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In desperate need of body swapping...im not interested in people telling me its not possible..or that its only in movies.
I live in a world were the impossible does happen and I just want to hear from anyone who is connected enough to get me
results. Thank you

And why are you in desperate need of that? Just to prove that it's possible? It takes a skilled magician to do that and if you were one you would not needed to ask how. Forget any step by step ritual that will make it happen. And if someone else is part of this on their own free will they have to be skilled enough too. Those that are not, they will unconsiously defend themself and their unconsious defence is stronger than they know and what you are aware of. Forcing one self on others without their approval will create problems and have risks. And if you can't figure out what they are, you should not even think of doing it if the other one is no tvoluntary. And I am strongly against any forcing one self on others without their approval. But even doing it with other voluntary can cause some problems too. Not as much as if they are not voluntary. And again you have to know what the risks are here too before even considering doing it.

No, Gandridur I am not a magician by any means. I would never force myself upon anyone, it is not in my nature. I have a few people who Ive been talking to who are interested. I am asking to find someone that has the ability, expertise so that they can inform me of all the risks, complications and possible outcomes.I am not looking for secrets, just help in accomplishing it. Believe me I am not jumping into this willy-nilly.I have given it much thought. I want to know all the probabilities before doing so.
I have no ill intentions, nothing is wrong with me and I have no malicious intents. It is a matter of the heart that I do not wish to disclose publically.

Baleiric wrote:In desperate need of body swapping...im not interested in people telling me its not possible..or that its only in movies.
I live in a world were the impossible does happen and I just want to hear from anyone who is connected enough to get me
results. Thank you

Body swapping and shapeshifting are without question the most fascinating aspect of the occult for me. Anything involving transformational (including gender) magick is something I always pay close attention to.

However, that being said, "being connected" won't get you results. Sure, nothing is impossible, but if it was that easy for people to switch bodies to any appreciable extent or engage in serious shapeshifting, well the metaphorical cat would be out of the literal bag so to speak.

Physical shapeshifting/genderswapping to an appreciable extent is (though I hate to say it), pretty much impossible. I leave open the possibility, but nevertheless I have heard/read/experienced nothing significant regarding it and in keeping with a somewhat logical mindset (as much as we wish to discard it), then yeah... Astral shapeshifting though can be equally as amazing and vivid, though less solid obviously and more transient and malleable in nature.

Body swapping though seems to be discussed by a few in the occult milieu. "Soul transference" as it can be termed seems to have some astral routes as possibilities and seems to work better for people who agree upon the conditions and consent to it. Though I have heard it can be rather dangerous, afford only a brief amount of time in the person, and can be karmically damaging (if you believe in that stuff at all). Possessing others sounds fascinating and sort of possible as well. One particularly intriguing method was mentioned in Liber Null and termed the Black Rite, though details were contained in solely a couple sentences much to my chagrin.

Anyway, enough theorizing and pontificating, if you want results then seek them out through yourself. I don't want to diminish any power of belief you may have (that power can create magick very easily and helps enormously), but it's really all about what you can do for you and not what others can give to you. If body swapping interests you, at the very least practice lucid dreaming techniques and then take on whatever form you wish in the astral. To say it can be an awesome experience is an understatement, I often feel astral sex, drugs, and experiences can be more inspiring then anything this plane has to offer. With enough skills at entering altered states and at astral travel, you can then experiment removing people from their body. Sounds fun, doesn't it?

Xion....I'd love to talk if you have the time. Fun? Its not entertainment Im trying to attain. But that did make me smile.

you might want to look into both "walk ins" and "possession" as side topics and general resource info related to 'body swap'.

I believe this is possible and I understand why there would be no record of this ever happening. Because of the physical (the mind) and non-physical (the soul) repercussions. I understand that if you do this by means of astral projection, you must physically die to inhabit another's body. But the soul is a separate entity in itself. Even if you were able to do this, your soul is not a collection of experiences and beliefs recorded by the matter in your brain. Your soul is simply the energy that you emit, the essence of who you are. Any memory of the mind wishing to swap bodies with another person would not exist. A soul would never ask to belong elsewhere. A mind would.