Creative Spirituality Suggested Reading
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:27 pm
Original post: Mmothra
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 10:10 AM
This thread is intended for book and article recommendations. When posting, please indicate a brief overview of the subject matter and why you feel it is worth reading.
Thanks!
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Feranaja:
The Sacred Balance, by David Suzuki
Animal Liberation by Peter Singer
For the Time Being; Pilgrim at Tinker Creek; Holy the firm, all by Annie Dillard
Care of the Soul, by Thomas Moore
Anam Cara, and Eternal Echoes,by John O'Donohue
The Mist Filled Path, by Frank McEowen
Reason For Hope, by Jane Goodall
Gaia and God, by Rosemary Radford Ruether
Behaving as if the God in All Life Mattered, by Machaelle Wright Small
Animals as Guides for the Soul, and Animals as Teachers and Healers, both by Susan Chernak McElroy
The Inward Arc by Frances Vaughan
Kindred Spirits by Allen Schoen, DVM
If a Lion Could Talk, by Stephen Budiansky
When Elephants Weep, by Jeffery Masson
The Direct Path, by Andrew Harvey
Waking Up, by Charles Tart
The Road Less Travelled, and People of the Lie, by M. Scott Peck
Becoming Human by Jean Vanier
All of Mathew Fox's works
Full Catastrophe Living, by Jon Kabat-Zinn
Living Buddha, Living Christ; Anger; Peace is Every Step, by Thich Nhat Hanh
All of Ken Wilber's works
The Experience of Insight by Joseph Goldstein
The Soul's Code, and The Force of Character by James Hillman
The Dove in the Stone, Alice Howell
Mind and Nature, Gregory Bateson
All of Alice Miller's works, especially For Your Own Good
Addiction to Perfection, by Marion Woodman
Cosmic Consciousness, by Richard Bucke
That's it for right now.
feranaja
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Nivek:
Here's a few... I included the ISBN #'s so one can find them esier;)
Hyperspace - Michio Kaku ISBN#0-385-47705-8
Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern - Douglas R. Hofstadter ISBN#0-553-34279-7
The Prophet - Kahlil Gibran (Print owned to early for ISBN)
Qigong: Essentials for Health Promotion - Jiao Guorui (Also to early for ISBN)
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Uriel17:
* Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind by Shunryu Suzuki
This is a really beautiful book, by a man who was known for being a beautiful person.
* Miraculous Living by Rabbi Shoni Labowitz
A Qabalistic meditation written by a Reform Judaist Rabbi.
* Essential Spirituality by Roger Walsh
Interactive reading, in other words some Perennial Philosophy and some simple meditation exercises
*The Perennial Philosophy by Aldous Huxley
A great book in comparative religion.
* The Illustrated World's Religions by Huston Smith
A compassionate look at the world's major relgions
* Confucian Spirituality, Volume I edited by Tu Wei Ming and Mary Evelyn Tucker
A look at neo-Confucianism and its discussion of ecology and religion
Thats all I've got right now.
Tim.
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Mach777:
Scripts People Live: Transactional Analysis of Life Scripts
--Claude M. Steiner
"Prerequirement: wake up!"
The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
--Don Miguel Ruiz
"First: remember who you really are"
Prometheus Rising
--Robert Anton Wilson
"Second: remember that you aren't that person either",
The transpersonal vision
--Stanislav Grof
"Third: who are you then?"
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Arkryte:
Here's some books I've enjoyed hanging out with.
After the Ecstasy, the Laundry by Jack Kornfield
Worth it just for the title, but also just a good one to dip into while the washing machine's running.
Awakening Loving Kindness by Pema Chodron
This is a tiny book which I like to keep in my pocket for train journeys to and from stressful places. I must have read it a dozen times through, but it keeps on reminding me of things I've forgotten.
For an intro to one of the more Westernised schools of modern Hinduism, very well written if a little credulous in places, you can read Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi on line for free now:
http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/index.html
(ignore the Order Now link, unless you really want a paper copy, and just click on the chapter titles on the left)
For an individual, modern, and beautifully written spiritual poem to make you glad to be alive (arguably a little sexist at times but in the most constructive possible way) also available free online:
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
http://www.bartleby.com/142/
If you love spirituality but are tired of religion, and would value a beautifully written set of ideas to help you think positively and happily:
Anything by or about J.Krishnamurti.
http://www.kfa.org/
For those who are using psychedelic drugs for spiritual purposes (or thinking about it) or are interested in having their minds blown by Hindu teachings:
Remember: Be Here Now! by Ram Dass.
