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Post by xcb »

I spent about a decade of my life living overseas, pretty much constantly on the move. At some point, living outside of one's comfort zone can become a comfort zone in and of itself. When I finally got married and bought a house, it was a radically new experience for me. I see no particularly compelling reason to continue to pursue zany adventures simply for the sake of doing so. The idea that progress can't be linear is as ridiculous as the idea that progress must be linear.

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xcb wrote:I spent about a decade of my life living overseas, pretty much constantly on the move. At some point, living outside of one's comfort zone can become a comfort zone in and of itself. When I finally got married and bought a house, it was a radically new experience for me. I see no particularly compelling reason to continue to pursue zany adventures simply for the sake of doing so. The idea that progress can't be linear is as ridiculous as the idea that progress must be linear.
Well, I can see how living constantly on the move could become a comfort zone for you, just as having a house with a garden would be the comfort zone for another. I can also see how settling down in one place could be a radical experience for you.
The idea that progress can't be linear is as ridiculous as the idea that progress must be linear.
True.....it is best as a balance.
Life is an Adventure, there's something new around every corner.

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Ah! Common ground has been struck! Balance is awesome. :)

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Post by Shaam »

LOL....I think that both of us think on common ground more often than not...
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Post by Venefica »

I do not think the point is to always live with adventures, I think the point here is to challenge how one look at the world and not let it become dogma, so one is sure it is oneself that are master of one's philosophy and moral system and not the other way around.
*Learn magic for it is the only truth of this reality, become magic and you will become the essence of that truth--Ars Magica
*Cats are magical, the more you pet them the longer you both live--Unknown
*The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper--Eden Phillpotts

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I think the point here is to challenge how one look at the world and not let it become dogma, so one is sure it is oneself that are master of one's philosophy and moral system and not the other way around.
Indeed...I agree. There are many things that come into play here. I think it's good to discuss as many elements as possible. It may help someone to look at things differently in relation to how they 'view their world';)
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Post by darkwolf »

Hrm... balance is indeed an important point, and it is interesting to note that the main posters *seem* to agree that moving often from your "comfort zone" is a good idea. Yes, constantly moving can become a "comfort zone", but when something *becomes* a "comfort zone", then maybe the behaviour needs changing. I know I go absolutely nuts if I can't travel and simply experience things once in a while, but I also hate not having times where I can just stay in one place for a long time (hence my love of coffee shops and luncheon pubs, where a drink can last you a good two hours, if you're careful about it)

But yes, balance and paradox. This has, however, slightly strayed from the original point, so to get slightly back on track, my beginner's advice: Start by learning how you perceive. People forget the absolute beginner basics, and choosing a "path" is something that, really, is to be saved until you have at least a basic understanding of yourself.

There, my two cents.

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Post by Venefica »

I do not know about comfort zone, I do not see the need to move out of it for the case of moving out of it, but if you are to learn anything you need to challenge yourself. If you are to get a strong body, you must exercise until it hurts a bit, if you are to learn to program a computer you must try harder and harder tasks before you get good, if you only ever stay with what you think is easy, you will never advance. However something can be said for keeping it easy in the beginning and not gaping over more than one can chew. Challenge yes, but if you set yourself up for failure you get no where either. You have to set the right kind of challenge for yourself to advance in anything.
*Learn magic for it is the only truth of this reality, become magic and you will become the essence of that truth--Ars Magica
*Cats are magical, the more you pet them the longer you both live--Unknown
*The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper--Eden Phillpotts

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