Magick for Penis growth?

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Original post: Jenfucius

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Original post: Jenfucius

I don't think those things are frivalous, but when you go around thinking that magic is some kind of meal ticket that will let you do whatever you want and get whatever you want, then you are likely to get a good kick in the ass by the Universe.

I agree. Its a common misconception that magick is some sort of quick fix solution.

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Original post: Luke Saint

My penis gets to the size it can be due to magick.

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Original post: AETERNITAS0

Your penis grows in conformity with will? at least you'lll never need viagra.

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Original post: Luke Saint

[QUOTE=AETERNITAS0;360263]Your penis grows in conformity with will? at least you'lll never need viagra.[/QUOTE]

LOL. If there's a lady and I'm not bloody drunk... yup.

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Original post: Draginvry

[QUOTE=dr. ski wampas;360198]

has an understanding of "chaos magick" led you to break any of the laws of physics,
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I have gone on a twenty one day water fast, and a seven day dry fast. Both feats which some people consider to be impossible.

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Original post: Qez

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The theres still a few answers that lead nowhere but stupidity and ignorance (those who answer like this should not be called nor considered Magicians, accepting failure before doing everything to get it wont get you far at all. if this is the way you think you're condemned to be a Looser, therefore your opinion is worth less than nothing)
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A true magician realises the essence, the formless, the unity of the higher self with that which is divine. Through this realisation, the higher self acts as a vessel though which this divine impulse (or True Will) flows into creation. Until one refuses to realise this, he is trapped in the egotistical world of form, in which stupid and ignorant questions consequently lead to "stupidity and ignorance" in kind.


[QUOTE=catman13;359860]
I just want more and period, your opinion is worthless cause Im not looking to achieve this out of "insecurity" nor "infantile male obsession" (considering that an infant has male obsession already).
I want this just because I FELT LIKE IT. I WANT IT. Period.
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True Magicians are masters of themselves... and ultimately the realisation that following their egotistical desires leads only to suffering.

[QUOTE=catman13;359860]
True Magicians who actually achieve what They Want, work out of True Will, They dont work with whats possible or whats not possible according to mere humans. If we all followed what make sense for everyone, we wouldnt get that far at all.
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Unfortunately, this is not how magic works. What "you want" is a desire that originates from the ego. According to Crowley's definition, True will acts in accordance to Nature, i.e. that which is divine. Basically, God and the higher-YOU are interwoven - the impulse comes from this mesh -- this is what is moved into creation - this is the divine impulse in you/everything. It has NOTHING to do with your ego-manufactured desires.

[QUOTE=catman13;359860]
True Magicians have
Virulent Imagination
Will of Fire
Rock-hard Faith
Flair for Secrecy
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True magicians have nothing but their personal insights and dedication to the Great Work, in which they realise themselves - the divinity within.


To sum it up, your task is impossible. The main reason is, magic cannot be operated while awareness is absorbed in the ego. Perhaps magic can shed some insight and help in overcoming your ego-desire to have a larger penis. I believe this to be an a worthwhile task.

Otherwise, a plastic surgeon would do the trick too!

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Original post: Centrix

True Magicians are masters of themselves... and ultimately the realisation that following their egotistical desires leads only to suffering.

This isn't Buddhism.

True magicians have nothing but their personal insights and dedication to the Great Work, in which they realise themselves - the divinity within.

If divinity exists within then it existed way before you were ever born. That means it never needed you (the ego, the pesonality, your ordinary sense of self) to begin with. Which means, you as a person do not matter one iota.

Unfortunate as it seems, divinity can do fine with or without you. It certainly has done so in the past. Ever considered a shot to the head to reach the ultimate enlightenment stage?

The main reason is, magic cannot be operated while awareness is absorbed in the ego. Perhaps magic can shed some insight and help in overcoming your ego-desire to have a larger penis. I believe this to be an a worthwhile task.