For people who are ready to start exploring alternatives to cynicism:
Island, by Aldous Huxley
For people who are curently worried about the future, and/or fear that their lives will get worse rather than better:
Creative Visualization, by Shakti Gawain
For people who are worried that there is nobody left in the world doing anything remotely spiritual, here is a listing of intentional communities who would like you to go visit, and maybe join:
http://www.icdb.org
Happy browsing!
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:11 PM
An oooooold but relevant thread I found on Google:
feranaja - Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:40 pm
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What are some of your favourite, most inspiring spiritual texts? Do you draw from mainly explicityl spiritual writings or all sorts of literature?
A few of my own, in no particular order;
The Dove in the Stone, by Alice Howell
Grace and Grit, Ken Wilber (I'm a big fan of KW but as this is a personal story, it has extra emotional impact for me)
Anam Cara, and Eternal Echoes, both by John O'Donohue
Gaia and God, Rosemary Ruether
The Laughter of Aphrodite, Carol Christ
Kindred Spirits, Allen Schoen, DVM
Kinship with all Life, J. Allen Boone
When Elephants Weep, Jeffrey Masson
Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, For the Time Being, and Holy the Firm, all by Annie Dillard
Breakthrough; Meister Eckhart's Creation Spirituality, and A Spirituality named Compassion, both Matthew Fox
Reason For Hope by Jane Goodall
The Sacred Balance by David Suzuki
Woman and Nature by Susan Griffin
all of Dion Fortune's works
The Spiral Dance, Starhawk
The Little Flowers of St. Francis, and The CLoud of Unknowing
What books have made an impact on your life?
feranaja
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Uriel17 - Sat Aug 23, 2003 7:51 pm
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Well I'm having trouble thinking of them, but here's a few.
Demian Herman Hesse
Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind Shunryu Suzuki
The Prophet Kahlil Gibran
Thoughts in Solitude Thomas Merton
I also like Grace and Grit, by Ken Wilber
Tim.
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feranaja - Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:06 pm
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I loved Demian! And I've long wanted to read Zen Mind....if you think that highly of it, I'll be sure to pick up a copy soon.
Wasn't Grace and Grit wonderful? I felt like I knew Treya personally after I read it. It's one death-and-dying book that really stayed with me, vividly, long after I finished it. And KW is a lot more human to me now, too.
NuHad is on a Merton kick lately, I'll have to see if he has the one you recommend, too.
feranaja
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Baphmetis - Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:36 pm
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Leilah Wendell's Our name is Melancholy
Struck a real chord with me as a teenager, and I still read it.
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Uriel17 - Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:33 am
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What I love so much about Zen Mind, Beginners Mind, is that it focuses on the living aspect of experiential spirituality, rather than being a boasting festival about samadhi experiences. The school Suzuki founded is one of the best in the nation, because they do focus on living rather than samadhi.
The focus on spiritual experience is I believe one of Ken Wilber's larger faults. There are many alive, present people who have never had a kensho experience, just as there are those who have had kensho experiences that are a**holes.
It seems to me that its not samadhi that makes the difference but the act of being alive and present in ones life.
Their is also a vein of something else I like in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind, which is a focus on what I would call improvisation, or as the author says it, treating each experience as if it was a new one. I feel that improvisation, or adaptability is a key human quality for living the good life.
Thoughts In Solitude contains some very beautiful short pieces. I especially like the one in the second chapter that begins "God I do not know where I'm going..." At least I think thats how it begins. Merton is incredible, both as a writer and a spiritual person. He's not a perfect man though, so don't get disappointed about some of his personal choices when you read him.
Tim.
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Armitage - Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:55 am
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Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Pirsig. My Gods...the insights this man had on Existence had me laughing out loud on the bus in pure amazement.
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Kevin - Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:09 pm
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is a must read....about twice a year for me. The sequal wasn't as good, but I still think it is worth a read. For me, Illusions by Richard Bach, and The Book by Alan Watts gave me a lot of framework for my beliefs.
