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Original post: Aurum

I've heard of the three circles thing, of Atlantis once appearing as like a 'target'. That's very interesting.

Original post: LordArithon

Yeah the drawings I seen of it made the capital city look like a target, or if it was a city just the city itself.

I believe it was real. Personally, I'm with Edgar Cayce on it being off the coast of Florida.

When Plato talks about that story of how Atlantis was created, he mentions that there were two springs created. I think it was one hot and one cold. .....well, my notes and copy of Timius and Critius is on my other computer, but.....in any event, there's this fountain in Bimini Island somewhere that is supposed to have healing waters and people to this day go there for that reason and this one famous explorer guy (who's name I ofcourse don't remember) went to Bimini in search for the Fountain of Youth. It just seemed to me that the fountain with the healing waters was one of the fountains that Plato mentioned and the other is the Fountain of Youth. I kind of wonder if the Fountain of Youth was hidden from us deliberately, perhaps after we had our lifespans shortened.

Hi all I am new to this forum. In the past i have experience people, even occultist, get very unpleasant about the subject of ET being here, in person. I have found your conversation most interesting.
I presume you have read the works of Eric Van Danikan.?

Much evidence now is gathering William Henry is another.

I feel it is important that we, the human race, excepts the narrative that ET was here till bout 5-10 thousand years ago.

Has anyone read, 'Civilization one'?

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Q789 wrote:Hi all I am new to this forum. In the past i have experience people, even occultist, get very unpleasant about the subject of ET being here, in person. I have found your conversation most interesting.
I presume you have read the works of Eric Van Danikan.?

Much evidence now is gathering William Henry is another.

I feel it is important that we, the human race, excepts the narrative that ET was here till bout 5-10 thousand years ago.

Has anyone read, 'Civilization one'?

Q

No, never read, Civilization One. What's it about?

I agree with you about ET's being here in person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... 8author%29

This book details some of the fantastic knowledge we had, as humans, over the past 20,00o years. Even before we could write we built Stonehedge(and more) with amazing astronomical and mathematical knowledge. At the time we used a 366 degree circle, then from Sumeria came some people that could write, they introduced a 360 degree circle and civilization as we know it began.

Christopher never offers any suggestion about how we gained such knowledge. However, we here know how they got it.

The story of the Dogons is another example.

anyway, back to Atlantis, i have no past life memories of it- that i know off. However, there is little doubt in my mind it existed. They had various space stations around our planet and at least one orbiting satellite that was inhabited.

I beleive that this ancient Dragon, Serpent was in fact -= a wormhole. Explains how they got here.

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Q789 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... 8author%29


anyway, back to Atlantis, i have no past life memories of it- that i know off. However, there is little doubt in my mind it existed. They had various space stations around our planet and at least one orbiting satellite that was inhabited.

I beleive that this ancient Dragon, Serpent was in fact -= a wormhole. Explains how they got here.

Q

My 6th grade teacher told us once that when she was younger she and some friends of hers went to a psychic fair. I don't think they really believed in that sort of thing, but they wanted to check it out. Well, at some point this woman walks up to them and tells my teacher 3 of her past lives, and one of them was from Atlantis. She said she could see water rising up around her. She still wasn't sure if she believed in past lives (when she was telling us this story), but there were things that were making her question her disbelief. And she is really terrified of water, too. REALLY terrified. She told us that one time she was hiking with some friends and she fell in like....2 inches of water, but didn't realize how little water it was, she just knew she was in water and she started freaking out and thinking she was going to drown.

...I think I'm going to like talking to you, Q [happy2]

I don't know much about Atlantis, however, the theory is quite feasible. I am sure of several space stations, an orbiting satalite(Ras Chariot), several matings with mankind and many more activities- why shouldn't Atlantis be another. It is feasible that rising water tides swallowed it up.- but it would take time.

Could it be that the lady at the fair was just BSing you? just to sound good?- just to get you to buy her service? Seems a bit coincidental that the lady was also afraid of water tho. I am very skeptical and sinical, about people who show off. It may have also been the ladys recent life drowning- seems more realistic. Though, once again, the flood may have swallowed Atlantis- trouble is it would have reappeared.
To be honest i havn't worked much with Atlantis- havn't read much.

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Q789 wrote:I don't know much about Atlantis, however, the theory is quite feasible. I am sure of several space stations, an orbiting satalite(Ras Chariot), several matings with mankind and many more activities- why shouldn't Atlantis be another. It is feasible that rising water tides swallowed it up.- but it would take time.

