Original post: ChaosTech
Speck, I'm too busy to read this whole topic now, but your original post in your assumption that there is no such thing as nothingness, emptiness, etc, just flawed, i.e. ignorant perception which makes certain things appear this way is accurate in my book. Define nothing, and you have missed it. It can't be defined, it can't even be thought of. It doesn't exist, so how could it be described, or even comprehended at all in the first place?
All that exists is an infinate multiverse of everythingness. Even in quantom mechanics this has been speculated upon, by the idea of an infinate amount of parallel realities, and that time, meaning change, like consciousness, is just a process of things moving from one reality to another, which is why it makes the appearance of things loosing pieces of what constitutes themselves or gaining.
There is an ancient chinese saying that "if you can think it, it must exist, somewhere that is."
People speak of some idea of Tao, God, ect, that which is "above," and yet, "within," aka is, all things, but they in their ignorance of dualistic thinking, think this Tao, God, etc is somehow seperable from the parts which make it so. We are all things, what makes up a thing is either a pure concept, or a combination of attibutes (things, concepts, like we are).
God, Tao, ect, is the only "nothing," as it's not just the parts themselves (things, finate), but the sum of all parts (everything, infinate). Everything that ever was, ever is, ever will be, and never was, never is, and never will be (speaking in terms of this reality (universe of the multiverse)), exists, has always existed and will always exist. The question is not if something exists, but if it exists within any given universe.
The things that constitute what makes up this universe, change at any given moment. On the subatomic scale, things, whether wave or particle, or some other form of energy, literally pop in and out of existence. Existence meaning this universe. Negatives collapse upon themselves. Thinking in negatives has it's uses as we are all concerned with the reality we are apart of at any given moment, being as we are a part of it, though truthfully there is no loss, destruction, or any other negative thing, just or ignorant false perceptions of multiverse change and so really our consciousness moving through one reality (universe) into another.
There literally is an infinate amount of ChaosTech's or Specktacular's, etc. What constitutes myself, or yourself, or anything at any given moment, is the things that make up it. For instance the ChaosTech right now, doesn't exist anymore in this reality, only the ChaosTech right now, and now he's gone again to be replaced by the one typing this line now. :lol:
But ChaosTech, in all his plethora of ever changing forms, exists and forver will, in one reality or another. Though, if I don't watch my Karma (results of my actions, reactions, and non actions, i.e. the process of my infinate becomming), what constitutes this hive consciousness who call himself ChaosTech (me), I might end up as a rock, which will take a very long while, in all probability again, until I regain a form capable of letting my Kia (spirit) become aware of itself again.
See just like God, Tao, ect, what is truly us, is not just the thoughts, memories, personality, egos, bodies (aka forms, as in physical and etheric (aka all energetic)) etc, that constitutes our being, but the sum of all the parts (kia, spirit, consciousness, will, perception (these last three only exist within a being of Kia that has parts which allow the kia to be aware of itself) etc).
The biggest flaw of many is to view "the source," as a thing, meaning something which can even be grapsed by the mind, logically or emotionally (illogically*), or felt by the senses. This "non-existent" source, is nothing, that is not a thing at all, but everything, literally everything. Not some "sea of cosmic energy," and so viewed like a pool of glowing water in which things, i.e. forms, spring into and out of existence. One minute existing, and the next not. This is flawed logic. Something can indeed come from nothing, because nothing is everything and everything is nothing. Spirit is form and form is spirit, to seperate either, is impossible. Things only go poof from any given existence, only to "reappear," in another. Negatives are lies, as the monists say there is only one. The road that leads to all leads to one, and the road that leads to one leads to all. It's the infinate loop, symbolised by the symbol 8 turned sideways.
Atleast this is the only thing which makes sense to me out of all the beliefs, religions, dogma, scientific crap (meaning purely empirical explainations), etc, that are out there to me. And best of all, I have yet to have anyone find a hole in it, i.e. come even close to finding any error in it to show it's even partially wrong. Of course like PC's HD6 theory, it's less empirical (testable) and more mathematical, and so logical yes, but provable or disprovable no. The interesting thing about it is that it isn't new at all, but if you carefully look, is a teaching which exists in virtually every human culture, though esoteric in nature, as it is hard to grasp by most. Hell, even primitive shamans knew this, that's why they drew so many spirals all over the place. As when one reaches the point in the middle of the spiral, (goes in an inward spiral), one is spewed back again in an outward spiral.
And the most awesome thing about the realization of infinity is that there is no limits of becomming. No limits to what you can (eventually, without enough kia, i.e. will/perception), become. Infinate expansion of consciousness. You can eventually become something so vast, it's beyond a human being's comprehension. So, why ever buy into lies? Why ever harm anything, unless there is no other option in order to surive (maintain what constitutes you), including yourself? We are all God, i.e. everythingness/nothingness, unlimited potential, at the core. We are all truly one. Do unto others as you would have done to yourself, as with ever action or non action you choose, your Karma (being, amount of expressed Kia), is either shrunken or expanded. To shink is the path of the lie, i.e. maya. As there, like in quantom physics, is a zero-point, for your consciousness. In other words, you can devolve to the point of a singular thing, but never any further. Why go backwards, when this is the path of lies, of limits, of ignorance of Infinity?
Liberation to all, we have all made it this far (into human beings), may we become true Gods, and beyond. There is no end, as there was never a beginning. Maybe we once were Gods, and somehow messed up, driving us into more and more limited forms, or maybe we are fragments of the Kia of some great diety which somehow shrunk itself back into it's composite pieces. Or maybe we've never been conscious to this degree, being pure eletrrons, or quarks, or something even lesser, which through randomness (Chaos), were blessed with ever increasing complex forms, which finally allowed for our Kia to go, "woah, I'm a thing and I know it." Whatever was the process for how we ended up being the hive energetic beings, in atomic bodies, called humans, we're conscious now, we have facilities to take us to even greater heights, so why not use them? But of course, before one begins actively chaning ones consciousness, let alone the bodies and minds which allow for it, it's wise to first understand the whys, hows, and whats of our present incarnations, else risk contraction, not expansion. This is why the first task to to know thy self, not merely in some shallow understanding of "this is who I am, and what I want," but fully understanding atleast a basic notions of how, why, and what, we do as individuals and as a species the things we do. Self mastery, is the first step towards aware (percieved and willed) expansive transformation, i.e. what many call transcendence.
Anyway, as always just my 2 cents.
Peace,
-CT