Mmothra
06-12-2004, 10:48 AM
A few more from my library:
Book of Lies, edited by Richard Metzger This book, book out by the publishing arm of the Disinfo.com empire is an entertaining and pretty diverse introduction to the Occult as seen by 21st Century libertarian internet entrepreneurs. :-| Seriously, if you can get it on half.com for cheap, it is pretty entertaining and might have some info you haven't gotten elsewhere.
Hidden Wisdom, edited by Richard Smoley and Jay Kinney A collection of essays on the Western Mystery Tradition edited by the former editors of "Gnosis". A very good read.
The Esoteric Tradition (Vols. I & II), by G. dePurucker Well, it's from the Theosophical University Press, so you probably know what to expect. I bought it for the chapters on Astral wildlife (cribbing Robert Bruce's terminology there). Sleep inducing but a nice reference to have around...or use as a doorstop.
Body Mind Spirit: Exploring the Parapsychology of Spirituality, edited by Charles Tart You prolly already know Charles Tart who began his career working with language in dolphins and then moved into consciousness studies, editing the landmark tome on the subject, Altered States of Consciousness. This book is a much slimmer and, unfortunately, slighter book. It does have a few wonderful articles, Tart's own "Who or What Might Survive Death" is a fascinating look at recent studies into this question. Also, his article "On the Scientific Study of Nonphysical Worlds" is terrific but feels like the preface to a MUCH more substantial work--we can hope. "The Parapsychology of God" by Michael Grosso, while unfortunately titled, looks at conceptualizations of deity and manifestation (and very interestingly, biblical accounts of miracles) from the point of view of a modern parapsychologist. This collection is one you want.
That's it for now! More later!
9~6~3
06-20-2004, 10:34 PM
The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe by Lynne McTaggart
I recently finished this book, which addresses quantum physics theory in conjunction with energy fields and working. It's very well written, surprisingly easy to read, and very enlightening. I suggest it to anyone interested in energy manipulation and work.
Son of a Montage
06-22-2004, 09:49 AM
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
I de-recommend this book...
Mmothra
06-22-2004, 09:53 AM
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
I de-recommend this book...
I never cease to be surprised when people love this book. I always though Pirsig was kind of an ass.
Netaungrot
07-05-2004, 01:07 AM
I re-recommend Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, ass or not I thought his attack on rationality was excellent.
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 10:10 AM
This thread is intended for book and article recommendations. When posting, please indicate a brief overview of the subject matter and why you feel it is worth reading.
Thanks!
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Feranaja:
The Sacred Balance, by David Suzuki
Animal Liberation by Peter Singer
For the Time Being; Pilgrim at Tinker Creek; Holy the firm, all by Annie Dillard
Care of the Soul, by Thomas Moore
Anam Cara, and Eternal Echoes,by John O'Donohue
The Mist Filled Path, by Frank McEowen
Reason For Hope, by Jane Goodall
Gaia and God, by Rosemary Radford Ruether
Behaving as if the God in All Life Mattered, by Machaelle Wright Small
Animals as Guides for the Soul, and Animals as Teachers and Healers, both by Susan Chernak McElroy
The Inward Arc by Frances Vaughan
Kindred Spirits by Allen Schoen, DVM
If a Lion Could Talk, by Stephen Budiansky
When Elephants Weep, by Jeffery Masson
The Direct Path, by Andrew Harvey
Waking Up, by Charles Tart
The Road Less Travelled, and People of the Lie, by M. Scott Peck
Becoming Human by Jean Vanier
All of Mathew Fox's works
Full Catastrophe Living, by Jon Kabat-Zinn
Living Buddha, Living Christ; Anger; Peace is Every Step, by Thich Nhat Hanh
All of Ken Wilber's works
The Experience of Insight by Joseph Goldstein
The Soul's Code, and The Force of Character by James Hillman
The Dove in the Stone, Alice Howell
Mind and Nature, Gregory Bateson
All of Alice Miller's works, especially For Your Own Good
Addiction to Perfection, by Marion Woodman
Cosmic Consciousness, by Richard Bucke
That's it for right now.
feranaja
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Nivek:
Here's a few... I included the ISBN #'s so one can find them esier;)
Hyperspace - Michio Kaku ISBN#0-385-47705-8
Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern - Douglas R. Hofstadter ISBN#0-553-34279-7
The Prophet - Kahlil Gibran (Print owned to early for ISBN)
Qigong: Essentials for Health Promotion - Jiao Guorui (Also to early for ISBN)
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Uriel17:
* Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind by Shunryu Suzuki
This is a really beautiful book, by a man who was known for being a beautiful person.
