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I wasn't sure where to post this, so I'm going to post it here.
This story is something I don't expect you to believe, and honestly, I find myself not believing this story either. I see the "logical" rationalizations, that maybe I had a mental problem, or something from my not-so-nice past was fueling my imagination. So, I am just going to share my super natural story. Maybe I'm not the only one.

I have to start this story all the way back at the beginning.

When I was 14 years old, my aunt died. At the funeral, my uncle's sister (not blood related), approached me, telling me that I was to soon be visited by an angel. I honestly thought she was a complete quack for saying that. That was the first time I had ever met her, and she was nothing more than a stranger to me, a rather strange stranger. I remember that vibe I got from her, that something was wrong with her. (I've received this vibe from many other people but that's a story for another time.) I told my mother what she said that later that day, mostly because it bothered me. She then told me about my uncle's sister's past. She was a faith healer. She believed that she could make large prayer circles to heal people and she had also believed that she was receiving messages from god through her dreams. Strangely enough, she predicted my aunt's death, conscience or not. But I still didn't believe her. It didn't help that out of the two prayer circles I had seen, she wasn't able to heal anyone. She was just a strange stranger. But this strange stranger was right. I was visited. A week later I felt a strong presence. At the time, I didn't believe in angels, demons, or even ghosts. I barely believed in god and I wasn't saved by Jesus Christ. I started to believe I was sick, or my body was acting strange so I ignored it. But the more I seemed to ignore it, the stronger the presence nagged at me, until roughly several weeks later I did something about it.

It was almost natural, maybe even instinctual; but I let the presence in. I could not see "her", or touch "her", but I felt "her". This being, that was... well, inside me I assume. There was no eyes rolling in the back of my head, no head spinning, thrown to the ground or barfing up any pea soup. "she" just spoke, using my own mouth to me. In a sense, she possessed me. She took over my body, a spoke through my mouth in a woman's voice.

She told me she was a guardian angel sent down to protect me. I asked her for a name, she told me she had no name. I gave her a name that night. Though over the weeks, that named changed, and eventually I ended up giving her the name of Lauren, who was the name of a very old childhood friend. For over 6 years I've known Lauren. Many philosophical discussions were spoke over those six years. There were many questions she would not answer, and even still, she seemed to always have an excuse for why she couldn't tell me certain things. I wasn't allowed to know information about the physical world I didn't already know. So "scrying" or "divination" of the sort were not allowed. She wouldn't tell me answers to tests but she would tell me strange insight on things. We mostly talked about moral choices and worldly views.

I asked her one night what she was doing to protect me. She told me that she was protecting me from the demons of the outside world. I then asked her, "if I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, and I have the power of the Holy spirit, then why do I need protecting? What is out that that can hurt me?". She said "Demons."
I did a lot of research. I used every tool at my disposal, spending hours reading Hebrew texts and spending years learning and understanding the bible and even the Qur'an. I read everything I could get my hands on. I wanted to know about demons, but what was more interesting, is that I wanted to know about angels. Things got worse, the more I researched. I started feeling more and more presences, and the more I filled my mind with knowledge, the stronger these feelings became. I kept asking more questions to Lauren. I wasn't satisfied with any of the answers she was giving me, and I started to have my doubts about her; Til one day I decided I wasn't going to let Lauren posses me any more. I wasn't going to let her talk to me. I found myself at work (by the way I work a deli), having an asthma attack, which by the way, I don't have asthma. I got extremely sick, almost like a withdraw.

Weeks went by and I was missing work and I was losing focus on life. I went into work one day and started checking inventory in my back cooler. Frustrated at my lack of concentration I decided to answer the strong presence I was feeling. This time it wasn't Lauren, it was someone else. It was a "man" this time. He bit hard on my tongue when he spoke, and with an accent like an Englishmen. He told me all of his pains and sorrows, that he was cast down to earth for his sin. He was mad, angry, and he possessed me. I was showing feats of near super human strength, throwing things I wasn't normally strong enough to throw. He wasn't the only one that possessed me that day. It reminded me of the story of Jesus: casting out the legion of demons out of the man unto the pigs. There had to be hundreds of them speaking to me, speaking THROUGH me. They all were jealous of me, because these weren't angels, these were fallen angels. Demons, literally. I had felt a heart break so strong, I collapsed on the floor, crying so hard. I felt the pain of these fallen angels, and the weight of their sorrow was unbearable. Lauren wasn't there to save me.
I honestly don't wish to speak any more on this part of the story because it upsets me. I'm emotionally distrot right now, maybe I can elaborate more when I'm in a more calm state of mind.

