Original post: sadt
what is it?
and what do they do in el salvador
and what do dead flies on the sink mean?
or stares?
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Original post: Venefica
Brujeria is a type of Spanish witchcraft. As for what they do in El Salvador, most likely they live there.
Starts have allot of different meanings. Dead flies in your sink usually mean you have something poisonous there, if there is allot of them you should have it looked at by somone from pest control to find out if there is something poisonous and potentially dangerous in your kitchen or in the rest of your house.
Brujeria is a type of Spanish witchcraft. As for what they do in El Salvador, most likely they live there.
Starts have allot of different meanings. Dead flies in your sink usually mean you have something poisonous there, if there is allot of them you should have it looked at by somone from pest control to find out if there is something poisonous and potentially dangerous in your kitchen or in the rest of your house.
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Original post: altpath
[QUOTE=sadt;364274]
and what do dead flies on the sink mean?
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Care to elaborate on this?
[QUOTE=sadt;364274]
and what do dead flies on the sink mean?
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Care to elaborate on this?
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Original post: Athena
A friend of mine when he had some nasty entities around (I think it was the area he lived in) would have huge piles of flies that would congregate in certain areas for no reason at all even after they were washed. But dead flies? Perhaps you want to thank the person, better then fly paper
. OK I'm j/k on that, try a cleansing or something and see if that helps. The looks, could be evil eye, or could just be to scare you.
I know nothing about Brujeria, just answering about the common signs of things across various paths.
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A friend of mine when he had some nasty entities around (I think it was the area he lived in) would have huge piles of flies that would congregate in certain areas for no reason at all even after they were washed. But dead flies? Perhaps you want to thank the person, better then fly paper
. OK I'm j/k on that, try a cleansing or something and see if that helps. The looks, could be evil eye, or could just be to scare you.I know nothing about Brujeria, just answering about the common signs of things across various paths.
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Original post: sadt
my housekeeper or my parents housekeeper is nuts, she curses in spanish and is mean to my siblings.
anyways shes from el salvador and we think shes a witch. she stares alot and chants, she stands there chanting and wispering. she stares at people and stuff happens.
then she brought pests to our home, she cleans the bathrooms and we have checked the bathroom before and every time she walks out she leaves a dead insect on the sink even tho she "wipes down the sink"
we know it wasnt there when she went it because my sister used the bathroom before she cleaned it
she also lines things up. she will make circles out of shapoo bottles
make random circles when it was organized
she hates my cat and the week before my cat died she stared at her and left a fly on the sink
my housekeeper or my parents housekeeper is nuts, she curses in spanish and is mean to my siblings.
anyways shes from el salvador and we think shes a witch. she stares alot and chants, she stands there chanting and wispering. she stares at people and stuff happens.
then she brought pests to our home, she cleans the bathrooms and we have checked the bathroom before and every time she walks out she leaves a dead insect on the sink even tho she "wipes down the sink"
we know it wasnt there when she went it because my sister used the bathroom before she cleaned it
she also lines things up. she will make circles out of shapoo bottles
make random circles when it was organized
she hates my cat and the week before my cat died she stared at her and left a fly on the sink
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Original post: Venefica
So let me see, your sister, your parents, your housekeeper, your TV and who else? is all possessed in this huge conspiracy to get you? This have a name, it is called clinical paranoia and you really need to go get help for it. You need to stop searching in the occult for answers, if there is an occult reason you can deal with it later and you need to get your self to a metal health care professional before you get worse.
So let me see, your sister, your parents, your housekeeper, your TV and who else? is all possessed in this huge conspiracy to get you? This have a name, it is called clinical paranoia and you really need to go get help for it. You need to stop searching in the occult for answers, if there is an occult reason you can deal with it later and you need to get your self to a metal health care professional before you get worse.
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Original post: altpath
I don't know much about Brujeria, but it seems to me she's trying to scare you. It's possible she knows something about magic but like Athena said, it sounds like evil eye or just scare tactics.
