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This group is a movement, a rebellion against those who seek to control us whether they be of this planet or not. A movement for change in our lives and in our world.

It is a movement against those in our governments and cities who seek to control you. What has your government done for you today? What have they done for you recently? How many of the promises that your president/ruler made when he came into power did he actually make good on?

When is the last time that you ate healthy food untouched by various chemicals? When is the last time you drank healthy water untouched by various chemicals?

Do you know someone that needs to be healed?

Is there a specific cause you want to fight for but you never knew how?

These are just a few of the questions that address some of the issues we face here.

With our sister group The Order of The Black Delta (http://fraterhabilus.proboards.com/inde ... oard=ootbd), The Right Order of The Neon Knights is here to not only address those issues but also to address magick related problems such as beings who attack us or friends of us, people we know or who are friends that are in need of healing, beings that try to control us. I am sure that most of us have had experiences with beings such as these, humans and/or not.

WE SHALL FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND WHAT IS RIGHTLY OURS! WE SHALL FIGHT FOR OUR LIVES AND OUR SOULS! WE SHALL FIGHT TO BETTER OURSELVES AND BECOME THE BEST WE CAN BE!

This is what the Neon Knights stand for. We exist to help heal our world and get rid of the hypocrisy and "evils" that surround us. We exist because we aren't afraid to fight for ourselves and for our rights. We exist because we aren't afraid to fight with our magicks, to fight with all our abilities for what we deserve.

If anyone is interested in joining this group, this rebellion, you are more than welcome to but you have to be prepared to fight tooth and nail for what you want and you have to be prepared to use all your magicks and all your abilities to achieve your/our dreams and goals.

Spread the message! Go to every Occult Forum that you are on and post this message there. Get every occultist that you know and tell them to join this group and join our revolution! Go to your facebook and myspace pages and invite every occultist that you know!


Forum Address:
http://neonknights.ipbfree.com

Also join our Facebook and MySpace groups:
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I welcome you Neon Knights to the fight of your lives! I welcome you Neon Knights to your future!

That's from Serial Experiments: Lain, isn't it?

I'll check it out.

Erm... your sister site appears to be a Left Hand Path group. Not that I'm going to discriminate against LHPers, but... well, apart from a few lines about "healing others" and "fighting for causes", you're essentially telling everyone to join a group to fight for themselves.

We're already fighting for ourselves, with or without you pulling the chains.

This just looks like another small time attempt at a power-mongering order, done significantly less professionally than the old boy orders that already exist.

Actually it comes from an old Black Sabbath song Dr Mummy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-4E-sGbig[/youtube]

Vinncent wrote:Erm... your sister site appears to be a Left Hand Path group. Not that I'm going to discriminate against LHPers, but... well, apart from a few lines about "healing others" and "fighting for causes", you're essentially telling everyone to join a group to fight for themselves.

We're already fighting for ourselves, with or without you pulling the chains.

This just looks like another small time attempt at a power-mongering order, done significantly less professionally than the old boy orders that already exist.

Yes the forum itself is a Left Hand Path group but the "Order of the Black Delta" isn't specifically Left Hand Path though they have some Left Hand Path ideals. I personally appreciate some of their ideals which is why they are my "sister group", I give them credit for the information I quote. All in all, whether they are a Left Hand Path orientated group doesn't matter because I do not cater to only Left Hand Path orientated people. I appreciate the input of both RHP and LHP orientated occultists.

Why bother posting if you aren't interested? You are more than welcome to naturally I just don't see why you would waste your time with something you aren't interested in. So you're fighting for yourself already then? And how much exactly have you achieved by fighting for yourself? I am not exactly telling people to fight for themselves, what I am trying to do is get a bunch of occultists to work together to "fight" for themselves and for other people and certain causes of their choice.

Power mongering? Why would I try and do that? If I were trying to do something like that I would do it better. I am merely trying to get people to work together for change. If we can do it then why the hell not? How many times do you actually see people coming together to change things? How many occultists have you seen get together for change? How many occultists actually use their abilities for change? Granted, certain people are restricted by their beliefs but if they are not interested they do not need to feel pressured to join something like this. Oh and I am not exactly "pulling the chains" the people are going to make their own decisions and make the changes themselves, I am only there to do the same thing. I am merely the person going through the effort to get people together.

agree with vinncent, here. Except for the idealistic part, what are the methods of fighting? How specifficaly do you wish to change things? Do you have reprezentatives in the administrative or judicial system that can overturn the systems from the inside? You ll have to remember why there is a certai ammount of control in the world, and that it has nothing to do with personal freedom. It s a natural way of governing since time immemorial, despite all movements meant to overtrow a reign or another.