[deep breath]

I was rushed to the hospital that night with a dislocated shoulder. That very night changed me forever.

After a few weeks, still feeling the pain, I tried something. I tried a ritual. I didn't do any research, I didn't ask anyone for help. I lit some kosher candles, made a star of David with a red marker, and prayed to god. I burned 500 dollars in cash as an offering and asked him to cover the veil. I don't know of the ritual was necessarily, but I wanted my god to know, that I was sincere in my prayer. I wanted protection, real protection. And from that day forth, I have been demon free. I've been everything free. Just, free. Protected.

I often find myself thinking if any of this was real. If maybe I made it up, or maybe I went insane. The mind is a powerful organ. If it is or isn't, oh well. What ever happened that night I prayed I became cured. And now I'm just so happy to be "normal" again.

Thank you for reading. I had to tell someone this. So thank you again for letting me post.

That's an interesting story. Remember that feeling that she was a complete quack? That was your better sense. I think this is a case of aura poisoning. Luckily you did a pretty good ritual. There is a lot of magick in money because people believe that money is valuable and so therefore it is. I don't know if I would have burned that much If you ever meet her again and she hasn't changed then put up a psychic shield or just imagine a wall between yourself and her and keep contact to a minimum. She sounds like a vessel or bridge for a negative spiritual infestation... a dummy that doesn't understand magick properly. Any more advanced members care to audit what I just said?

catboydale wrote: I often find myself thinking if any of this was real. If maybe I made it up, or maybe I went insane. The mind is a powerful organ. If it is or isn't, oh well. What ever happened that night I prayed I became cured. And now I'm just so happy to be "normal" again.

Thank you for reading. I had to tell someone this. So thank you again for letting me post.

I'm glad you are at peace now.

You are fine to post whatever you want to on the forum,anytime. We only get rid of spam and /or extreme/illegal content.

I've heard very similar stories to yours,from more than a few folk I know,they vary some in content,but all describe corresponding events with yours.

I liked you post Akimbomoss; 'aura poisoning',sounds about right to me.

You can analyse this story psychologically too,it may be percieved as a trick of the mind,but whether mind or magick or metaphysics,it seems you had an intense time of it and no doubt that which did not kill you, has left you stronger and wiser and more wary.

akimbomoss wrote:hat's an interesting story. Remember that feeling that she was a complete quack? That was your better sense. I think this is a case of aura poisoning.

I've felt these feeling before, and I know other's who've felt it too. I've never heard it called aura poisoning before. I wouldn't really know if she poisoned me or not, but it wasn't the only time I had felt the "vibe". I knew a woman who practiced witchcraft at my work. She gave me that same vibe. We had talked several times because I was versed in Demonology, so I guess we kind of had something in common, and I had always felt so awkward around her. Reminded me of that same feeling, that "Got to get away" feeling. She had the vibe. She told me that she practiced magicks that involved connecting with fairies. Whatever these fairies were, I had a feeling they just weren't good. There were a lot of signs this woman showed that just didn't sit well with me, so I just did my best to avoid her.

But I've met a few others who had given me that vibe. No offense to anyone here, but most of those people who had given me the "vibe" were people who practiced magick. I often fear for the safety of others, and from my experiences with the supernatural, I know that there are things out there that just aren't safe. I am aware that there are things out there man/woman was just not meant to dabble in. Magick, I'm sure, can be a risky business in the hands of the wrong people. I've never practiced magick in my life and I still ended up in a world of hurt, I don't want someone going through my nightmare again, whether it was demon possession or my own mind attacking me or whatever it may be. I pray people be careful.

Thankfully, I haven't felt any more vibes, nor have I felt any more presences. I have a lot of faith, and I'm grateful for that.

Nahemah wrote:...no doubt that which did not kill you, has left you stronger and wiser and more wary.

True.