Folks, if you think you never got involved with magic for obtaining tangible power and control, you are most certainly kidding yourselves. You will be better off in a Buddhist monastery or in the grave.

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=shadow flame;360017]magick provides whatever you will. putting restriction on magick is blasphemy :evil:[/QUOTE]

Not so much "Blasphemy" as "Self-Imposed Weakness".
We all have them. It's where Faith butt's heads with "Reason".

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=petrus4;360143]I don't think you really need to worry too much. Given some of the other subforums here, I think it's very safe to say that this site would already fail to qualify as "family friendly." Anyone who has kids reading stuff here has already well and truly failed as a responsible parent. :evil:[/QUOTE]

~LMMFAO!!!!~

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=dr. ski wampas;360198]
has an understanding of "chaos magick" led you to break any of the laws of physics, that we generally find restricting our ability to fly, or time travel or pull a yacht out of our ass?
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I walked upon a fresh snow bank, in cowboy boots (They were a gift, folks), leaving only 2 centimeter deep footprints.

I've Incurred Inverse Causality, to not only achieve my goals, but actually re-write history between that point & the present.

I can control probability at a whim, Communicate telepathically, and pull all 6 winning lottery numbers for one of the next two pulls on the following week. I've done it TWICE!

I have cast a curse so vile, that the target died, a year & a day later, on the very anniversary and TIME of my Birth!

If you aren't getting these results, then you aren't trying: You're PLAYING!
Raise the Bar!

"SUCK IT UP, PRINCESS!!!"

You don't diss my Buddies!

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Qez;360292]A true magician realises the essence, the formless, the unity of the higher self with that which is divine. Through this realisation, the higher self acts as a vessel though which this divine impulse (or True Will) flows into creation. Until one refuses to realise this, he is trapped in the egotistical world of form, in which stupid and ignorant questions consequently lead to "stupidity and ignorance" in kind.[/QUOTE]

In the scientific fields, they call it The Morphic Field. It's alleged you can find evidence of it in an un-fertilized chicken egg. I simply haven't tried to reproduce the effects.
(Time for me to rebuild my lab!)

...and Hey! We're all here because we know "There's Something More". If you hold to the Karmic/Dharmic Models, people are developing at the speed they CAN, and from the models they have.
We're all part of the same creative force trying to find that True-est path.
(Damn! That sounded too fucking Fluffy-Bunny! I feel Dirty!)

[QUOTE=Qez;360292]True Magicians are masters of themselves... and ultimately the realisation that following their egotistical desires leads only to suffering.
[/QUOTE]
Nope! Creature Comforts are earned, and the only thing the Wizard must learn is that the only possession they really have is the skin around them, and they'll loose that too!

[QUOTE=Qez;360292]Unfortunately, this is not how magic works. What "you want" is a desire that originates from the ego. According to Crowley's definition, True will acts in accordance to Nature, i.e. that which is divine. Basically, God and the higher-YOU are interwoven - the impulse comes from this mesh -- this is what is moved into creation - this is the divine impulse in you/everything. It has NOTHING to do with your ego-manufactured desires. [/QUOTE]

I disagree: I think it validates them. If one is in touch with their True Will, then the role they play within the "Collective" (as Jung would put it later on), is to be what they are as prescribed by that Will in conjunction with the "God-Will".
You are what you are. Now, BE It!

[QUOTE=Qez;360292]True magicians have nothing but their personal insights and dedication to the Great Work, in which they realise themselves - the divinity within.
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We still live in a material world. We are subject to it's laws & drives, here, as we are to the Higher Laws on the Higher Levels of manifestation.
We are multi-form manifestations, on Multiple Levels of Reality, simultaneously.
Mates are attracted by differing things. If you are male, the best mates is partially dependent upon Wealth, as a provider & protector, to attract more potential mates.
To think in terms of celibacy is to doom our kind to the same result as catholics: Closeted Homosexuals & pedophiles, denying their sexuality.