Still, i wish you luck with the Order. I think this would have to be an acephalich order, without a leader. If it does have a leader, posibly you, you do nothing else but replace the controll source.

Regardless of what your intentions are, whatever it is that you're trying to accomplish here takes significantly more thought than throwing up a cheap message board and telling everyone to join it. The smallest amount of foresight will yield this. Though, I think Asterion hit most of those points.

I'm posting because I've often thought how the world is lacking an easily accessible magickal order dedicated to world aid, and how it could be set up to not simply become yet another self-centered "mystery school", or simply fail, which are the only two directions I can honestly see this going in with such a lack of preparation.

If you only wanted positive feedback, then you wouldn't know what to fix.

Vinncent wrote:Regardless of what your intentions are, whatever it is that you're trying to accomplish here takes significantly more thought than throwing up a cheap message board and telling everyone to join it. The smallest amount of foresight will yield this. Though, I think Asterion hit most of those points.

I'm posting because I've often thought how the world is lacking an easily accessible magickal order dedicated to world aid, and how it could be set up to not simply become yet another self-centered "mystery school", or simply fail, which are the only two directions I can honestly see this going in with such a lack of preparation.

If you only wanted positive feedback, then you wouldn't know what to fix.

Well I'm sorry that I'm not perfect and that my idea isn't perfect but what do you suggest I do then? If you can do it better then you do it.

I am not giving up though because I believe my idea will work despite pugnacious posts such as yours. Thank you for your input though Vinncent, you are 100% correct that I won't know what to fix if I only got positive feedback.

Asterion wrote:agree with vinncent, here. Except for the idealistic part, what are the methods of fighting? How specifficaly do you wish to change things? Do you have reprezentatives in the administrative or judicial system that can overturn the systems from the inside? You ll have to remember why there is a certai ammount of control in the world, and that it has nothing to do with personal freedom. It s a natural way of governing since time immemorial, despite all movements meant to overtrow a reign or another.

Still, i wish you luck with the Order. I think this would have to be an acephalich order, without a leader. If it does have a leader, posibly you, you do nothing else but replace the controll source.

Let me put it like this, see it as an experiment to see what a lot of occultists can achieve if they all get together. I believe that we can achieve quite a lot if we all put our talents and abilities together.

I am not suggesting we overthrow the governments or march in the streets demanding change, I am merely suggesting we use what we are best at, our magicks.

I understand what you mean with the leader part and I agree, I am not interested in being it's leader. There is nothing to gain out of superficial "power". My plan is merely to get the Order working and standing on it's own. The people who are part of the Order will lead it themselves which is entirely possible with the right system. I'll just admin the forum with some other people who are willing to do the job.

Thank you for your post Asterion.

any speciffic group asuming change and power to do so will undoubtably become a hotbed of egotistical powertripps, all the more dangerous than the former organisations. Last time some group tried this it was in Nazi Germany, and their ways were alltogether occult related. The matter that they were evil or good, patriotic or antisemit, seems just a matter of perception. Then there woud be the French revolution, supported by freemasonic factios. Or the Hashishim s killing sprees under the command of The Ol Guy of the Mountain... Can t remember were a "good" bunch of magicians gathered together did something truely positive and did not bring about traumatic social and political changes last time around. They all thought they were doing the right thing.


Please tell me, what are the speciffic aims of this order?

I believe I can, and I already have been working on putting something together.

Asterion wrote:any speciffic group asuming change and power to do so will undoubtably become a hotbed of egotistical powertripps, all the more dangerous than the former organisations. Last time some group tried this it was in Nazi Germany, and their ways were alltogether occult related. The matter that they were evil or good, patriotic or antisemit, seems just a matter of perception. Then there woud be the French revolution, supported by freemasonic factios. Or the Hashishim s killing sprees under the command of The Ol Guy of the Mountain... Can t remember were a "good" bunch of magicians gathered together did something truely positive and did not bring about traumatic social and political changes last time around. They all thought they were doing the right thing.


Please tell me, what are the speciffic aims of this order?

