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I have only been able to induce trance a few times in my life. When I do have spiritual contacts their very subtle there like murmers and they occur randomly. Like the stuff with this whole "William Iron Fist Thing"
and the other hordes of people.....Sunday night I had two shadow figures over my bed one was triangle like a little dog i stared at it and it made little puppy noises and jumped another was a silloute that looked familiar to some other musician I like. The silloute of this man disappeared after a while.
Everything comes randomly since I have been letting blood and telling spirits my desires.
I WANT to mediate so I can know what the hell is going on. They mean no harm and the triangle shadow being
seemed submissive and had an adorable nature.
But I have a problem. I have Attention Deficed Disorder. I really do. I have been thoroughly diagnosed by professionals i'm not just one of those people who say they do. It's so bad that my mother is considering Ritalin. How can you meditate and study magick when you can't consintrate and forget what your doing all the time and can't sit still? I have an appointment tomorrow about this so I'm OK. Sometimes I can concentrate like I read a chapter on channeling yesterday from a book.

Any safe herbs or something I can take?
Can dancing to music be a way of "meditating?"

The blood Magick works becuase my passions, ambition, empathy for certain spirits, emotions and desires are so strong but I need to find some other way to make contact with my guide "Iron Fist" cause he's kind of warping personality, morals and views. I think thats what blood binding letters and spells do. I need to contact Iron Fist other ways......he'll be upset and angry if I do any drugs though.....I'm too inexperienced to be using blood. I get good things from William Iron fist but backfires as well.......

So If there are other ways to contact these things that don't require sitting still?
I was considering going to a hypno therapist or spiriualist but I'm worried they will rip me off
like some of those fortune tellers and astrologers. Thats why I go my own way and am not interested in any circles or covens. There are plenty of that stuff where I live. A lot Of Wicca groups but I like to be around people who are secretive about what they do and are more into personal power and knowledge than making money and having friends. everyone here is so open about it! They go on the roof tops and scram
"IM AN OCCULTIST" these New age folk...uhghh There good people but doesn't "occult" mean SECRET?

HI there, I have ADD as well. Sitting still and pondering things doesn't work well for us. Have you heard of excitatory gnosis? its a term from chaos magic where a trance state can be obtained by working oneself up into a frenzy of sorts. ive used dancing, push-ups and simple running til exhaustion to great effect. ive noticed that once im exhausted from these activities my mind is very clear, so i get my meditating while i sit and rest afterwards. maybe someone with more experience than myself can elaborate.

I agree with you doing your own thing though. rely on your own intuition. i bought a pack of tarot cards and tossed the book. instead concentrating on my own interpretations of the symbology. you should do something similar.

"excitatory gnosis" thankyou i'll try that. I should frenzy myself while listining to my music.
I've actually done it before but I didn't think it would qualify as meditating.
I listend to Iggy Pop and danced to it than I sat there with a note pad and I went into a psychotic state
and was told to find rytming words and verses for a song while I had a presence hanging over me There it was......Totally something this entity would write. I did make a deal saying he could use my poety skills
if he gave me guitar skills. I think I will keep doing this. Thank you.

ugggg....It's those hippie people....I think mainstream paganism is used to give us false information.