[QUOTE=Qez;360292]To sum it up, your task is impossible. The main reason is, magic cannot be operated while awareness is absorbed in the ego. Perhaps magic can shed some insight and help in overcoming your ego-desire to have a larger penis. I believe this to be an a worthwhile task. [/QUOTE]

The problem with that statement is "Tibetan Mistranslation". The REAL translation of The "Kali Principle" is "VANITY", not "Ego".
Ego is what has kept us alive, fighting for our "Pecking order", and acquiring the comforts we need to survive longer & support more offspring.
How can a Spirituality be so at Odds with the Race that addresses it?
Evolution & Spirituality cannot be at odds, or it is false.

They have another word for that: "Sin"! ~LMAO!~

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=AETERNITAS0;360223]If magick really worked this way, gave you whatever you wanted when you wanted it etc, I'm sure the whole entire universe would be something akin to what you read in Marvel Comics.[/QUOTE]

Do you want that?
I can teach it to you.

I'm still disappointed that, here we are, 22 years after Chernobyl Reactor Leak, and still no Superheroes!!!

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Original post: altpath

To whom it may concern (to those especially that think magic has to be some spiritual thing through and through), I can easily admit that I started out with magic to get laid, LOL, and I'm not ashamed of that. I haven't really changed my beliefs either, I just got better at getting what I want with magic.

I've not had the same level of personal success that Azzerac has, but I've done some things that defy logic, science, and any other way you want to look at it.

I agree that's it's all about the limitations we impose on ourselves. Success with Magic is, IMHO, the product of an open mind and the will to push the boundaries of what is currently considered the limit.

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Draginvry;360281]I have gone on a twenty one day water fast, and a seven day dry fast. Both feats which some people consider to be impossible.[/QUOTE]

ROCK ON!!
I still don't have that level of "Mind Over Body".
I can modify my heart rate, blood-pressure, and temperature, though.

...and, "YES:Thanks to that, my penis is Huge!"

...just to get back on topic!

(It sucks, having to select women by the size of their noses!)
(Streisand is still fugly, to this man's eyes!) ~LOL!~

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Original post: Qez

This isn't Buddhism.

In one perspective, from the absolute came the relative and to the absolute the relative will return. Labels, forms, ideas - (including Buddhism) these are all relative, ego-constructed and ego-maintained truths. As these truths were conceived so they will surely pass. One may believe in magic flying peanut-summoning monkeys, or the rigorous dogma of Catholicism - they are all relative truths, but in them the seed of the absolute remains. All spiritual paths, all religions, all forms, have their beginning and ending seated in the absolute. Perhaps, the realisation is - are we the path, the label we attach to ourselves, the conceptualisations we identify and define ourselves as? OR, are we the actual person walking the path - and willing to let go of our ego-constructed attachments along the way. In doing so, we realise that there never was any path, and never really any person walking that path. The Great Work is realising the I AM. Whether you want to call it Buddhism, The Great Work or whatever - mere labels that the ego uses to discriminate.

If divinity exists within then it existed way before you were ever born. That means it never needed you (the ego, the pesonality, your ordinary sense of self) to begin with. Which means, you as a person do not matter one iota.

I realise that I never was born, that I am the essence beyond form, beyond mind, beyond body (birth + death) - the I AM. Time is an ego-constructed concept. You are correct, the ego does not matter, but it likes to believe it does! Take a moment to look within and repeat "I AM". This awareness, this presence that lies beyond mind, beyond thought - this is it. It doesn't *need* the body or mind, because it is formless and eternal.

Unfortunate as it seems, divinity can do fine with or without you. It certainly has done so in the past. Ever considered a shot to the head to reach the ultimate enlightenment stage?

The higher self, the part of me that I AM, this is divine. The ego-constructed sense of self, the mind, your thoughts arise as an impulse from the higher-self into the manifested world.

Folks, if you think you never got involved with magic for obtaining tangible power and control, you are most certainly kidding yourselves. You will be better off in a Buddhist monastery or in the grave.