Could it be that the lady at the fair was just BSing you? just to sound good?- just to get you to buy her service? Seems a bit coincidental that the lady was also afraid of water tho. I am very skeptical and sinical, about people who show off. It may have also been the ladys recent life drowning- seems more realistic. Though, once again, the flood may have swallowed Atlantis- trouble is it would have reappeared.
To be honest i havn't worked much with Atlantis- havn't read much.

Q

It wasn't me, it was my 6th grade teacher. But, I don't think the lady was BSing her, though. She also said that she had been some Indian that fell off the side of a mountain and broke his neck and died. She noted that when she's driving on mountain roads, she gets really apprehensive about getting too close to the edge of the road.

If you look at Bimini Road (around Bimini Island in the Bahamas, which is where Atlantis is believed to be) it is 20 ft. down. And the bit of land that used to connect Russia to North America before the water level rose,....I think that is 20 ft. as well. So, unless my thinking is wrong here, it sounds like there was a time in the past when the water level in the ocean was 20 ft. less than it is today and since Bimini Road is 20 ft. down, that seems to indicate that Atlantis was built before the sea level increased. If that's so, than whatever caused the flood created a permanent rise in sea level.

WOW great to read an intelligent theory. Good research.
I have had friends who have made contact with Atlantian Giants.

I will tell you of a past life of mine. this is very sensitive. I was with a group of Reptilians. There was lights everywhere. The male was rising up from the ground. I think there was water everywhere. Others where there. The atmosphere shook violently and i mean violently. It is obvious they where ripping a hole to another dimension, these people where using the hole to travel, they knew what they where doing. I can feel the edge of the doorway under my feet still today. I have always intuited this memory was Sumerian. This memory is frightening and is responsible for many characteristics i have today- in this life. In fact it is probably why i practice typhonian magick. And i obviously the reason why i started the other thread.

That reminds me of my friends communication which btw was about 30 years ago. In Atlantis they knew how to drop a drop of water on a brass sphere and make energy- well thats what the story is anyhow. Oh and she met a giant there to.

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Q789 wrote:WOW great to read an intelligent theory. Good research.
I have had friends who have made contact with Atlantian Giants.

I will tell you of a past life of mine. this is very sensitive. I was with a group of Reptilians. There was lights everywhere. The male was rising up from the ground. I think there was water everywhere. Others where there. The atmosphere shook violently and i mean violently. It is obvious they where ripping a hole to another dimension, these people where using the hole to travel, they knew what they where doing. I can feel the edge of the doorway under my feet still today. I have always intuited this memory was Sumerian. This memory is frightening and is responsible for many characteristics i have today- in this life. In fact it is probably why i practice typhonian magick. And i obviously the reason why i started the other thread.

That reminds me of my friends communication which btw was about 30 years ago. In Atlantis they knew how to drop a drop of water on a brass sphere and make energy- well thats what the story is anyhow. Oh and she met a giant there to.

Q

Thanks!

Huh....I don't have too many past life memories yet. And certainly none so solid as yours. I suppose I will in time. Do you remember much else about the Reptilians? I'm curious.

Contact? Like channeling, astral travel,....something like that? If I may ask?

Christohpher Knight in his book theorized that the book of Enoch was an ET story. I have read the book and it is about Enoch who witnesses 7 asteroids entering earths atmosphere, then he witnesses the tsunami destruction. Afterwhich he is taken to a stone structure of types which may have been similar to Stone Henge.

Q789 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe ... 8author%29

This book details some of the fantastic knowledge we had, as humans, over the past 20,00o years. Even before we could write we built Stonehedge(and more) with amazing astronomical and mathematical knowledge.

I beleive that this ancient Dragon, Serpent was in fact -= a wormhole. Explains how they got here.

Q

I heard that the Dragon Kings built Stonehenge. Or atleast started building it. It may have been finished by the Ancient Druids later on, though. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the Dragon Kings or not, so I hope you won't be offended when I point out to you that they weren't Human.