More likely she's jealous of the things you have, thinks you don't pay her enough, etc. Just fire her and do some uncrossings on yourself and your home.
I don't know much about Brujeria, but it seems to me she's trying to scare you. It's possible she knows something about magic but like Athena said, it sounds like evil eye or just scare tactics.
More likely she's jealous of the things you have, thinks you don't pay her enough, etc. Just fire her and do some uncrossings on yourself and your home.
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Original post: Yog-Sothoth
many people from there are quite supersticious i have lived in central and south america, i actually don't think that is brujeria, brujeria is more ceremonial and is practiced generally outdoors and requires other ritual tools. if she's scaring you or something just fire her...
many people from there are quite supersticious i have lived in central and south america, i actually don't think that is brujeria, brujeria is more ceremonial and is practiced generally outdoors and requires other ritual tools. if she's scaring you or something just fire her...
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Original post: Skeptismo118
Has someone been reading Alan Moore's years writing "The Saga of the Swamp Thing?" Or did you go right to "the source" and pick up Chatwick's In Patagonia?
Has someone been reading Alan Moore's years writing "The Saga of the Swamp Thing?" Or did you go right to "the source" and pick up Chatwick's In Patagonia?
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Original post: EtuMalku
Brujeria, Bruja, Bruxa are not a pleasant witches, it is a Shamanistic religion and they are known for using insects, poisonous plants and casting the 'evil eye'. They in conjunction with a Curandero or Kalku are out to collect souls and are nothing but bad news.
Brujeria, Bruja, Bruxa are not a pleasant witches, it is a Shamanistic religion and they are known for using insects, poisonous plants and casting the 'evil eye'. They in conjunction with a Curandero or Kalku are out to collect souls and are nothing but bad news.
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Original post: Venefica
I do not agree. Most followers of this religion are not bad new. Yes they are not the lovey, dovey do no harm witches that Wiccans are, if you piss them of you might get a curse your way. But somone is not bad news just becouse one do not follow the Wiccan rede and practice magick. Most have no interest in harming pepole and just want to go about their affairs in peace.Brujeria, Bruja, Bruxa are not a pleasant witches, it is a Shamanistic religion and they are known for using insects, poisonous plants and casting the 'evil eye'. They in conjunction with a Curandero or Kalku are out to collect souls and are nothing but bad news.
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Original post: EtuMalku
[QUOTE=Venefica;364688]I do not agree. Most followers of this religion are not bad new. Yes they are not the lovey, dovey do no harm witches that Wiccans are, if you piss them of you might get a curse your way. But somone is not bad news just becouse one do not follow the Wiccan rede and practice magick. Most have no interest in harming pepole and just want to go about their affairs in peace.[/QUOTE]
Then you won't mind explaining the dead insects, the chants and the 'evil eye' stares she is doing in their home to them?
This belief system is far removed from any Wiccan Rede, it is more aligned with the Left Hand Side of Santeria, Candomble and Palo Mayombe.
[QUOTE=Venefica;364688]I do not agree. Most followers of this religion are not bad new. Yes they are not the lovey, dovey do no harm witches that Wiccans are, if you piss them of you might get a curse your way. But somone is not bad news just becouse one do not follow the Wiccan rede and practice magick. Most have no interest in harming pepole and just want to go about their affairs in peace.[/QUOTE]
Then you won't mind explaining the dead insects, the chants and the 'evil eye' stares she is doing in their home to them?
This belief system is far removed from any Wiccan Rede, it is more aligned with the Left Hand Side of Santeria, Candomble and Palo Mayombe.
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Original post: Vindictus
Oh, please, not a good-evil theoligy rant.
Etu, if you looked at the previous posts you will notice that most people seem to agree that
A- The housekeeper is probably not a witch... Bitch maybe, but witch no.
B- There are several possible reasons for the dead flies. It isnt necissarily the bruja guys.
Honestly, you sound like a christian in the previous post- 'It doesn't match what I believe, so I'm going to go HORRIBLY JUDGEMENTAL on it!' is NOT an intellegent approach to something you dont understand.