* Miraculous Living by Rabbi Shoni Labowitz
A Qabalistic meditation written by a Reform Judaist Rabbi.
* Essential Spirituality by Roger Walsh
Interactive reading, in other words some Perennial Philosophy and some simple meditation exercises
*The Perennial Philosophy by Aldous Huxley
A great book in comparative religion.
* The Illustrated World's Religions by Huston Smith
A compassionate look at the world's major relgions
* Confucian Spirituality, Volume I edited by Tu Wei Ming and Mary Evelyn Tucker
A look at neo-Confucianism and its discussion of ecology and religion
Thats all I've got right now.
Tim.
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Mach777:
Scripts People Live: Transactional Analysis of Life Scripts
--Claude M. Steiner
"Prerequirement: wake up!"
The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom
--Don Miguel Ruiz
"First: remember who you really are"
Prometheus Rising
--Robert Anton Wilson
"Second: remember that you aren't that person either",
The transpersonal vision
--Stanislav Grof
"Third: who are you then?"
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Arkryte:
Here's some books I've enjoyed hanging out with.
After the Ecstasy, the Laundry by Jack Kornfield
Worth it just for the title, but also just a good one to dip into while the washing machine's running.
Awakening Loving Kindness by Pema Chodron
This is a tiny book which I like to keep in my pocket for train journeys to and from stressful places. I must have read it a dozen times through, but it keeps on reminding me of things I've forgotten.
For an intro to one of the more Westernised schools of modern Hinduism, very well written if a little credulous in places, you can read Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi on line for free now:
http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/index.html
(ignore the Order Now link, unless you really want a paper copy, and just click on the chapter titles on the left)
For an individual, modern, and beautifully written spiritual poem to make you glad to be alive (arguably a little sexist at times but in the most constructive possible way) also available free online:
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
http://www.bartleby.com/142/
If you love spirituality but are tired of religion, and would value a beautifully written set of ideas to help you think positively and happily:
Anything by or about J.Krishnamurti.
http://www.kfa.org/
For those who are using psychedelic drugs for spiritual purposes (or thinking about it) or are interested in having their minds blown by Hindu teachings:
Remember: Be Here Now! by Ram Dass.
For people who are ready to start exploring alternatives to cynicism:
Island, by Aldous Huxley
For people who are curently worried about the future, and/or fear that their lives will get worse rather than better:
Creative Visualization, by Shakti Gawain
For people who are worried that there is nobody left in the world doing anything remotely spiritual, here is a listing of intentional communities who would like you to go visit, and maybe join:
http://www.icdb.org
Happy browsing!
Mmothra
06-11-2004, 05:11 PM
An oooooold but relevant thread I found on Google:
feranaja - Sat Aug 23, 2003 6:40 pm
Post subject: Favourite Spiritual Works
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What are some of your favourite, most inspiring spiritual texts? Do you draw from mainly explicityl spiritual writings or all sorts of literature?
A few of my own, in no particular order;
The Dove in the Stone, by Alice Howell
Grace and Grit, Ken Wilber (I'm a big fan of KW but as this is a personal story, it has extra emotional impact for me)
Anam Cara, and Eternal Echoes, both by John O'Donohue
Gaia and God, Rosemary Ruether
The Laughter of Aphrodite, Carol Christ
Kindred Spirits, Allen Schoen, DVM
Kinship with all Life, J. Allen Boone
When Elephants Weep, Jeffrey Masson
Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, For the Time Being, and Holy the Firm, all by Annie Dillard
Breakthrough; Meister Eckhart's Creation Spirituality, and A Spirituality named Compassion, both Matthew Fox
Reason For Hope by Jane Goodall
The Sacred Balance by David Suzuki
Woman and Nature by Susan Griffin
all of Dion Fortune's works
The Spiral Dance, Starhawk
The Little Flowers of St. Francis, and The CLoud of Unknowing
What books have made an impact on your life?
feranaja
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Uriel17 - Sat Aug 23, 2003 7:51 pm
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Well I'm having trouble thinking of them, but here's a few.
Demian Herman Hesse
Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind Shunryu Suzuki
The Prophet Kahlil Gibran
Thoughts in Solitude Thomas Merton
I also like Grace and Grit, by Ken Wilber
Tim.