Well anyways, I am very nuub with Occult magic, but I have always been fascinated and attracted to greek culture, and only got into occultism due to a decade long urge to specialize in a very bad magik :p. From what I've assertained from various books that Ive read about the Greek Peoples origins, leads me to think that the Americas themselves are atlantis. I know that Almost all phisical evidence points to the Island of crete, (saw a 3d rendition with submerged parts of the island looking to have had irragation channels), or azores (an ancient greek tablet said to picture atlantis and its seal/crest) w/ the greek tablet of showing more of an archeapelago than a continent w/ bridges and cannels leading to center island/capital city, but the americas seems like the most likely place that the Sea People came from, though the azores are from the same direction.
Hmm, mid debate I might just concede to azores being the home of atlantis because it would explain the "white" gods that the Myans predicted. It is from the same direction that the Sea people sailed from (Spotted by the egyptians and setteled in the middle east (Jeru and Antioch area) and coastal Greece) and You guys can see the technological baffels from the stone hendge to the tomb of circle knowledge(dont remember official name, island of coast of france or england). I find it really beleiveable that at some point aleins interveined and did away with atlantis. From observed history, the "aleins" around our planet are in two groups apparently. I point to the air battle that happened over stockholm in the darkages (reported in ancient print and press as circles fighting crosses {easily fueselodges} and god is watching), and the Ranma might be describing the battle for atlantis, or advanced humanity. What if there were advanced CivilizationS in the past. It could tie up the biblical "bablyon whore" to the Ranma -> gods versus hanhumans which sky cities faught. An old iranian city has radiation which could be the resault of nuclear warfare, as they also have a clay pot turned into a battery. Though the 3 Volt wouldve been near useless, It couldve been made as a message for us to see. Trying to remember which tribe/culture of Native americans this belongs to, but there is a story of two brothers fighting, born of the same mother, I can't remember the resault, something to do with fire i beleive. The Mayans also only biult temples at locations with large vibrations, I saw someone use a tunong fork and have it change frequency under the pulpetish thing and as e walked up the stairs. Which would indicate a change in mass or energy, but conventional knowledge sudgests that altitude doesnt affect energy input, because well, the tuning fork was already going when it was changing as he was walking up the stairs, then on the ground and through the arch/pulpit thingy. Alas no more rambling 4 me, u guys/gals chime in.

Seeker. wrote:Well anyways, I am very nuub with Occult magic, but I have always been fascinated and attracted to greek culture, and only got into occultism due to a decade long urge to specialize in a very bad magik :p. From what I've assertained from various books that Ive read about the Greek Peoples origins, leads me to think that the Americas themselves are atlantis. I know that Almost all phisical evidence points to the Island of crete, (saw a 3d rendition with submerged parts of the island looking to have had irragation channels), or azores (an ancient greek tablet said to picture atlantis and its seal/crest) w/ the greek tablet of showing more of an archeapelago than a continent w/ bridges and cannels leading to center island/capital city, but the americas seems like the most likely place that the Sea People came from, though the azores are from the same direction.
Hmm, mid debate I might just concede to azores being the home of atlantis because it would explain the "white" gods that the Myans predicted. It is from the same direction that the Sea people sailed from (Spotted by the egyptians and setteled in the middle east (Jeru and Antioch area) and coastal Greece) and You guys can see the technological baffels from the stone hendge to the tomb of circle knowledge(dont remember official name, island of coast of france or england). I find it really beleiveable that at some point aleins interveined and did away with atlantis. From observed history, the "aleins" around our planet are in two groups apparently. I point to the air battle that happened over stockholm in the darkages (reported in ancient print and press as circles fighting crosses {easily fueselodges} and god is watching), and the Ranma might be describing the battle for atlantis, or advanced humanity. What if there were advanced CivilizationS in the past. It could tie up the biblical "bablyon whore" to the Ranma -> gods versus hanhumans which sky cities faught. An old iranian city has radiation which could be the resault of nuclear warfare, as they also have a clay pot turned into a battery. Though the 3 Volt wouldve been near useless, It couldve been made as a message for us to see. Trying to remember which tribe/culture of Native americans this belongs to, but there is a story of two brothers fighting, born of the same mother, I can't remember the resault, something to do with fire i beleive. The Mayans also only biult temples at locations with large vibrations, I saw someone use a tunong fork and have it change frequency under the pulpetish thing and as e walked up the stairs. Which would indicate a change in mass or energy, but conventional knowledge sudgests that altitude doesnt affect energy input, because well, the tuning fork was already going when it was changing as he was walking up the stairs, then on the ground and through the arch/pulpit thingy. Alas no more rambling 4 me, u guys/gals chime in.

I like your post. I'm for Atlantis being the Bahaman Islands and Florida, but in Plato's account of Atlantis, he says that there was a land in Greece (or atleast around it) that fought the Atlanteans and succumbed to the same fate that Atlantis did within a day of each other. I can't make any sense out of that part of the story (as these Greeks who were fighting them were only doing so, because supposedly, the Atlanteans were wanting to hold sway in more lands than they already had), considering the account says that the god who presided over Atlantis had decided to destroy it (or atleast kind of rough them up a bit), because of their behaviour (I think trying to get them to snap out of it). It just wouldn't make sense to destroy the other land, too. Unless, maybe the god who presided over Atlantis didn't decide to destroy his own city, but a rival god destroyed Atlantis and the Atlantean god destroyed the land that the rival presided over. *shrug* Who knows?

