a clear answer.

Mem wrote:What card represents Leo, clearly you guys have never studied Qabalah. 3+12+7=22, i hope this is sufficiently simple. what are the 3, the 12, the 7? Basic im sure.

Yes, I just began studying it. And I am not sure what you mean by all these numbers. But in the book, that comes with the cards there is a chart and clearly Leo is associated with Strength there.

Mem wrote:Now why does every minor card have something similar to "Saturn in Leo?" I will give you a tip
The major principle of Saturn is= Limitation
The major energetic principle of Leo is= Will.
Hmm, hang on, The Lord of Strife, now if we have limitation, in conjuction with will, i can't imagine limited will to be anything less than "Strife". Lets add a few more principles,
Saturn=Limitation, Learning,discipline
Leo=Will,creativity,opportunity

Now, Learning+creativity, does that work? Do you learn to be creative? What about opportunity, and discipline. What about Limitation and creativity? As you can see, very basic.

While your way of thinking is interesting, but I think the question "Do you learn to be creative?" is very controversial. In the above-mentioned book, the 5 of wands is described in a different way.

But all in all, that is the first book that I have about astrology, qabalah, and Tarot. And I interpret it wrong maybe and all the information presented there is not necessarily correct. Thus, I thank you for sharing your ideas and knowledge.

Nahemah wrote:When Venus and Saturn come together, the aesthetic principles of Venus meet the focused structure of Saturn.

Potential and creativity, opportunities, but with a need for applied effort and focus.

Change and restructuring, leaving behind things that drain energy and stepping through new doorways as they open, so looking forward while using lessons learned in the recent past, to advance?

Yes. This is what I am doing exactly, or at least, I hope I am doing it that way.

Nahemah wrote:Change can be a process of conflict and resolution,thesis>antithesis>synthesis and all that, I certainly tend to learn the hard way, lol.

I empathize this.

Mem wrote: What card represents Leo, clearly you guys have never studied Qabalah. 3+12+7=22, i hope this is sufficiently simple. what are the 3, the 12, the 7? Basic im sure.

What system are you using? Because I had to double check with A.W Waites own books and it says leo = strength.

@Desecrated and everybody else

So today when I was doing my magick practices I draw a card to meditate upon and visualize. And yes THE LOVERS showed up.
Interestingly enough before drawing the card, when I started to meditate my subconscious began talking to me. With words and sentences. Before that, it was talking to me with symbols, dreams, and daydreams in a very clear way. 2 examples concerning the forums itself. Yesterday morning I've had a daydream that I am a moderator of this forum, then cyberdemon messaged me about being one. Another example is the song about planets' arrangement that I told Nahemah.
Another interesting thing to note as Nahemah posted Venus and Saturn are in conjunction today. THE LOVERS represent SATURN acting through GEMINI upon SOL. THE LOVERS are associated with the Hebrew letter Zayin. It's number is 7. Which also refers to VENUS.
The most notable immediate influence of all these on me.... remember the thread that I was talking how my subconscious attacked me? Now we are friends, maybe even lovers

RockDemon wrote:@Desecrated and everybody else

So today when I was doing my magick practices I draw a card to meditate upon and visualize. And yes THE LOVERS showed up.

To bad I don't know what I'm talking about, otherwise I would be gloating now because I predicted that.

I know you don't want to hear this, but spring is just around the corner. And I don't think it's just an "occult" meaning. I think it's time to get down and dirty in the mundane world of dating.

RockDemon wrote:yesterday morning I've had a daydream that I am a moderator of this forum, then cyberdemon messaged me about being one

hello i have been summoned

I leave plenty of hints of my plans everywhere so it works like foreshadowing. Leaves imprints, makes people suggestible. No I'm not evil. I like playing video games.

Anyway now that I'm actually here I guess I should chip in. I love my tarot deck, I've ended up with a basic idea of the storyline of the rest of my life AND a next life from one super intense full deck drawing. It's funny but that puts me in a position to be absolutely crazy and make a prediction that the "end of the world" event will occur sometime within the next 299 years.

Secondly.. Venus and Saturn doing the diddly doo dirty?!

There's a term in astronomy I think you guys will love. When two skylights overlap each other in the night sky, it's called an occult, occulting or occultation. So... with Lady Vee and Satan's Urn doing the diddly doo, I just gotta ask. Any information if they'll be occulting each other?

Because if they do, that's the perfectmost time to drop the bass any ceremonial or chaotic or ritual or literally any magick spell invoking their star powers.. just saying.

Desecrated wrote:I know you don't want to hear this, but spring is just around the corner. And I don't think it's just an "occult" meaning. I think it's time to get down and dirty in the mundane world of dating.

hahaha [lol] I have a girlfriend and we do not have problems with sex And I think men has an easier way to check whether they want to get dirty or not rather than tarot.

cyberdemon wrote:I leave plenty of hints of my plans everywhere so it works like foreshadowing. Leaves imprints, makes people suggestible. No I'm not evil. I like playing video games.

You should teach me this!!!!

cyberdemon wrote:Anyway now that I'm actually here I guess I should chip in. I love my tarot deck, I've ended up with a basic idea of the storyline of the rest of my life AND a next life from one super intense full deck drawing. It's funny but that puts me in a position to be absolutely crazy and make a prediction that the "end of the world" event will occur sometime within the next 299 years.

Too bad, I was secretly hoping it is going to happen in this lifetime.

cyberdemon wrote:There's a term in astronomy I think you guys will love. When two skylights overlap each other in the night sky, it's called an occult, occulting or occultation. So... with Lady Vee and Satan's Urn doing the diddly doo, I just gotta ask. Any information if they'll be occulting each other?

Because if they do, that's the perfectmost time to drop the bass any ceremonial or chaotic or ritual or literally any magick spell invoking their star powers.. just saying.

Finally some real fun in the occult [greensmile]

But why drop?
Wouldn't it better to find a partner then invoke each, and then you know, diddly doo

You know how I changed my avatar before I became admin and it was a blue version of the red Flandre Scarlet? Hehehehe.

Honestly I was hoping too, but y'know, these things take time.

Oh definitely. When I said drop I did mean it like "drop a tune" not drop it off the face of the earth.. But yeah if you have the opportunity to do a spell of that level please do so!

There are no occultations involving Saturn this year, but Venus and other planets do:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/ ... lanets.htm

A lot more info:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/iotandx.htm

Nahemah wrote:There are no occultations involving Saturn this year, but Venus and other planets do:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/ ... lanets.htm

A lot more info:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/iotandx.htm

cyberdemon wrote:Oh definitely. When I said drop I did mean it like "drop a tune" not drop it off the face of the earth.. But yeah if you have the opportunity to do a spell of that level please do so!

Thank you both very much. These give me very interesting ideas that I would like to consider and raises some questions. I'll need to think about this. Then I'll create a separate topic.