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feranaja - Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:06 pm
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I loved Demian! And I've long wanted to read Zen Mind....if you think that highly of it, I'll be sure to pick up a copy soon.
Wasn't Grace and Grit wonderful? I felt like I knew Treya personally after I read it. It's one death-and-dying book that really stayed with me, vividly, long after I finished it. And KW is a lot more human to me now, too.
NuHad is on a Merton kick lately, I'll have to see if he has the one you recommend, too.
feranaja
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Baphmetis - Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:36 pm
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Leilah Wendell's Our name is Melancholy
Struck a real chord with me as a teenager, and I still read it.
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Uriel17 - Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:33 am
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What I love so much about Zen Mind, Beginners Mind, is that it focuses on the living aspect of experiential spirituality, rather than being a boasting festival about samadhi experiences. The school Suzuki founded is one of the best in the nation, because they do focus on living rather than samadhi.
The focus on spiritual experience is I believe one of Ken Wilber's larger faults. There are many alive, present people who have never had a kensho experience, just as there are those who have had kensho experiences that are a**holes.
It seems to me that its not samadhi that makes the difference but the act of being alive and present in ones life.
Their is also a vein of something else I like in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind, which is a focus on what I would call improvisation, or as the author says it, treating each experience as if it was a new one. I feel that improvisation, or adaptability is a key human quality for living the good life.
Thoughts In Solitude contains some very beautiful short pieces. I especially like the one in the second chapter that begins "God I do not know where I'm going..." At least I think thats how it begins. Merton is incredible, both as a writer and a spiritual person. He's not a perfect man though, so don't get disappointed about some of his personal choices when you read him.
Tim.
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Armitage - Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:55 am
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Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Pirsig. My Gods...the insights this man had on Existence had me laughing out loud on the bus in pure amazement.
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Kevin - Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:09 pm
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is a must read....about twice a year for me. The sequal wasn't as good, but I still think it is worth a read. For me, Illusions by Richard Bach, and The Book by Alan Watts gave me a lot of framework for my beliefs.
Mmothra
06-12-2004, 10:48 AM
A few more from my library:
Book of Lies, edited by Richard Metzger This book, book out by the publishing arm of the Disinfo.com empire is an entertaining and pretty diverse introduction to the Occult as seen by 21st Century libertarian internet entrepreneurs. :-| Seriously, if you can get it on half.com for cheap, it is pretty entertaining and might have some info you haven't gotten elsewhere.
Hidden Wisdom, edited by Richard Smoley and Jay Kinney A collection of essays on the Western Mystery Tradition edited by the former editors of "Gnosis". A very good read.
The Esoteric Tradition (Vols. I & II), by G. dePurucker Well, it's from the Theosophical University Press, so you probably know what to expect. I bought it for the chapters on Astral wildlife (cribbing Robert Bruce's terminology there). Sleep inducing but a nice reference to have around...or use as a doorstop.
Body Mind Spirit: Exploring the Parapsychology of Spirituality, edited by Charles Tart You prolly already know Charles Tart who began his career working with language in dolphins and then moved into consciousness studies, editing the landmark tome on the subject, Altered States of Consciousness. This book is a much slimmer and, unfortunately, slighter book. It does have a few wonderful articles, Tart's own "Who or What Might Survive Death" is a fascinating look at recent studies into this question. Also, his article "On the Scientific Study of Nonphysical Worlds" is terrific but feels like the preface to a MUCH more substantial work--we can hope. "The Parapsychology of God" by Michael Grosso, while unfortunately titled, looks at conceptualizations of deity and manifestation (and very interestingly, biblical accounts of miracles) from the point of view of a modern parapsychologist. This collection is one you want.
That's it for now! More later!
9~6~3
06-20-2004, 10:34 PM
The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe by Lynne McTaggart
I recently finished this book, which addresses quantum physics theory in conjunction with energy fields and working. It's very well written, surprisingly easy to read, and very enlightening. I suggest it to anyone interested in energy manipulation and work.
Son of a Montage
06-22-2004, 09:49 AM
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
I de-recommend this book...
Mmothra
06-22-2004, 09:53 AM
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
I de-recommend this book...
I never cease to be surprised when people love this book. I always though Pirsig was kind of an ass.
Netaungrot
07-05-2004, 01:07 AM
I re-recommend Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, ass or not I thought his attack on rationality was excellent.