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I saw a lot of topics here on this site and i began to understand that many of newbies dont make the difference between optical illusions,ideas and objects created by your mind and the real visions.

When u begin to scry ,in the first few minutes u see only optical illusions like dark clouds and fade purple lights
It is normal to happen but this is not clairevoyance.

After another minutes u see pictures of faces and places known or unknown.100% of them are created by your mind.
Try to modify them or change them and u will see that u can.Those are created by your mind.We should not encourage them...It's a waste of time.
The same... it's normal to appear but let them appear and disappear like any other thinks...dont focus on them...


The real visions appear like a picture or movie independent of your will...u cant change it or modify it...


The real signs of vision and practical method of scrying:

1. Chose your object to scry (i prefer scrying mirror in dimm light with candle or light for the moon).
2. Relax and keep in mind that u must have a blank and receptive mind during the scry.
3. Rest your gaze on the surface of the mirror.
4. Dark clouds and fade purple lights appear...there are optical illussions...continue
5. Same known faces and places appear in your mind...treat them like any other think...let them appear and disappear...there are created by your mind...dont focuse on them...continue
6. THE MOST IMPORTANT TIP: Rest your gaze on the surface of the mirror.keep the lazy eyes there...but concentrate on the air between your eyes and the object...the air close front of the object's surface...this is the screen where your third eye will see the visions...
First u will see some lightning spots that appear and disappear in 1-2 sec...good sign...you are on the right way...
You begin to see some faded contours...shadows...flash movies...symbols...good signs too...continue until u see them very still...
On that screen your third eye will begin to see the visions...
It could take days or weeks until u get here...so continue...

Point of remember: Mke the difference between optical illusions,thinks created by your mind and th real visions...

Apologizes for my misspelling...i hope u understood what i mean...

lennoxx wrote:5. Same known faces and places appear in your mind...treat them like any other think...let them appear and disappear...there are created by your mind...dont focuse on them

This is very true. When the mind doesn't understand what the eyes are seeing, it interprets what is seen in familiar symbols (people...etc..). Until the mind develops a point of reference to refer back too...these familiar images will continue to appear at first.

very true. images tend to appear not because you are scrying, but because its in mind s nature to be busy. i took the long way around this and concentrating on Bardon s system. Once you can discipline your mind, it s easyer to pursue scrying. Still, very helpful advices. People tend to take for granted all the things they see in a crystaleven if it s from their own psyche, and so we have a lot of famous people "incarnated" like that. At least 3 dousins Crowleys, 8 John Dees and 6 Cleopatras

I would actually like to respectfully elucidate upon and/or disagree with points 2, 3 & 6 if I may?

2) I believe that you should especially in the early days have a firm purpose when attempting to scry,having a clear mind and mindless scrying are two completely different kettles of fish, I recommend this firstly because if for example you have the concept of, oh I dunno being shown the meaning of the temperance card (just throwing an example off the top of my head), you can after the exercise test what you have "seen" by looking up what you have seen in say 777 or other book of correspondence, this takes the "imagination" out of your image.

Secondly, absent minded, purposeless scrying opens a door for just about anything to "feed" the image, not everything is going to actually give you a valid image and not everything out there see reality the way you do, ergo, their truth may not be part of our reality, oh and lets not forget, you can draw things through dark mirrors, not something you would want to do necessarily by accident.

All of the above of course is only relevant if you believe that scrying is a medium for accessing other things that give you the images, if you think it is an inherent psychic ability your mileage may vary.

3) I would not focus on the surface of the mirror, unless you are naturally born with "the sight" your not actually going to mundanely "see" a jot, it is an inner eye vision, approach it a bit like the "seeing eye" posters that used to be so popular a few years ago, look past the surface and focus on a point say 10cms inside your chosen scrying medium, which need not be an object at all, Ive had interesting results with both black treacle and red wine for example.

6) THE MOST IMPORTANT TIP: as you aren't actually using your eyes to see, staring intently is not necessary, so remember to BLINK! dry eyes are not comfortable and can lead to scratches, which I can assure you is not just uncomfy, it is downright painful.

I would have to agree with Nevyn on those points. Very well put! Great thread though... Any other tips? I have been preparing myself to start furthering my scrying/divining abilities and would love to hear any helpful tips.

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