Aura poisoning is an interesting term to describe such vibes.I have some significant experience with similar vibes but on the other end of the equation.Quite literally anyone I get within a certain distance of reports a similar sensation to what you describe.Generally people avoid eye contact with me as well.Even otherwise spiritually oblivious people feel unnerved by me and have mentioned that something simply feels wrong and ominous about me.I have taken notice that my "aura poisoning" seems to take a step past the boundaries you defined and causes actual harm as well.The more prolonged the exposure the more profound the ailments become.It effects smaller life forms a lot faster but even larger life forms like human beings suffer from the effects as well though at a slower rate.You can literally watch the health decline in those I associate with the more they interact with me.On the bright side this does make an excellent method of pest control.

Now that aside regarding your possession I assume they were likely of low rank and status seeing as there were multiple demons and they let you off the hook so easily.Even a single greater demon could have caused you a lot more harm.Well aside from Belphegore.He's too unmotivated to pose much threat honestly.I swear the only reason he does any work is to find a way to be able to do less.

Anyway under any circumstance you should not automatically assume that just because an entity happens to be an angel , even if they are not fallen , that they have your best interests in their desires as often they don't.

Belial wrote:Now that aside regarding your possession I assume they were likely of low rank and status seeing as there were multiple demons and they let you off the hook so easily.Even a single greater demon could have caused you a lot more harm.

Possibly. The situation was so difficult, I was unable to tell. But I'm pretty positive they didn't want me dead. They did a lot of damage to me. It's taken me a long to recover from this event. I've lost a lot in the last 3 years, and I know that this pain they implanted in me, is a burden I will carry for the rest of my life. Which is ultimately why I am here on this site now, to tell the world my story. As far as my experiences are concerned, the supernatural realm, what lies beyond the veil, is a unfriendly place. And I pray, that I never go back to that dark place again. Which is why I warn people, demons aren't a joke. No mater what strength, or what rank. They can deceive, claiming that they are angels of the lord. Even claiming to be guardian angels. I hope others learn from me before things like this happen to good people.

Belial wrote:Well aside from Belphegore.He's too unmotivated to pose much threat honestly.I swear the only reason he does any work is to find a way to be able to do less.

Hahahaha. ^____^

Belial wrote:Aura poisoning is an interesting term to describe such vibes.I have some significant experience with similar vibes but on the other end of the equation.Quite literally anyone I get within a certain distance of reports a similar sensation to what you describe.Generally people avoid eye contact with me as well.Even otherwise spiritually oblivious people feel unnerved by me and have mentioned that something simply feels wrong and ominous about me.I have taken notice that my "aura poisoning" seems to take a step past the boundaries you defined and causes actual harm as well.The more prolonged the exposure the more profound the ailments become.It effects smaller life forms a lot faster but even larger life forms like human beings suffer from the effects as well though at a slower rate.You can literally watch the health decline in those I associate with the more they interact with me.On the bright side this does make an excellent method of pest control.

I have always been interested in this vibe. Though, I can't say I've noticed death, or sickness. But then again, I attempt to avoid these people as much as possible, no offense. I was always curious, what causes this "vibe". Are you literally poisoned by a super natural force? Are you working with magicks or communicating with beings you aren't supposed to? I am not calling you out on anything, so please take no offense for I am only curious about this vibe. The avoiding of eye contact and the unnerving feeling are all very much true. I know I've felt and done those things.

An interesting question comes to mind... would you want to cleanse yourself of this "poison"?

You know I don't want to take away from your experiences, your beliefs, or how you think about what happened to you, but I have a different take that I think is worth considering.

It sounds as though you was a "medium" for spirits. Basically you are able to be a conduit that allows others to communicate with you and others on this side of the veil. Also, Lauren, as you called her, regardless of who she was, she was basically blocking the others from coming through by being the one using you. The cock-block of the spirit world. There many motivations as to why she would do this, but I'm partially inclined to think she did it at your request for the purpose of allowing you to grow up and slowly deal with your ability.

It wasn't until you, seemingly got frustrated or lacked patience, then casted her away that she left. If she was there at your bequest, then that is why she left so easily, because you withdrew your request. Doing this left you open to everything that was ready to be heard, and you heard them. And while I understand the difficulty of what you went through, you also missed an opportunity. Being a medium, while opening you up to beings that you don't wish to be near, does offer you ability to do quite a few things, especially quite a bit of good.