Lol. I agree with what you say Asterion. The egotistical powertrips will inevitably appear but I think it is just handling them as they come along that is important. I had my egotistical powertrip and got over it

You are correct, the positiveness of the intentions of the people who will be participating in the order depends on their perception of it.

The aims of this Order are to make a change in the world, in our worlds by using magick as the tool for change. The idea is to target small but noticeable problems first and see what the results are and move on to bigger problems and such. Healing people is just a suggestion for one of the things we can do because I imagine that if the members know of people that need to be healed they will want a group of healers to help this person. Does this make more sense?

Vinncent wrote:I believe I can, and I already have been working on putting something together.

Awesome. Well if you manage to put together something better I'll gladly support it

Personally Cran, I get the feeling you're not exactly sure what you're doing, so you act like you do got an idea, but really you're just guessing.

Strip of the the insubstantial! Run headlong into nonsense and bring back as many souvenirs as you can!

You'll only make change when you start having accidents on purpose.

That one was free, the next piece of advice will cost you the color of your hair...

or your earliest memory.

DrMummy wrote:Personally Cran, I get the feeling you're not exactly sure what you're doing, so you act like you do got an idea, but really you're just guessing.

Strip of the the insubstantial! Run headlong into nonsense and bring back as many souvenirs as you can!

You'll only make change when you start having accidents on purpose.

That one was free, the next piece of advice will cost you the color of your hair...

or your earliest memory.

Dr Mummy, I know very well what I am doing but whether you believe me or not is none of my concern.

I don't need your advice but thank you for the offer anyway.

If you're not interested in it then why waste your time replying here? To waste mine? Well if that is the case you successfully managed to do that.

please be more speciffic of its aims and modus operandi. It is all we are asking, and please do not be offended that we are curious to know more about something so imprecisely formulated.
its like saying: hey people, you wanna get dowwwn??? Get down to what? Why are u asking such a question, do you not want to get down?

get to the point. lets talk.

Asterion wrote:please be more speciffic of its aims and modus operandi. It is all we are asking, and please do not be offended that we are curious to know more about something so imprecisely formulated.
its like saying: hey people, you wanna get dowwwn??? Get down to what? Why are u asking such a question, do you not want to get down?

get to the point. lets talk.

Well what do you want to know other than what I already said? I'm not trying to convince you to join. I don't gain anything out of this and it certainly isn't a cult or anything along those lines.

As I said before, this a is a movement, a rebellion if you want. It's for like minded occultists to get together and use all their abilities and magicks to try and make changes.

I just figured I can't be the only one who wants change so why not get a lot of people together who are interested and let us work together to change the things we feel that needs change.

I'm sorry, you're essentially saying, "Let's get together and do whatever the hell we feel like."

What do you want to change? Why do you want to change them? What do you want to change them into? What is this a movement for, or against? What are you rebelling against?

If the answer to all of these is "Whatever we feel like", then of all the powerful and influential occult orders already in existence, with a -purpose- or -aim- nonetheless, what is the point of this?

Vinncent wrote:I'm sorry, you're essentially saying, "Let's get together and do whatever the hell we feel like."

What do you want to change? Why do you want to change them? What do you want to change them into? What is this a movement for, or against? What are you rebelling against?

If the answer to all of these is "Whatever we feel like", then of all the powerful and influential occult orders already in existence, with a -purpose- or -aim- nonetheless, what is the point of this?

Boy, you don't seem very bright. How many times do I have to explain a thing before you get it?

I'll explain it again. The purpose of this Order is to change problems we face in our life. I don't have specific problems in mind because it is up to the members of the order to decide what they want to change in their lives, what they think is important. So far there are 4 main areas that we will address problems in and I'll add more as the demand grows. Those 4 areas of discussion are: Politics, Healing, Nature and the fighting/warrior faction for those who want to use aggressive magicks to make change. It is a rebellion against those who wish to take our freedom away, it is a rebellion for freedom. Why freedom you say? Well can you honestly say that you are completely 100% free? It isn't about "whatever we feel like" I never said anything like that and you're just twisting my words. As I said it is about what the members of the Order want but it is about strategically deciding what to do and how to do it. I take the strengths and weaknesses of each member and decide what their role should be in a project according to what role would be best suited for them. They choose in which areas they want to focus of course.

Is this better? Do you understand now?