There, apparently, is in the Mediteranean a sunken....something or other, that has similar if not identical aspects to it as the submerged Atlantean stuff.

I'm going to have to look up that air battle! I've never heard of that before, but that sounds cool!

I've heard of the Ancient Egyptians having batteries before, but I never heard what it was used for. That, for me, is an item of curiousity. I mean, if they had batteries, they must have had electronics. But what were they? Nobody seems to talk about that. Surprisingly, they hardly ever even mention the batteries. You'd think they'd want to mention that a lot! *lol* unless maybe they don't know what they used the batteries for either so their embarrassed to bring it up.

Occultess. I can also remember the cooling towers, they stood tall. When i saw the cooling towers in the underground tunnels under Gympie road (Brisbane)- i instantly recognized them.I can also remember stepping onto something at the entrance to the wormhole. It was like when you have bare feet, and you stand on the aluminum door frame. I believe that we(as humans) where very genetically immature at the time. I can remember them talking to me, giving me things. There is also a mask we wore, a basic mask like the lone ranger, when ever i see it it reminds me of them. But it was square, steel, thick and fitted over our eyes and nose only. We where in a metal room- with cloaks of types.
This memory is very powerful, very frightening, the atmosphere shook so violently, it used alot of electricity. In this life i am a quadruple Pisces with a grand water trine
I have no idea where this happened

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Occultess wrote:There, apparently, is in the Mediteranean a sunken....something or other, that has similar if not identical aspects to it as the submerged Atlantean stuff.
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Well Your post got me thinking... The Mediteranean and Black Sea had a much shallower Coastline. In fact, you can find old fishing villages and the ancient coastline on the Sea floor. At about 2,500BC or a couple hundred years before that date, (If I remember correctly) The Land wall by Gibralter/Spain and Tangers/Morrocco was flooded from Atlantic waters. I am just so confound that the flood story of the wrolds cultures over, would be from a time that recent. I mean, a flood that reaches worldwide cultures would have to be either a) mass communication or b) A Global Catastrophy. In first Scenario, it seems really unlikely, because why would we start back over from scratch with wooden spears and fur hides. The Second scenario has time discrepencies. 8,000 BC was when people first Inhabited, and First Known as Athens in 3,000 BC with the Serpeant Headed King Kekropos(Note city was Kekropia but was *Greek* Nationality) . It may be Possible that Atlantis was an Island once owned by the Cypreans (they also were the first people to inhabit the Acropolis) and that the Flood of atlantis and Athens May have been the resault of the overflow from the Atlantic ocean as a resault of Glacial Melting. Of course, this doesnt Explain where Atlantis was... If it Was Azores, Like I thought it was then well, The Greeks would never have been able to tell if it happened the day after to them unless there were survivors. And even then, How would Greece wage war with them so far away, and I dont think triremes were suitable for open Ocean Travel. Its all confusing as any news presented just gives way to more uncertaintys...

Seeker. wrote:

Occultess wrote:There, apparently, is in the Mediteranean a sunken....something or other, that has similar if not identical aspects to it as the submerged Atlantean stuff.
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Well Your post got me thinking... The Mediteranean and Black Sea had a much shallower Coastline. In fact, you can find old fishing villages and the ancient coastline on the Sea floor. At about 2,500BC or a couple hundred years before that date, (If I remember correctly) The Land wall by Gibralter/Spain and Tangers/Morrocco was flooded from Atlantic waters. I am just so confound that the flood story of the wrolds cultures over, would be from a time that recent. I mean, a flood that reaches worldwide cultures would have to be either a) mass communication or b) A Global Catastrophy. In first Scenario, it seems really unlikely, because why would we start back over from scratch with wooden spears and fur hides. The Second scenario has time discrepencies. 8,000 BC was when people first Inhabited, and First Known as Athens in 3,000 BC with the Serpeant Headed King Kekropos(Note city was Kekropia but was *Greek* Nationality) . It may be Possible that Atlantis was an Island once owned by the Cypreans (they also were the first people to inhabit the Acropolis) and that the Flood of atlantis and Athens May have been the resault of the overflow from the Atlantic ocean as a resault of Glacial Melting. Of course, this doesnt Explain where Atlantis was... If it Was Azores, Like I thought it was then well, The Greeks would never have been able to tell if it happened the day after to them unless there were survivors. And even then, How would Greece wage war with them so far away, and I dont think triremes were suitable for open Ocean Travel. Its all confusing as any news presented just gives way to more uncertaintys...