I should probably chide Venifica too just to be fair, but she really hasnt said anything biased one way or another, exept for pretty much dismissing the Bruja as a cause because they 'just wanna be left alone'. As you stated, they would have no problem cursing somebody who annoyed them... So, it is possible that the cause could be a annoyed Bruja.
Oh, please, not a good-evil theoligy rant.
Etu, if you looked at the previous posts you will notice that most people seem to agree that
A- The housekeeper is probably not a witch... Bitch maybe, but witch no.
B- There are several possible reasons for the dead flies. It isnt necissarily the bruja guys.
Honestly, you sound like a christian in the previous post- 'It doesn't match what I believe, so I'm going to go HORRIBLY JUDGEMENTAL on it!' is NOT an intellegent approach to something you dont understand.
I should probably chide Venifica too just to be fair, but she really hasnt said anything biased one way or another, exept for pretty much dismissing the Bruja as a cause because they 'just wanna be left alone'. As you stated, they would have no problem cursing somebody who annoyed them... So, it is possible that the cause could be a annoyed Bruja.
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Original post: EtuMalku
No problem, I've warned Sadt . . . what they do is their business.
Vindictus: exactly what is your experience with this belief system?
And how dare you tell m what I know and don't know? Do we know one another?
No problem, I've warned Sadt . . . what they do is their business.
Vindictus: exactly what is your experience with this belief system?
And how dare you tell m what I know and don't know? Do we know one another?
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Original post: Rick
I agree, I think you should see a blacksmith or a welder right away.
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Sorry, it's the Tourette's, it just comes out...
Venefica;364518 wrote:...you need to get your self to a metal health care professional before you get worse.
I agree, I think you should see a blacksmith or a welder right away.
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Sorry, it's the Tourette's, it just comes out...
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Original post: LoD
Ave,
You had it spot on with the translations actually Etu. Bruja is the Spanish word for witch, thus Brujeria would mean nothing more than witchcraft in my opinion. Whether it is LHP or RHP is not defined as far as I know. Thus, it's simply witchcraft translated into another language Not like, say for instance, Stregheria, which is an actual (Italian) occult path...
Correct me if I'm wrong of course.
Blessings,
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Ave,
You had it spot on with the translations actually Etu. Bruja is the Spanish word for witch, thus Brujeria would mean nothing more than witchcraft in my opinion. Whether it is LHP or RHP is not defined as far as I know. Thus, it's simply witchcraft translated into another language Not like, say for instance, Stregheria, which is an actual (Italian) occult path...
Correct me if I'm wrong of course.
Blessings,
LoD
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Original post: Venefica
Had it been just this tread, sure I could believe somone had an evil witch housekeeper. But this poster have said her sisters are possessed, her parents are possessed to, her housekeeper is an evil witch and the TV send her signs. It is getting a bit much, every demon in the underworld seam to be out to get this girl, and that speak to me of either paranoia or of making things up.
I can not know for sure. No one never can, but I feel that here somone that have a mental illness, she have admitted to that post traumatic stress disorder make insane claims, I think it is inportant not to be so blinded by a faith in the occult that one do not even consider other reasons for an experience.
Have you read the other treads by this poster. She claim everyone around her is possessed and out to get her. I think the dead insects are just insects that have naturally died that happens now and again that she read as something more. I think the chants is either just low talking on the phone or prayers. Many Hispanics do pray more involved than Western pepole do, and the evil stare, anything that be seen as that. Her delusions read anything as proof of possession.Then you won't mind explaining the dead insects, the chants and the 'evil eye' stares she is doing in their home to them?
Had it been just this tread, sure I could believe somone had an evil witch housekeeper. But this poster have said her sisters are possessed, her parents are possessed to, her housekeeper is an evil witch and the TV send her signs. It is getting a bit much, every demon in the underworld seam to be out to get this girl, and that speak to me of either paranoia or of making things up.
