Paradigim shift 2012

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Original post: Venus666

A paradigm is a conceptual framework or set of assumptions under which we make rules, and determine inquiry. In this sense Pluto reflects the current paradigm collectively that we are "agreeing" to be our parameter of interest and development. The issues of the period by sign and aspects are reflected through it. But the individuals born under a certain paradigm manifest that paradigm as the current paradigm when they reach adult age 20 years or so later. That imprint seems to exist then and is brought forward in time.
Conjunctions of the outer planets to Pluto reflects the periods when these paradigms shift in focus or content. Since Neptune's orbit and Pluto's orbit cover some of the same space sometimes (because of the off center shape of their orbits) they work together in this dissolution and reformation of global and collective perspective development. The solar system itself is in a state of developmental awareness and consciousness expansion that is reflected in the collective perspective. It is the collective consciousness in material form.

Uranus is the planet that reflects the primary energies of dislodging the old paradigm sets so this change can take place. The quadratures between Uranus and Pluto are very significant indicators of these collective shifts. The Pluto in Leo generation therefore was able to take advantage of a paradigm shift with which to express their specific change as the major paradigm during the Uranus/Pluto conjunction of 1965.

The last conjunction of Uranus/Pluto was at 29 Aries which preceded the Civil War.

This is easily seen by its square to the materialistic position of Pluto in Capricorn in the chart of the US at 27 Capricorn. Here we had a revolution in ego dominance (Aries) of the collective and racial perspective. Uranus rules 10 (the president) and Pluto rules 6 (service and servants, work and the 12th of the public). It was also the time that California became a state. California has always been know for its "conglomeration" populace and weird or strange lifestyles. The seal of California depicts a Grizzly bear as the symbol of the early American struggle for independence.
to quote paradigim shift 2012, and astrological view of the world in the future

http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradigm_shift_2012.htm

this site is an intriguing view on the astrological forcast of the comming future. I just quoted a paragraph

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Original post: Sinasbin

ONA predicts the coming of a new Aeonic shift.

It must be fun to predict things...

And watch, with devious glee, as a scrambling following of fanatics forms around your very fanciful thoughts.

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Original post: Alarum

A) Sinasbin, you worry me....
B) The Olympic games are being held in England in 2012.....I a very very worried. (I know loads on this subject and have posted one of my collections of coincidences on this site, the other two were lost when the ISO closed down...damn shame.)

Personally I believe that since the Venus transit was the beginning of the Great change that will be complete on December 23rd 2012. I believe that John, from the Bible was contacted by a trans-temperal entity while he was writing Revelations. But because of his limited knowledge he attributed the message to God. Rev 12, 1 reads: "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars"

The woman was Venus, as she passed over the sun, the 12 stars are the signs of the zodiac.

I believe that on a metaphorical/ collective-subconscious level, the war in heaven is being waged. Satan was never cast to Hell, his place has always been the Earth, and in 2012 the war will be over. Verse 7 reads: "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels". However, I believe that it is Christianity and organised religion that will lose, as recent times suggest. Ever since the Bablon working by Parsons society has been becoming more and more liberal, free thinking and progressive, I believe this will reach a climax in 2012, even if nothing physical happens I think everything will begin to change.
John also wrote that the Earth would be flooded, which the Mayans also predicted with their calendar, which enters the new age on 2012.
"15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood."

I believe the flood will be a psychic one, when the very mentality of the human race will be transformed and we will grow into a higher being.

Of course....this may all be rubbish....lol.

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Original post: Sinasbin

As long as I conjure some type of emotion within you, all is good!

It's when we start getting complacent do they start to appear, drawing ever closer from the darkest shadows of our innermost psyche.

You've seen them, you know of what I speak. They laugh and spit and curse as they spawn from the recesses of our own cultural and intellectual stagnance. The bastards of a forgotten, once-nurturing mind...

I say MAY I NEVER BE CONTENT!!

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Original post: oriax

2012 is when I am freed to walk the earth in my true form as eternal lord of darkness. My powers will be restored and I shall take vengeance upon those who have imprisoned me in this weak, fleshy form.Those of you who are able, I suggest opening a vortex and escaping to another universe before Dec 31st 2011.

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Original post: Alarum

Now I worry about oriax just as much as I worry about Sinasbin....Please tell me your joking oriax.

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Original post: frater luciferi

it seems to me that 2012 is definately some sort of aeonic date? i mean i know that the age of man is supposed to be coming pretty soon. Which would make sense i guess because this IS the information age and all that. So maybe its going to coincide? or maybe its going to be a load of shite. EIther way i am hoping for some sort of change within the collective unconcious.

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Original post: Alarum

It may be a load of shite....but the Mayans knew something was gonna happen, at the end of every Great Cycle the Earth is flooded in Mayan mythology. The prophets of the Bible knew it and the first part of its manifstation has aready passed (namely the transit of venus, or "The woman clothed with the sun") which signifies the coming of the new aeon. In the Bible, once the second sign in heaven (which I translate as being a comet) which "Drags down two thirds of the stars from heaven" (or as I see it, shooting stars) the Earth will be flooded by the Dragon.