You could connect loved ones who have passed on (give them the comfort of last words and knowing the other is alright), you can help lost and trapped spirits (many whom was victims who died), even assist the "damned" you felt you heard. If you are a Christian, then you understand concept of forgiveness and redemption. I guess what I am saying, I'm not saying you was wrong in what you did, only that there was an opportunity that you just wasn't prepared for. In addition, the vibe you feel may feel strange and give you the ebbeejebees, what may be the issue is your perception of this feeling. Love and fear are the same biologically, what differentiates it is your perception of the physiological responses. Same too with your intuitional vibe. You know you are feeling something, you just don't know what it is you are feeling, it is that unknown you was uncomfortable.

I don't to want attack your beliefs, as I said before, you have a right to them, but I honestly don't think you was suddenly protected by your god. What you did was cast a "spell" of intent, one that basically turned you off. The "doorway" within you was shut and then locked. You was able to do this because it was your will. I can't say that you didn't have help doing it, but it was you that did that.

And while there are certainly things for you to be concerned about, you let your fear direct your decisions. It doesn't mean you was wrong, no one can judge you for what you did, just that now you have an opportunity to learn from what you did and attempt to understand what it was. Because with the knowledge you could posses, your fear of it all can evaporate. If I step inside the realm of Christianity and depending on your views, many would say that the gifts we have (born with) are the gifts from "god". What you had was a gift, and perhaps there was a purpose to it. Perhaps it isn't "gods" will for you to shun your gift, cursed as you think it is, but consider what you can do with it, once you have control over it, and understand it fully.

Just food for thought.

Yeah if Belphegore possessed you neither of you would be doing much of anything.In that regards some demons just fail miserably at being even remotely imposing or scary.You can't even deal with Phenex without having him trail off in nonsensical reminiscing and eccentric tales.It doesn't matter what you tell him to do , it will somehow remind him of a funny time he is far too willing to elaborate about.

Now in regards to these vibes I can assure you there is a significant difference between the typical vibes and my own.These "aura poisonings" are not directly harmful unlike the energy I give off.Generally even when I go to unfamiliar places I end up getting accused of being possessed or something to that extent.I can't blame people for assuming that as a lot of strange reactions other than my negative vibes tend to surface.On a few occasions people have made accusations that were right to the letter accurate but obviously I dismiss and ridicule them for such a statement.

This more literal "aura poisoning" I exude has caused me grave issues regarding people I form some manner of bond with as I know even though I desire to be around them I am in fact slowly killing them and reached that critical point on numerous occasions.I couldn't tell you how many times I've been faced with losing things I cared about because of this.I even go so far as to strictly regulate the levels of interaction I allow with people that mean anything to me.My problem is something I cannot simply be rid of as I am the sole source of this phenomena.Another point worth mentioning is my energy effects not just physical beings but spiritual ones as well.

Stukov wrote:You know I don't want to take away from your experiences, your beliefs, or how you think about what happened to you, but I have a different take that I think is worth considering.

It sounds as though you was a "medium" for spirits. Basically you are able to be a conduit that allows others to communicate with you and others on this side of the veil. Also, Lauren, as you called her, regardless of who she was, she was basically blocking the others from coming through by being the one using you. The cock-block of the spirit world. There many motivations as to why she would do this, but I'm partially inclined to think she did it at your request for the purpose of allowing you to grow up and slowly deal with your ability.

It wasn't until you, seemingly got frustrated or lacked patience, then casted her away that she left. If she was there at your bequest, then that is why she left so easily, because you withdrew your request. Doing this left you open to everything that was ready to be heard, and you heard them. And while I understand the difficulty of what you went through, you also missed an opportunity. Being a medium, while opening you up to beings that you don't wish to be near, does offer you ability to do quite a few things, especially quite a bit of good.