I can not know for sure. No one never can, but I feel that here somone that have a mental illness, she have admitted to that post traumatic stress disorder make insane claims, I think it is inportant not to be so blinded by a faith in the occult that one do not even consider other reasons for an experience.
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Original post: Vindictus
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Vindictus: exactly what is your experience with this belief system?
And how dare you tell m what I know and don't know? Do we know one another?[/QUOTE]
None at all. However, I'm not going to assume that 'Lulz they are evilzez' just because they believe different.
Also, I'm sorry if my rant was a bit fervent... A stupid new bus driver dropped me off 5 miles from where I lived, and I had to walk back. So my temper was short, and your post seemed almost accusatory for some reason.
Anyway, no long post 'cause I need to get going... School's about to start.
[QUOTE=EtuMalku;364906]
Vindictus: exactly what is your experience with this belief system?
And how dare you tell m what I know and don't know? Do we know one another?[/QUOTE]
None at all. However, I'm not going to assume that 'Lulz they are evilzez' just because they believe different.
Also, I'm sorry if my rant was a bit fervent... A stupid new bus driver dropped me off 5 miles from where I lived, and I had to walk back. So my temper was short, and your post seemed almost accusatory for some reason.
Anyway, no long post 'cause I need to get going... School's about to start.
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Original post: EtuMalku
[QUOTE=Vindictus;364992]None at all. However, I'm not going to assume that 'Lulz they are evilzez' just because they believe different.
Also, I'm sorry if my rant was a bit fervent... A stupid new bus driver dropped me off 5 miles from where I lived, and I had to walk back. So my temper was short, and your post seemed almost accusatory for some reason.
Anyway, no long post 'cause I need to get going... School's about to start.[/QUOTE]
It is okay, I apologize for jumping down your throat, I forget sometimes that everyone has a life and not just here for my amusement
Venefica: I suppose you are right, the OP did go a bit overboard.
[QUOTE=Vindictus;364992]None at all. However, I'm not going to assume that 'Lulz they are evilzez' just because they believe different.
Also, I'm sorry if my rant was a bit fervent... A stupid new bus driver dropped me off 5 miles from where I lived, and I had to walk back. So my temper was short, and your post seemed almost accusatory for some reason.
Anyway, no long post 'cause I need to get going... School's about to start.[/QUOTE]
It is okay, I apologize for jumping down your throat, I forget sometimes that everyone has a life and not just here for my amusement
Venefica: I suppose you are right, the OP did go a bit overboard.
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Original post: Venefica
I am not saying there can not be something supernatural in the OP's life, but that it seams that she, to say it like we do here in Norway, do not have contact with the ground, she need treatment so she can think clearly so that if there is something supernatural around she can deal with that, and not see it everywhere it is not.
I am so engaged into this case becouse the poster reminds me of me when I was a little girl. I was bullied at school until I had a nervous breakdown. I could see a secret headquarters through the planks in my wall. I was gangsters use our garden as a meeting place. Eventually I just sat on the fridge screaming as I believed our dog had been poisoned and would hurt me. Nothing made sense and I saw things that was not there and attributed it to reality and as time went by more and more got accepted into this madness. Lucky for me it was just a short time psychosis brought on by stress. When I got some bed rest and some months away from school then I got well again, but for me the OP seam to follow the same twisted ways of thinking.
I am not saying there can not be something supernatural in the OP's life, but that it seams that she, to say it like we do here in Norway, do not have contact with the ground, she need treatment so she can think clearly so that if there is something supernatural around she can deal with that, and not see it everywhere it is not.
I am so engaged into this case becouse the poster reminds me of me when I was a little girl. I was bullied at school until I had a nervous breakdown. I could see a secret headquarters through the planks in my wall. I was gangsters use our garden as a meeting place. Eventually I just sat on the fridge screaming as I believed our dog had been poisoned and would hurt me. Nothing made sense and I saw things that was not there and attributed it to reality and as time went by more and more got accepted into this madness. Lucky for me it was just a short time psychosis brought on by stress. When I got some bed rest and some months away from school then I got well again, but for me the OP seam to follow the same twisted ways of thinking.