Found some interesting links which I think are relavent to this thread....you might have to ignore some of the excess christian dogma...but you can filter out the rubbish.

http://www.satansrapture.com/nostra2012.htm
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/
http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/books.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html

One more interesting thing.....this all ends on the 23 of December 2012

the 23rd day! 23! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
http://afgen.com/numbr23b.html
http://fusionanomaly.net/23.html

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Original post: Alarum

Maybe John (from the Bible) was contacted by an extraterrestrial entity from Nibiru when it passed ('if' it passed, and 'if' it is Sedna) last. Or maybe an extratemporal event allowed him to know, or maybe John Titer was the prophet from the Bible! Who knows, bugger all will happen and I'll look silly lol

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Original post: Trapezoid

[QUOTE=Sinasbin]ONA predicts the coming of a new Aeonic shift.

It must be fun to predict things...

And watch, with devious glee, as a scrambling following of fanatics forms around your very fanciful thoughts.[/QUOTE]
Every groups proclaims a new aeonic shift when they start. Whether or not they can build something to prove it is another thing entirely.

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Original post: Trapezoid

[QUOTE=frater luciferi]it seems to me that 2012 is definately some sort of aeonic date? i mean i know that the age of man is supposed to be coming pretty soon. Which would make sense i guess because this IS the information age and all that. So maybe its going to coincide? or maybe its going to be a load of shite. EIther way i am hoping for some sort of change within the collective unconcious.[/QUOTE]
The problem that I keep running across is that the date 2012 from the Mayan standpoint of how they built their calendar has already passed according to some people. I don't have the archaeology background to get into this with any form of scholarly background, but I know there are a couple of people here who could do it justice. Remember how the world was supposed to end in 2000 when all of our toasters and refrigerators were supposed to stop talking to us? We got through that just fine.

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Original post: Alarum

You do have a point Trapezoid..........It could all be rubbish. But I love to dream.

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Original post: Torn

hopefully then if (agreeing with alarums point of view) god loses the war in heaven against angels in 2012, this can only be contributed to one think that needs to happen on earth.

The banning of organised religeon in public places. No more being focred to say prayers at school, or have muslim clerics preach against the west whilst standing in england, no more swearing on the bible in court. this is what needs to happen so everyone can just ignore religeon and get on how we were supposed to.

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Original post: DocHolliday

The banning of organised religeon in public places.

You're quite the totalitarian facsist, aren't you.

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Original post: Alarum

"You're quite the totalitarian fascist, aren't you." I really donâ??t think this should be continued, not a mod or anything but I just donâ??t like threads turning into arguments about individuals politics. DocHoliday, I wish you no disrespect and I know that people here have a very wide spectrum of beliefs, personal philosophies and political opinions; but if you are offended by Torns post could you just PM him or take it to the politics forum.

(Back to the thread)

Its not that I believe in God and Satan in the deity way, as actual beings. But I do believe they exist (as I believe all entities and godforms etc live) in the collective subconscious of our race. Certain Archetypes are always present throughout history and these gods are a very real aspect of the human condition.
It is my hope that this new aeon will move humanity away from the 'crutch' of religion, not destroy it. Destroying religion is impossible, it is HARD wired into our brain and it would be unnatural to divorce ourselves of it. Belief in magic is after all a form of religion, or a belief.

I believe that the 'idea' (the dark force of nature) of Satan is about to return to Earth (Hell) and return to his rightful place. I believe that the Christian God is an imposter, an alien entity that does not belong on our world na, our dimension. As a Satanist I believe that YHVH is a complete inversion of all nature (but I donâ??t want to get into a debate about this, if you want we could debate this in another thread) and that he does not represent the 'good' or 'positive' aspect of nature. He is a third element that is antithesis to our world and is the amalgamation of many other gods that have been processed and utilised to enslave humanity by other men. I believe that the dark force of nature is a priori, that it is 'there' without human interpretation and that it exists within us, no matter how much we deny it.
When this new aeon emerges God, the outsider will be forced back and will dissipate from our world. I donâ??t think it will suddenly change and politicians will 'ban' religion; I think it will be a natural process whereby the individuals that practice organised religion will become disillusioned and will leave it of there own accord. Within a generation or two it will subside almost completely.

Then in another seven thousand years (or whatever) another aeon will arise and the religious nature of humanity will once again grow. It all works in cycles.

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Original post: Skeptismo118

December 22, 2012 is the date based upon the Maya Long Count Calender for the "roll over" of the largest part of their calendirical system, a "Baka'tun" marking about 400 years.

Baka'tun rollovers, though auspicious by tradition, are not seen suggesting the end of the World nor does the Maya calender stop on this date. It simply clicks up to the next Baka'tun in the same way that "1999" rolled over to "2000."