Power and control are ultimately inconsequential in the phenomenal world. Eventually, everything comes to pass, including our power, our control and eventually our human body and mind. Magic, to me, is about aligning my higher-self with the divine in order to realise myself and bring about change in me and ultimately the world around me. The Great Work is a theurgic one, not an expression of MY ego. To the buddhist, the goal or realisation is the same, the external path just appears to differ.

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Original post: shadow flame

some people here, on this thread, sound like they never cast a spell to change external world in their life.
true will can kiss my ass, i'm after chicks and fame
the above sentence is joke, just so some people don't misunderstand

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Original post: Draginvry

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I still don't have that level of "Mind Over Body".[/QUOTE]

That's only because you lack experience. When one devotes themselves to the observational study of how the body functions, an understanding of how it works begins to form. With this understanding, one realizes that the human body isn't nearly as limited as people foolishly believe it to be. New levels of strength, possibilities, and mental and psychospiritual capabilities begin to form.

At this point one understands that making a distinction between mind and body isn't very productive. They both share an integral relation to the capabilities one has as a magickian. The body is only a reflection of the mind. Physical results follow mental adeptness just as mental clarity defines how the body processes the world around it. Foolishly grasping for physical results while ignoring one's state of mind is just as ignorant as trying to ignore the world and live in a fantasy or meditating with no defined purpose.

When I meet a witch or magickian in person, I can always tell their real power just by their physical attributes and how they use them. Because real skill is always reflected in the body. This is one of the reasons I find parkour to be so usefull, because it is a true test of will. It is easy to fool oneself of their true power when they are living only in their head. It takes another thing to challenge the body with new and dangerous tasks.

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Original post: Qez

...and Hey! We're all here because we know "There's Something More". If you hold to the Karmic/Dharmic Models, people are developing at the speed they CAN, and from the models they have.
We're all part of the same creative force trying to find that True-est path.
(Damn! That sounded too fucking Fluffy-Bunny! I feel Dirty!)

I believe this to be so, and I have commented on this in other threads. Allow others, despite what they believe, to be. The universe is an expression of the divine. Each in their own way in their own time. Fortunately, others give us the opportunity to grow. Through acceptance, we can turn the seemingly malevolent egotistical needs of others into a spiritual practice.

I disagree: I think it validates them. If one is in touch with their True Will, then the role they play within the "Collective" (as Jung would put it later on), is to be what they are as prescribed by that Will in conjunction with the "God-Will".
You are what you are. Now, BE It!

Yes, it isn't necessary to express disagreement. The ego is the densest, illusionary form of self - that which resists the divine impulse of the I AM from existence. By moving awareness out of the ego to the I AM, this impulse flows without resistance into creation.

We still live in a material world. We are subject to it's laws & drives, here, as we are to the Higher Laws on the Higher Levels of manifestation.

The I AM is the higher-self, the unmanifest, the formless. The body and mind exist in the material world, but they soon fade along with the ego. This is why, that which exists is less important than that which does not exist.

The problem with that statement is "Tibetan Mistranslation". The REAL translation of The "Kali Principle" is "VANITY", not "Ego".
Ego is what has kept us alive, fighting for our "Pecking order", and acquiring the comforts we need to survive longer & support more offspring.
How can a Spirituality be so at Odds with the Race that addresses it?
Evolution & Spirituality cannot be at odds, or it is false.

My definition of ego, is the self-constructed conceptualised sense of self that we identify or define ourselves with. I don't mind if you like to call it vanity, the word doesn't really matter.

Ego is not necessary for life, and in contrast is probably one of the most destructive force. Look at the group-ego mentality associated with wars. Now, look at nature. A single delicate flower exists without resistance to the universal impulse. It can create offspring in harmony with everything else, without needing to mass eradicate other flowers.