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Original post: Vindictus
[QUOTE=Venefica;365187] ...she, to say it like we do here in Norway, do not have contact with the ground,... [/QUOTE]
You mean her suspicions are ungrounded? Personally, I agree.
[QUOTE=Venefica;365187]I am so engaged into this case becouse the poster reminds me of me when I was a little girl. I was bullied at school until I had a nervous breakdown. I could see a secret headquarters through the planks in my wall. I was gangsters use our garden as a meeting place. Eventually I just sat on the fridge screaming as I believed our dog had been poisoned and would hurt me. Nothing made sense and I saw things that was not there and attributed it to reality and as time went by more and more got accepted into this madness. Lucky for me it was just a short time psychosis brought on by stress. When I got some bed rest and some months away from school then I got well again, but for me the OP seam to follow the same twisted ways of thinking.[/QUOTE]
Does look that way, doesnt it. Sing along with me-
PA-ra-NOI-a, PA-ra-NOI-a....
Or Maybe the OP is right, and all theese people are out to get her... Is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?
[QUOTE=Venefica;365187] ...she, to say it like we do here in Norway, do not have contact with the ground,... [/QUOTE]
You mean her suspicions are ungrounded? Personally, I agree.
[QUOTE=Venefica;365187]I am so engaged into this case becouse the poster reminds me of me when I was a little girl. I was bullied at school until I had a nervous breakdown. I could see a secret headquarters through the planks in my wall. I was gangsters use our garden as a meeting place. Eventually I just sat on the fridge screaming as I believed our dog had been poisoned and would hurt me. Nothing made sense and I saw things that was not there and attributed it to reality and as time went by more and more got accepted into this madness. Lucky for me it was just a short time psychosis brought on by stress. When I got some bed rest and some months away from school then I got well again, but for me the OP seam to follow the same twisted ways of thinking.[/QUOTE]
Does look that way, doesnt it. Sing along with me-
PA-ra-NOI-a, PA-ra-NOI-a....
Or Maybe the OP is right, and all theese people are out to get her... Is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?
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Original post: Raven43
Well, I agree with Venefica. The 1st place to start, regardless of what's going on, is counseling. When the OP is sure she's seeing everything clearly, then she can look & see if there are still issues occurring outside of herself.
Well, I agree with Venefica. The 1st place to start, regardless of what's going on, is counseling. When the OP is sure she's seeing everything clearly, then she can look & see if there are still issues occurring outside of herself.
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Original post: Jenfucius
No one is wrong here.
Brujeria is just a generic word for witchcraft used in South America. Its almost like saying "occultist".
It could be good. It could be bad. Some practitioners practice only "good" magick. Some practitioners practice only "bad" magick.
Others do a little bit of both. Its neutral.
It all depends on the intent of the practitioner.
No one is wrong here.
Brujeria is just a generic word for witchcraft used in South America. Its almost like saying "occultist".
It could be good. It could be bad. Some practitioners practice only "good" magick. Some practitioners practice only "bad" magick.
Others do a little bit of both. Its neutral.
It all depends on the intent of the practitioner.
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Original post: Venefica
It more means when you have New Agers that take in Spirits in one channel, and Ascended Masters in a second channel and dolphins in a third and tell you they can not go to work to day for they broke a plate cleaning up and it is clearly a sign from the Ascended Masters not to go to work. And they complain they really wanted a particular sweater but they can not buy it for they spilled water on the cataloge it was in and that is clearly a sign from the dolphins not to buy it. Those kind of pepole are what we in Norway say have no contact with the ground.You mean her suspicions are ungrounded? Personally, I agree.
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Original post: Vindictus
Ah, more a 'Head in the clouds' thing then. >_< I hate trying to translate sayings...
Ah, more a 'Head in the clouds' thing then. >_< I hate trying to translate sayings...