You could connect loved ones who have passed on (give them the comfort of last words and knowing the other is alright), you can help lost and trapped spirits (many whom was victims who died), even assist the "damned" you felt you heard. If you are a Christian, then you understand concept of forgiveness and redemption. I guess what I am saying, I'm not saying you was wrong in what you did, only that there was an opportunity that you just wasn't prepared for. In addition, the vibe you feel may feel strange and give you the ebbeejebees, what may be the issue is your perception of this feeling. Love and fear are the same biologically, what differentiates it is your perception of the physiological responses. Same too with your intuitional vibe. You know you are feeling something, you just don't know what it is you are feeling, it is that unknown you was uncomfortable.

I don't to want attack your beliefs, as I said before, you have a right to them, but I honestly don't think you was suddenly protected by your god. What you did was cast a "spell" of intent, one that basically turned you off. The "doorway" within you was shut and then locked. You was able to do this because it was your will. I can't say that you didn't have help doing it, but it was you that did that.

And while there are certainly things for you to be concerned about, you let your fear direct your decisions. It doesn't mean you was wrong, no one can judge you for what you did, just that now you have an opportunity to learn from what you did and attempt to understand what it was. Because with the knowledge you could posses, your fear of it all can evaporate. If I step inside the realm of Christianity and depending on your views, many would say that the gifts we have (born with) are the gifts from "god". What you had was a gift, and perhaps there was a purpose to it. Perhaps it isn't "gods" will for you to shun your gift, cursed as you think it is, but consider what you can do with it, once you have control over it, and understand it fully.

Just food for thought.

I really enjoyed reading your response. It did give me things to ponder. I could very well be a medium or sorts... or at least, was a medium of sorts. Thank you for responding.
The thing I didn't fully explain in my story were the fallen angels. The things they said to me were disturbing, and they still frighten me today.

That night I was doing inventory in the cooler, I met what felt like hundreds of fallen angels. The one with the English accent spoke first. I remember him the most because he dislocated my shoulder when he made me flip over a six wheeled cart with over 100+ lbs of meat. And I'm not a very strong individual. He was angry. He wanted me to know he was going to hell because he betrayed god. He didn't give me a chance to speak, the moment I tried he bit hard on my tongue. He told me he was jealous that he wasn't human like me. That we humans are the favorite of all creation. That he wanted the gift of forgiveness, but the angels weren't given that option. Jesus died for man, so if an angel sinned, his life was forfeit, cast down to earth until the end of time, and then thrown into the fiery pits of hell. Some of the demons would ask me if I could forgive them, I had to tell them no, I wasn't able to. I tear up thinking about the things they said. How they wished they were saved like me, that they wish they were human so that they would have a second chance. They asked me to forgive them and to save them, but I knew very damn well, I wasn't able to, and... I just lost it. I was a Christian man, going to bible college, so that one day I would travel over seas to spread the gospel all over the world... but when I saw something I couldn't save... what could I do? What could I think? My life, crashed, that single day. I don't even give this justice. I never want to live that day again. It was the worst day of my life.

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You may be right. I might have very well cast that spell that day. I gave it my all to close that door inside me, wither by god or by me, it became shut.
Lauren may have very well protected me. Whoever, or whatever she was, she could have all along had good intentions for me.

Even if they weren't demons, and they were spirits, then maybe I could have helped them; but I fucked myself over by closing the door. This gift I was given I screwed over because I lacked patience. And if there was a way to reopen the veil... to be honest, I'm too scared. I really honest to god am scared. What if it happens all over again? What if Lauren never comes back to help me cock-block the spirit world. So many doubts...

I remember how hard Lauren tried to call me... when I was praying and burning that sacrifice. Maybe she was trying to tell me something and I pushed her away. And if that's true, why didn't she just tell me all the long I was a medium! Why wouldn't she be honest with me? I'm just so confused..... I feel like she could have explained everything to me.
Maybe she couldn't. Maybe, being skeptical like I am, I wouldn't have believed her anyways. Maybe she really did the best she could.
Hell if I really know.

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Like I mentioned before. Thank you.

You actually took it better than I expected. That shows you have an open mind and you shouldn't be worried about having lost it forever. I myself had a connection to my own spirit that made me wise beyond my years and I shut down that connection so that I could experience the human experience the way most people do, since then I have been able to reconnect and more. So have no doubts that when you try once again it is possible, the only thing is your ability may come back exactly the same or completely different.