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Original post: Qez

[QUOTE=shadow flame;360381]some people here, on this thread, sound like they never cast a spell to change external world in their life.
true will can kiss my ass, i'm after chicks and fame
the above sentence is joke, just so some people don't misunderstand[/QUOTE]

It is perfectly fine to participate and experience the ups and downs of the manifested world in all its glory. Its perfectly fine to have desires, needs and wants. The manifested world is a great teacher. However, when one has suffered enough by being absorbed in the ego, it eventually begins to dissolve. As it dissolves, so does the resistance to the "higher light" begin to shine through and the craving for something more. The manifested world becomes unsatisfactory for this craving, and many feel unfulfilled or empty. A spiritual practice can increase the quality and density of this "higher light", until it flows unchecked without resistance and the false-sense of self i.e. the ego, dissolves completely. This is the Great Work.

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=altpath;360317]To whom it may concern (to those especially that think magic has to be some spiritual thing through and through), I can easily admit that I started out with magic to get laid, LOL, and I'm not ashamed of that. I haven't really changed my beliefs either, I just got better at getting what I want with magic.

I've not had the same level of personal success that Azzerac has, but I've done some things that defy logic, science, and any other way you want to look at it.

I agree that's it's all about the limitations we impose on ourselves. Success with Magic is, IMHO, the product of an open mind and the will to push the boundaries of what is currently considered the limit.[/QUOTE]

~HIGH FIVE!!~
A Fellow "Wiz-Bang"! (Definition: Guyz who get involved in Magic, "Because Chicks Dig It!" ~LOL!~)
I didn't start out that way, but once I found-out the side effects ,...

"Only my Harem is allowed to call it a Harem"!;)

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Centrix;360304]
If divinity exists within then it existed way before you were ever born. That means it never needed you (the ego, the pesonality, your ordinary sense of self) to begin with. Which means, you as a person do not matter one iota.

Unfortunate as it seems, divinity can do fine with or without you. It certainly has done so in the past. Ever considered a shot to the head to reach the ultimate enlightenment stage?

Folks, if you think you never got involved with magic for obtaining tangible power and control, you are most certainly kidding yourselves. You will be better off in a Buddhist monastery or in the grave.[/QUOTE]

Little Severe on that last point, don't you think? ~L~

There's one cosmology that holds that the "Divine Force" was once a single entity, and in order to experience it's self, it divided it's self. ...and kept going. The ideology holds that in developing spiritually, back to that "Whole", is the very act of experiencing the "Whole", through as many vantage-points (Incarnations) as You/We/It can.

Even It doesn't know it's self, but it may have a good idea by now.
Not only does it infer a level of experimentalism to the whole universe, but it also means "It wants to find out all the myriad ways" of doing it, right or wrong!

My point is "Keep Doing It Differently"! Take what another offers, and if it doesn't work, Ditch It.
If it DOES work, add it to your Milieu explore the effectiveness of that info or technique, and build upon it.

Even in being a Greedy Hedonist, there is value to that "Great Creative Force"

"Bacchanalia for Buddha"!!

You're way is too damned "Lovecraft" for me to want to get up in the morning! ~LOL!~

NOTE: I realize how "Cell Division" this cosmology sounds. Does that invalidate it or trivialize it?

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Original post: Azzerac

[QUOTE=Qez;360385]I believe this to be so, and I have commented on this in other threads. Allow others, despite what they believe, to be. The universe is an expression of the divine. Each in their own way in their own time. Fortunately, others give us the opportunity to grow. Through acceptance, we can turn the seemingly malevolent egotistical needs of others into a spiritual practice.


Yes, it isn't necessary to express disagreement. The ego is the densest, illusionary form of self - that which resists the divine impulse of the I AM from existence. By moving awareness out of the ego to the I AM, this impulse flows without resistance into creation.


The I AM is the higher-self, the unmanifest, the formless. The body and mind exist in the material world, but they soon fade along with the ego. This is why, that which exists is less important than that which does not exist.



My definition of ego, is the self-constructed conceptualised sense of self that we identify or define ourselves with. I don't mind if you like to call it vanity, the word doesn't really matter.