The mythology around the date as being the mark of the end of the world comes in part from the McKenna brothers works in the 1970s on their Mushroom inspired Timewave Theory. Since then it has become a common New Age idea that has spread into the mass culture to greater or lesser extents with little to no importance to the Maya people who still use long count based dates for divination.

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Original post: Alarum

Ahh.....well you see, all the stuff I've read said it was the 23rd....not the 22nd.
I wasnt suggesting an 'end to the world', just a new age, a new beginning as such. Just a change like you said, from 1999 to 2000. But I have read a lot about the Mayan's saying that at the end of ever great age the world is flooded, are you saying that I have just been decived by exagerated new age mumbo jumbo....(Starts to cry at all those waisted hours planning his fortress of doom with the tree house command center and tinned food supplies....and the loss of not being able to live through humanities demise.......sob.)

Hay! Maybe there'll be zombies!

"merrrrrrrrr, meeerrrrrrrrrrr, bwainsssssssssss"

"Eat shit zombie scum!" clickclick BLAM!
"Ohhh hes got an arm off!"

http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Dr%20Choronzon

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Original post: Venus666

I believe that the Christian God is an imposter, an alien entity that does not belong on our world and, our dimension. As a Satanist I believe that YHVH is a complete inversion of all nature..Alarum

my sentiments exactly. I , also, believe that jehofa is the enemy of earth, unfortunately.
I believe the paradigim shift is going to happen because we are surrounding ourself in technology..Technology is the new GOD

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Original post: Skeptismo118

All things considered it really might be worth reading Thomas S. Kuhn's _The Structure of Scientific Revolutions_. This is the work that the concept of "paradigm" comes from and will clarify what it actually means (i.e. "a worldview established as a result of a specific practice") rather then how it is commonly used (i.e. "Generic worldview").

It's also a fun read in a super-nerd sort of way.

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Original post: Alarum

Cool, I will check this out, thanks for the recomendation

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Original post: kaereste

[QUOTE=Skeptismo118]December 22, 2012 is the date based upon the Maya Long Count Calender for the "roll over" of the largest part of their calendirical system, a "Baka'tun" marking about 400 years.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but I really don't intend for a massive paradigm shift to overshadow my 31st birthday. Unless I get to do the shifting.

It seems to me that, at present, technology is already on quite a pedestal. The masses (despite the feigned aleagence to the Mosaic God), worship facts, figures, analysis, and practicality. The generation currently running things (Pluto in Vigo) has managed to create drudgework even in areas considered high-tech. This is the generation that works 80 hours a week at an office job. Happiness is deemed a negligible factor, and the first thing one gets asked is, "so, what do you do for a living?"

The generation that will orchestrate the shift (Pluto in Libra) is the same generation that can't stand to be out of contact with other people for more than a few minutes. (Chat, IM, cell phones, texting, et cetera). This generation values relationships, communication, self-(insert just about anything here), and is not willing to allow any one aspect of their life to overpower any other. Id est, "yes, I will work. I will also have a social life, as well as a personal life."

That's just what I see, astrologically anyway.

Love and Light,
Kæreste

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Original post: Alarum

I never want to get a mobile phone.....hate the damn things.
However, I do like computers

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Original post: Torn

[QUOTE=DocHolliday]You're quite the totalitarian facsist, aren't you.[/QUOTE]
well if you take it out of context yes.

i did not mean no worshipping who you want, i was more to saying no rallies or things like that. keep these things inside the churches that were built for them.

I think a religeous meeting has just about as much right to exist as a race meeting, you cant have different standards, so to be honest they should allow white pride/black rights movements more freedom or take religeous movements to have less freedom.

to me they are just the same thing.

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Original post: m1thr0s

hopefully then if (agreeing with alarums point of view) god loses the war in heaven against angels in 2012, this can only be contributed to one think that needs to happen on earth.
The banning of organised religeon in public places. No more being focred to say prayers at school, or have muslim clerics preach against the west whilst standing in england, no more swearing on the bible in court. this is what needs to happen so everyone can just ignore religeon and get on how we were supposed to.[/quote]I don't see anything intentionally fascistic in this comment either, for what it's worth, but I do disagree with the conclusion. I don't think Satanism should concern itself so much with perceived incongruities in other religious practises but rather take this all for granted and proceed on with its own immediate beliefs and agendas. I think it's a busywork at best, looking to legislate on any level how others go about their lives if it doesn't specifically and immediately threaten your own. Not only has this never been successfully accomplished, but it consumes vast amounts of time and energy over fundamentally nothing, really. If Satanism is to represent the path of the individual it cannot afford to take on the mentality of the herd with respect to trying to shape how the herd shall or shall not behave en masse. Lead by good example and leave others to get lost and fall by their own bad ones...

m1thr0s

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Original post: Skeptismo118

I still can't figure out why folks cling to Astrology to explain anything. It's a prerational, only loosely coherent collection of social manipulation, agricultural forcasting and mumbojumbo.

Scapulamancy, now that's where the real action is at...