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Original post: EtuMalku

Centrix: that wasn't an alarm bell you heard, that was a wake up alarm!

Original post: Jenfucius

EtuMalku;357830 wrote:Vampirism has little to do with most of what was posted here, it is a condition of the soul. .

(no offence intended or anything)
Is there any cross cultural literature references for this? I have heard of vampire myths around the world but not in regards of it being a condition of the soul (as in psy vamps).
I would be interested in more research of this if I can find enough material to write something about it.

Original post: fraterfc93

[QUOTE=Jenfucius;358749]Is there any cross cultural literature references for this? I have heard of vampire myths around the world but not in regards of it being a condition of the soul (as in psy vamps).
I would be interested in more research of this if I can find enough material to write something about it.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure there is none. This reeks of otherkinism.

Original post: Centrix

Jenfucius;358749 wrote:(no offence intended or anything)
Is there any cross cultural literature references for this? I have heard of vampire myths around the world but not in regards of it being a condition of the soul (as in psy vamps).
I would be interested in more research of this if I can find enough material to write something about it.

Cross cultural literature isn't the real issue. Ontologically speaking, get him to define exactly what he means by the "soul." Additionally: where is it? How does it exist? How can we know if it exists? Why should it exist? Next, what does it mean when a soul has a condition? How is this measured? How can we produce certainty regarding these issues separating them from self-delusion?

Original post: EtuMalku

[QUOTE=Jenfucius;358749](no offence intended or anything)
Is there any cross cultural literature references for this? I have heard of vampire myths around the world but not in regards of it being a condition of the soul (as in psy vamps).
I would be interested in more research of this if I can find enough material to write something about it.[/QUOTE]
This concept can be found in the Asetian Bible, Theosophy books, Hermetic Qabalah and Egyptian texts, not to mention M.W. Ford's books.

Original post: Malamatiyya

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358777]This concept can be found in the Asetian Bible, Theosophy books, Hermetic Qabalah and Egyptian texts, not to mention M.W. Ford's books.[/QUOTE]

In which Egyptian texts can one find this described?

Original post: Venefica

I have not seen this concept in any ancient texts, not legends. The closest is the legends of dampiri, the offspring of vampires that often was said to have a non human soul, as well as to some extent the legends of changelings. Fay replacing human children, the changeling child looking human but having a fairy soul. Other then that the only place I have heard abut something similar is among otherkin, not that th otherkin movement is a bad thing.

Original post: EtuMalku

Coffin texts, Papyrus of Ani, Funeral texts
Most important the Book Nun

Original post: Venefica

I have read the Coffin Texts but not found a reference to what you speak of, could you clarify how you interpret the text to get the dogma you adhere to?

Original post: EtuMalku

It's late here, I will take this up later.

Original post: Venefica

It is early here, however I have not been to bet yet. Damned forum, keeps me up all night.

Original post: Jenfucius

Centrix;358772 wrote:Cross cultural literature isn't the real issue.

Well perhaps for you it isnt. No direspect intended. I can respect your view on this though.
For me it has enough significance in my opinion that shouldnt be totally ignore. (I'm trying to write an essay about it).

Original post: Jenfucius

Venefica;358921 wrote:I have not seen this concept in any ancient texts, not legends. The closest is the legends of dampiri, the offspring of vampires that often was said to have a non human soul, as well as to some extent the legends of changelings. Fay replacing human children, the changeling child looking human but having a fairy soul. Other then that the only place I have heard abut something similar is among otherkin, not that th otherkin movement is a bad thing.

So it doesnt seem to be a whole lot of info on it.

Its the first time I have heard of the term otherkin (as mention by fraterfc93)
It sorta reminds of people claiming to only look like humans but believe they are aliens.
Of course its a little different than "walk ins" who are higher beings who walk in into another person and replaces their soul for a higher purpose.

Original post: Venefica

I do not think I would like to have my soul replaced. I like the one I got. Walk ins by the way are not only higher beings, but can be any sort of Spirit, including an animal soul replacing or sharing a body with a human soul.

Original post: Jenfucius

Venefica;358934 wrote:It is early here, however I have not been to bet yet. Damned forum, keeps me up all night.

Vampire!!!

Original post: Aset-Ka

Vampires suck.

Original post: Venefica

It is early here, however I have not been to bet yet. Damned forum, keeps me up all night.

Vampire!!!

Yes I'm gonna suck your posts. Buahaha

Original post: hunterwitch_bloodpact

perhaps its not really being a vampire perhaps u have the traits of it in which is actually consider to be vampireism some of the symptoms are:

insomnia

energy thirst

life force thirst (which is a bad thing XD)

sensitivity to light

affinity to darkness

some negative emotions

and the list goes on and on i meen im no expert but logicaly u can say theres a thing like demonism,lycanism,etc,etc in which they differ from 1 thing to another its just who u are


now on the flip side the soul/spirit,etc,etc u make up what u are as u find connections from the spiritual side like your PLS (past life spirit/spirits) there u can find out who and what that make you up as 1 being some times its difficult and u need to find out things on your own most of the times it a ask and be told deal but regardless u make up who and what u will eventually become

Original post: Malamatiyya

[QUOTE=EtuMalku;358932]It's late here, I will take this up later.[/QUOTE]

Yes?

Do you have some exact references? I can't seem to find what you claim in these Egyptian texts you mentioned.

Original post: Venefica

The list of symptoms of vampirism do vary allot from group to group and from person to person that mention them. There is very little all practitioners can communally agree on.

Original post: EtuMalku

[QUOTE=hunterwitch_bloodpact;359646]perhaps its not really being a vampire perhaps u have the traits of it in which is actually consider to be vampireism some of the symptoms are:

insomnia?

energy thirst

life force thirst (which is a bad thing XD)?

sensitivity to light

affinity to darkness?

some negative emotions?

and the list goes on and on i meen im no expert but logicaly u can say theres a thing like demonism,lycanism,etc,etc in which they differ from 1 thing to another its just who u are


now on the flip side the soul/spirit,etc,etc u make up what u are as u find connections from the spiritual side like your PLS (past life spirit/spirits) there u can find out who and what that make you up as 1 being some times its difficult and u need to find out things on your own most of the times it a ask and be told deal but regardless u make up who and what u will eventually become[/QUOTE]

Where did you come up with this information?

Original post: hunterwitch_bloodpact

well if u think about it psychologically that's what some of the symptoms are that's if u cross reference it and such i meen yea there's no solid evidence on such things but honestly u could call it those on the physical side but it could also be something more dominant on the other u know what i meen

Original post: Venefica

I have also heard this information it is held as fact among very many pepole practicing vampirism. Where it come from I do not know, but I do know it is rather commonly held ideas.

Original post: Hellen

[QUOTE=Jenfucius;358749](no offence intended or anything)
Is there any cross cultural literature references for this? I have heard of vampire myths around the world but not in regards of it being a condition of the soul (as in psy vamps).
I would be interested in more research of this if I can find enough material to write something about it.[/QUOTE]

you maybe not found this term literally , but is it necessary ?
when you say vampire this 'name' is asociated too much with sucking blood, energy in people's mind, so let me ask you another 'name '
how is a fairy soul ? is it human ?

Original post: Jenfucius

Hellen;359873 wrote:you maybe not found this term literally , but is it necessary ?
when you say vampire this 'name' is asociated too much with sucking blood, energy in people's mind, so let me ask you another 'name '
how is a fairy soul ? is it human ?

Which term are you refering too "psy vamp" or "vampire"?

The word "vampire" is commonly used in the English language and is found in many English dictionaries.


The rest of the question I'm not sure what you are asking. Can you clarify.