Ego is not necessary for life, and in contrast is probably one of the most destructive force. Look at the group-ego mentality associated with wars. Now, look at nature. A single delicate flower exists without resistance to the universal impulse. It can create offspring in harmony with everything else, without needing to mass eradicate other flowers.[/QUOTE]

Did I misunderstand you, or are you saying that the universe created us all wrong, and some human mind has the vanity to say it knows how it should have happened?!
What Fucking Egotistical Bastard sold you THAT bill of goods?!

"Isn't Necessary"?! No it isn't, but that appears to be what we're doing here.

It's foolish to look into the Face of What IS and try to say it's not: Be it argument, or Reality, or cosmology, or manifestation.!

...but it seems "disagree" is what you just did. Hmmnnn... You "Expressed" it, even.

I hold the same view of the people that say this country sucks, with the same Free Speech that gave them the right to say it.

The computer your reading this on sits in front of you because of someone's ego, yet you're too disconnected from a "WHOLE World" view to see it!
It is that same construct of self that keeps you "Picking & Choosing" the aspects of reality you think apply, "and Hades take the rest"!

The Real World is a sick, twisted, vile, sticky, sensuous, delightful, awe-inspiring, Humbling-yet-Deifying Place. That world is a manifestation of the divine. How can you disqualify that?

I hate to be the one to tell you:
"The emperor is naked, my friend".

Now tell me the words don't matter.
Sorry if I stepped on your Flowers.

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Original post: shadow flame

human race would be pretty much dead without ego.
those tigers would have eaten us long time ago if we decided to connect to divinity and vegetate

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Original post: Qez

Did I misunderstand you, or are you saying that the universe created us all wrong, and some human mind has the vanity to say it knows how it should have happened?!
What Fucking Egotistical Bastard sold you THAT bill of goods?!

There is no right or wrong, or should have been. There is only what is. It is the nature of the human mind to judge, to discriminate, to analyse and to interpret. The mind creates conceptualisations that define who I am, or rather who I think I am. These conceptualisations are not the real me, and here lies the primary delusion of the self. Man is lost in thought.

Yes, every person who has not realised the true self relies on relative truths, the vanity/ego that believes the "should have happened" is a relative truth - this is how religions, philosophies, dogmas and so forth arise. The ego is attached to these relative truths, in their subjective forms with an external label. When another criticises this label, there is a reaction from the ego, the mind and body go into defense/attack mode and there is an outward unconscious reaction. Man is not in conscious control of his actions when he has not consciously realised his true self.

It's foolish to look into the Face of What IS and try to say it's not: Be it argument, or Reality, or cosmology, or manifestation.!

Exactly! I'm not asking you to believe me. This would still be a relative truth. What I am asking, is to look within and find the absolute yourself. This is the Great Work.

...but it seems "disagree" is what you just did. Hmmnnn... You "Expressed" it, even.

I should have elaborated in my previous post. I said it isn't necessary to disagree because the discussion points that were made were the same. The expression of the absolute always is relative. There is no way to encapsulate the absolute in manifested form.

It is that same construct of self that keeps you "Picking & Choosing" the aspects of reality you think apply, "and Hades take the rest"!

Precisely. When man is lost in the delusion of the self, there is a resistance to what is i.e. the thoughts we choose to believe.

The Real World is a sick, twisted, vile, sticky, sensuous, delightful, awe-inspiring, Humbling-yet-Deifying Place. That world is a manifestation of the divine. How can you disqualify that?

The real world is as it is. These descriptions or definitions arise from the discriminate mind, a resistance to what is. When the higher self has been realised, these definitions are dropped - you don't define or conceptualise the world around you - you are the world around you, the living, breathing essence of the divine.

Now tell me the words don't matter.
Sorry if I stepped on your Flowers.

Words can never encapsulate the absolute, so it is difficult to express this. And, no need to apologise. Each action and event, however egotistically painful it is, has the potential to be used as a spiritual practice.

Take care,