Yeah, the more you learn the less you know. As for distance, if you go with the Continental Drift theory, the continents were closer back then than they are now. That may explain some of the "too far away" issues, but I can't say altogether because I still don't know exactly how far apart or close together they were....or where. When I was going through my major Atlantis studying phase, I even started trying to recreate Pangea just to figure some of the questions that arose from reading Plato's account. Like how they could both succumb to floods that submerge them, but none of the surrounding places were affected. And how the same things (or, maybe it was just close to the same things) could happen to them when there didn't seem to be any geological reason that it could happen that way.....given their placements in the world. After I fit them together, I was going to try to move them to where they would be when Atlantis was supposed to have ended. I never finished this project, though. But, yeah, the peculiarities make for some.....

I admit, I haven't read all of this thread, I was just curious as to whether Allen's Altiplano theory was familiar to anyone else?

Big Paul wrote:I admit, I haven't read all of this thread, I was just curious as to whether Allen's Altiplano theory was familiar to anyone else?

Not me. Sorry.

I read a book on Atlantis once by the Author Jean Prachan.
He believes that Atlantis was colonized by egyptian jews who sailed to the America.
Allegedly they were technologically very far advanced and atlantis was destroyed due to a nuclear explosion.
He also belevies that they somehow managed to build an underwater base and still live there today and the the bermuda triangle is the exact location of this base.
He links all the U.F.O sightings and disappearances to the atlantians who do not wish there base to be compromised.

Very fascinating book he also links some U.F.O sightings near nuclear power plants and during the cold war to the atlantians who wish to help us not make the same mistake they made.
Of course these are just wild theories that I personally deride to some degree.

I didn't read the whole post but I am pretty sure that at the center of the Bermuda triangle there is supposed to be an damaged old atlantean teleportation device seems to randomly teleport people in the area into different places and or dimensions. I remember hearing a story of an old world war 2 pilot flying straight into the Bermuda Triangle when a floating rod appeared next to his aircraft and he heard a "metallic" sounding voice on his radio telling him to turn around. This is just what I've heard and it makes sense to me. I also heard that the continent sunk due to missuse of some kind of technology they had that messed with the earths tectonic plates. I also heard that the continent should start rising again very slowly in the next decade or so. Atlanean technology was supposed to have been very advanced and different from our technology. The (real) crystal skulls were supposed to have been made by atlanteans. The skulls themselves are supposed to be infused with knowledge and information. They have been known to move by themselves. It's a shame people aren't allowed to touch them and see if they couldn't absorb some of that knowledge or possibly be healed or gain some kind of abilities. I am pretty sure the god of atlantis became very angry with them because they were using nuclear technology to mix different animals together into bizarre mutations, things like minitaurs, stuff like that. In the past they had also performed experiments with their technology that almost destroyed the planet. As for the location of Atlantis I'm pretty sure that it was very close to Greece.

I am of the opinion that the Lovecraftian 'city of R'ley' of in fact Atlantis.

I have had numerous experiences with this to support my theory.

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Atlantis and similar catastrophy myths are reminiscent of some disaster what happened in distant history. I would say it is archetypal fear that is imbeded in human collective consciousness.

What could cause that? We know for several incidents in (pre)history when the humans were in fact on the brinck of extinction. One of those is definitelly the one we call Toba super-eruption. What happened back then? It was sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago on what is today Sumatra, Indonesia. Probably the mountain exploded and eruption caused a brief, dramatic cooling or volcanic winter which lasted 6-10 years, and inflicted whole planet. Still, we can find a 15 cm thick layer of volcanic ashes all over southern Asia. All this resulted in so called bottleneck theory in human evolution, it is estimated that only some 1000 human individuals survived that disaster, and all of us living today are descendants of those survivors.

So, Atlantis, the great flood, mega drought and such cases are direct collective recollection of disastrous events etched in memory.

Perhaps Atlantis sinking was metaphorical? I will point to the creation story of Athens for my evidence. In Plato's account, Atlantis was at war with the greeks yes, but inevdably, the refugees of the Atlantis disaster make their home in Athens. This was how hitler drew German decent to Atlantis by the way. As the creation story had mentioned, there were two gods vying for the cities followers and both who gave them gifts. The two gods were obviously Athena and none other than Poseidon himself. I am thinking maybe Atlantis was the city of Athens before it was Athens. Perhaps the followers of Athena leveled the old city to rebuild it in her honor? This has happened before if you are familiar with Byzantium and Istanbul. The two gods fighting may have had the two clans of followers fighting eachother. Plato would no doubt have been searching for a reason for how Athena could have bested Poseidon as he is one of the big 3. This would have lead him to the traditional "I've angered the gods" response and metaphorically flooding the city would make for a great story. Wouldn't you say?