Now as to what you saw and felt in the cooler. The first way to try to explain it is that there are boxes of different types beyond the veil. Each of these boxes has their own rules, often times their own rule giver, and those to enforce the rules. When you opened up, based on your own expectations, even your own studies in christianity , Judaism, and Islam - all these influence what box you entered. Even those spirits you encountered shared the same view as you did. This doesn't mean that what you believe is wrong, only that it is the truth only for that box and there are more boxes. If you believed in Hinduism, you would have seen that box, as your belief guided your journey.

The reason I point this out is that there is more beyond the veil than just what you witnessed and you have control over what it is. In that box those entities broke the rule of the box and are suffering the agreed consequences. However, this doesn't mean they can't go to another box, unless they are being trapped against their will. There are many places that they can go and not be miserable, places that would even let them incarnate as human. I think it is best to exist without any of these boxes, but some need them. I guess you could think of it as these spirits wanted in a special club, but they violated the rules of the club and are banned for eternity. You prob can't get them in the club, but you can show them they don't have to wait in the alley out back, but find a new one.

But before that you have to let go of your fear. You ever see starwars? You know about how yoda says that fear leads to the darkside? Well it kinda does, it traps you. However I will wait to say more depending on if you wish me to. And Lauren was operating under rules, she may have wanted to tell you, but it was for you to discover, not for her to tell you.

A very interesting topic was brought up today at church about spiritual gifts. Ironic, but I hardly find this coincidental.

In the Christian Faith, we believe that everyone has god given gifts, much like as you mentioned above. Generally, we associate a person's skills, abilities, or talents as their god given "gifts". However, of the course of the bible, you will see that these gifts aren't just limited to a person's potential or skills. Many of the apostles were given wisdom and insight. Some where even given the abilities to speak in tongues. Various prophets and apostles were given powers to heal the sick.

Even if you take the Christian Faith out of the equation, it is hard for me not to believe that this is a god given gift. If the master of the universe created me, then surely he is aware that I was either born with these gifts, or had the potential to gain these gifts under the right circumstances.

I see the signs, coincidental or not. Whether it's god's plan or not.

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If I ever do decide to return to my Spiritual gift, I would have to take it carefully. If I manage to reopen the veil, I understand the risks involved may be grave. Maybe I might find help here, maybe I might find help elsewhere, or maybe I might be the only one able to help myself. All I can do now is pray and search through my Gnosis. I have no choice but to attempt to find the right answer. I can only stay vigilant in my search for the right answer. Assuming there even is a right answer. I am shooting off into the dark, but I have faith in an answer. I have faith that I will find what I need. Maybe this site is more of a blessing than I thought it would be.

Understood, be aware that I've not seen anyone who has shut themselves off instantly, ever come back on instantly - unless a traumatic event occurs. If you decide you want to open up again it should not be instaneously and you will be able to adjust over time with it.

On the rest of it, you must decide for yourself what you want and what you think is right. No on here can make that decision for you, all we can do is provide our perceptions and experiences. If you do decide to walk that path again, I would recommend keeping a open mind and allowing yourself to see the bigger picture. There is nothing wrong with Christianity, but there is a larger "world" out there. You can take your beliefs with you and still incorporate what other things you can learn. In addition you will probably learn the similarities between things when you get to the basic level and see the divisions that exist are rather superficial, doing this allows you to have greater compassion for those who don't believe exactly as you do.

Also, keep an iron will. You have your beliefs and they can help guide you, but try not to sound "preachy" from the Christian point of view, but offer the foundation of what needs to be expressed. I'm not saying you have ever done this or will. An example would be (if you are outside the box of Christianity) when speaking to someone instead of saying "Jesus Christ, the son of god died for your sins so you could be forgiven, if you believe in him you will be saved", you could speak to fundamental of this is that forgiveness - forgiving yourself - forgiving others - allows one to free themselves of the guilt and torment over the things they have done; by believing that salvation from torment is possible they can learn to resurrect themselves their true selves, shattering the chains that bind them so that they can embrace the ideas and values that they find gives life meaning. Or something like that, something universal, hell any lesson you have learned from Christianity or elsewhere in your life. Just understand the root and function of such a things then learn how to apply it so the person getting the advice and understand and accept the wisdom you speak. Get what I'm saying?